The baiting Room

[sanjikun]

It's probably Weevil. He has to show up soon, given that Bakkin was part of Rox, and Weevil was said to be "like a Young Whitebeard".

Weevil is same age as Whitebeard was during Garp vs. Rox.

 

[stealthblack]

roger and garp beating rox is bullsht.

whitebeard alone was on par with roger, and rox,BM,shiki,capatin john,kaidou would own garp together.

 

[Paperchampion23]

It's probably Weevil. He has to show up soon, given that Bakkin was part of Rox, and Weevil was said to be "like a Young Whitebeard".

Weevil is same age as Whitebeard was during Garp vs. Rox.

If we are talking about what YP hyped in relation to Chapter 982, this doesn't make sense, as the person on the ship there clearly wouldn't be Weevil.

Now as for the silhouette in the ocean that Marco saw, that's as good as anyones guess.

 

[Finalbeta]

roger and garp beating rox is bullsht.

whitebeard alone was on par with roger, and rox,BM,shiki,capatin john,kaidou would own garp together.

Amd Whitebeard might even had been slightly stronger than Roger since he was WSM

Worst case Roger was also WSM, but nothing states so

 

[T.D.A]

I don't trust Viz at 100% either.

Why not? The most Stephen Paul does wrong is use weird American English slang, he doesn't completely mess up the translation like fan scans do.

 

[MarineHQ]

First of, there was a looting contest. Oda knew he had no conceivable way to show how the WBP would survive a true fight with the RP, so he had to off panel it. By the state of the island it's clear there was no serious fighting going on there. WB, someone who can wipe out islands was fighting his equal there and no damage had been done. WB raising his voice a bit, caused the seas and islands to tilt later on.
WB and Roger both state that the other should drop all of his valuables and leave

Spoiler

The Roger Pirates say that they are gonna take everything the WBP got

Spoiler

Ray himself says that the attempt to pillage each other became a gift exchange

Spoiler

All of it was off panel and not serious. Ray looked like he didn't even participate in it. There isn't a scratch on him.



Rayleigh has much more hype than Chinjao lmao. Miss me with that.


He is the closest confidant to Roger, a man always depicted next to Roger

Spoiler

Oden himself saw it fit to mention Ray and his title.

While all the crew members, Gaban included, refer to Roger as captain Roger

Spoiler

Ray simply calls him Roger

Spoiler

Rayleigh has ample hype from Oda and others, as well as feats.
Garp says that taking on Ray can cost them a lot of men and calls him a legend similar to WB

Spoiler

The same Garp that wasn't in the slightest concerned about the alliance between Kaido and Linlin, expresses concern about taking on Rayleigh.

In his old age, Rayleigh, who hadn't picked up a sword in a long time

Spoiler

and was just drinking, gambling, shacking chicks and robbing people, stopped an Admiral in his tracks

Spoiler

and implied that in his prime he could have successfully helped the strawhats and dealt with Kizaru at the same time

Spoiler

and Kizaru is the man who volunteered himself to stop 2 Yonko

Spoiler

and was only stopped by Akainu due to the unknown military force in Wano. I stress again Wano, meaning Kizaru was gonna go to Wano, not somewhere along the way but Wano.
The same Kizaru says the navy needs preparations to even attempt to catch Rayleigh

Spoiler

His fight with Kizaru showed incredible feats even in his old age

Extremely good COO and speed, as he was able to battle Kizaru in cqc without anyone gaining a particular advantage

Spoiler

The fanfiction about Ray cutting Kizaru when Kizaru went to attack the SH is exactly that, a fanfic. It came from when the two clashed blades <click> . That is the most logical conclusion based on multiple factors.
> The position of the cut, i.e the exact blade direction.
> The timing it was shown, immediately after the clash of blades occurs
> No blood being shown around Kizaru prior to that, and Oda always shows blood <click> <click>
> WB disturbing Kizaru without cutting him when Kizaru was turning into light in MF
> The fact that barrier haki lets you extend the range of your weapon <click> , and for a haki master like Ray it shouldn't be a problem

Ray has his haki compared to a prime Yonko

Spoiler

Oda himself when asked about Shanks' CoC and only Shanks' CoC saw it fit to mention Rayleigh.


He possesses both forms of advanced COA

Spoiler

Extremely good COO, as demonstrated in his battle against Kizaru, and the fact that he was able to sense how many animals present at the island were stronger than Luffy

Spoiler

Rayleigh's infamy dwarfs that of the Yonko and Admirals, let alone their subordinates
Sanji who knows about Rayleigh, had no idea what an Admiral was in the Navy

Spoiler

Nami, who knows of him had no clue who the yonko are

Spoiler

Marine Officers were confused when Akainu and Sengoku were talking about Oden

Spoiler

Akainu himself only mentions him being a WB commander.

Yet Rayleigh is a pirate everyone knows of, he is even mentioned in books

Spoiler

A man called legend by Garp, similar to WB

Spoiler

A man revered as a living legend by everyone

Spoiler

Ray is a man whom Roger calls partner

Spoiler

He is the first mate of the PK

Spoiler

Jimbei mentions that for a man who would be a member of the PK's crew, a mere Yonko is nothing

Spoiler

Jimbei's reaction to Linlin above vs Jimbei's reaction to Rayleigh

Spoiler

I don't care whose fan you are.



Rayleigh is on the same level as the captains, and even dwarfs them in infamy and reputation.​

Repost this on the threads used to downplay Prime Rayleigh.

This dude has hype and feats unparalleled to other Top Tiers.

 

[Kromage911]

I feel like Stephen must get the scans like 4-5 days before the release

 

[Paperchampion23]

roger and garp beating rox is bullsht.

whitebeard alone was on par with roger, and rox,BM,shiki,capatin john,kaidou would own garp together.

40 years ago, none of those people outside of Rocks were in their prime. Roger and Garp were.

We also don't know if WB betrayed Rocks, considering WB's relationship with Roger after, signs point to him not really fighting Roger/Garp in God Valley. Knowing what kind of person WB even is, it totally clashes with literally every other person in Rocks. Rocks, Kaido, BM and even Shiki all have some sort of destruction agenda, WB clearly doesn't.

I wouldn't shit on an event before actually seeing it. It was loosely teased in 1 panel, we need to wait for the inevitable Rocks flashback.

 

[T.D.A]

I feel like Stephen must get the scans like 4-5 days before the release

Obviously, may be more than 4-5 days too.

 

[Paperchampion23]

I feel like Stephen must get the scans like 4-5 days before the release

He does. There have been leaks (twice in fact), where we get the legitimate cover page w/ Stephen's translations nearly a week before the chapter is supposed to release.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

First of, there was a looting contest. Oda knew he had no conceivable way to show how the WBP would survive a true fight with the RP, so he had to off panel it. By the state of the island it's clear there was no serious fighting going on there. WB, someone who can wipe out islands was fighting his equal there and no damage had been done. WB raising his voice a bit, caused the seas and islands to tilt later on.
WB and Roger both state that the other should drop all of his valuables and leave

Spoiler

The Roger Pirates say that they are gonna take everything the WBP got

Spoiler

Ray himself says that the attempt to pillage each other became a gift exchange

Spoiler

All of it was off panel and not serious. Ray looked like he didn't even participate in it. There isn't a scratch on him.



Rayleigh has much more hype than Chinjao lmao. Miss me with that.


He is the closest confidant to Roger, a man always depicted next to Roger

Spoiler

Oden himself saw it fit to mention Ray and his title.

While all the crew members, Gaban included, refer to Roger as captain Roger

Spoiler

Ray simply calls him Roger

Spoiler

Rayleigh has ample hype from Oda and others, as well as feats.
Garp says that taking on Ray can cost them a lot of men and calls him a legend similar to WB

Spoiler

The same Garp that wasn't in the slightest concerned about the alliance between Kaido and Linlin, expresses concern about taking on Rayleigh.

In his old age, Rayleigh, who hadn't picked up a sword in a long time

Spoiler

and was just drinking, gambling, shacking chicks and robbing people, stopped an Admiral in his tracks

Spoiler

and implied that in his prime he could have successfully helped the strawhats and dealt with Kizaru at the same time

Spoiler

and Kizaru is the man who volunteered himself to stop 2 Yonko

Spoiler

and was only stopped by Akainu due to the unknown military force in Wano. I stress again Wano, meaning Kizaru was gonna go to Wano, not somewhere along the way but Wano.
The same Kizaru says the navy needs preparations to even attempt to catch Rayleigh

Spoiler

His fight with Kizaru showed incredible feats even in his old age

Extremely good COO and speed, as he was able to battle Kizaru in cqc without anyone gaining a particular advantage

Spoiler

The fanfiction about Ray cutting Kizaru when Kizaru went to attack the SH is exactly that, a fanfic. It came from when the two clashed blades <click> . That is the most logical conclusion based on multiple factors.
> The position of the cut, i.e the exact blade direction.
> The timing it was shown, immediately after the clash of blades occurs
> No blood being shown around Kizaru prior to that, and Oda always shows blood <click> <click>
> WB disturbing Kizaru without cutting him when Kizaru was turning into light in MF
> The fact that barrier haki lets you extend the range of your weapon <click> , and for a haki master like Ray it shouldn't be a problem

Ray has his haki compared to a prime Yonko

Spoiler

Oda himself when asked about Shanks' CoC and only Shanks' CoC saw it fit to mention Rayleigh.


He possesses both forms of advanced COA

Spoiler

Extremely good COO, as demonstrated in his battle against Kizaru, and the fact that he was able to sense how many animals present at the island were stronger than Luffy

Spoiler

Rayleigh's infamy dwarfs that of the Yonko and Admirals, let alone their subordinates
Sanji who knows about Rayleigh, had no idea what an Admiral was in the Navy

Spoiler

Nami, who knows of him had no clue who the yonko are

Spoiler

Marine Officers were confused when Akainu and Sengoku were talking about Oden

Spoiler

Akainu himself only mentions him being a WB commander.

Yet Rayleigh is a pirate everyone knows of, he is even mentioned in books

Spoiler

A man called legend by Garp, similar to WB

Spoiler

A man revered as a living legend by everyone

Spoiler

Ray is a man whom Roger calls partner

Spoiler

He is the first mate of the PK

Spoiler

Jimbei mentions that for a man who would be a member of the PK's crew, a mere Yonko is nothing

Spoiler

Jimbei's reaction to Linlin above vs Jimbei's reaction to Rayleigh

Spoiler

I don't care whose fan you are.



Rayleigh is on the same level as the captains, and even dwarfs them in infamy and reputation.​

do a similar analysis on scooper pls
am sure there's a lot of gems in there

 

[Formerly Seth]

I just wanna see Smoothie do something useful since Oda has been memeing the fuck outta her

Too many chauvinists work around him. Don't be surprised if Boa loses to Koby

 

[Jodie]

Why not? The most Stephen Paul does wrong is use weird American English slang, he doesn't completely mess up the translation like fan scans do.

I wish he didnt translate names like Nekomamushi, Inuarashi and dont use Zolo.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Roger - High Top Tier
Rayleigh - Mid Top Tier
Gaban - Low Top Tier

I'd expect gap between Ray/Gaban to be similar to your avg gap between RH/LH, Marco/Joz, King/Queen, Kata/Smoothie, Ben/Roo etc. So a sub tier gap is fair, I presume?

Nothing to do with Sanji, so I don't understand the pre conceived insecurity? Scopper is not Sanji's parallel, he's simply Roger's left hand man. No more or less.

Gaban was also the only Roger Pirate to receive significant dialogue and panel time outside of Roger Pirates we know or have witnessed already in present timeline.

Literally the ONLY one.

If you think Oda wasted good chunk of panel time and dialogues on him (in a tightly packed, fast pace flashback) to build some irrelevant fodder character, randomly, seriously get help lol.

Crocus as well.

 

[Hades]

actually the other ones are iffy
the ones with roger and joyboy are stated directly in the story
you can argue the rest
but not the first two.

well Buggy commented that seeing Luffy reminds him of Shanks and not once but twice....once in Buggy arc and once in Impel down....
people forgot Dragon parallel.....

anyways going by the current trend Rayleigh is a parallel of most of the humans in the verse....he has two eyes just like other humans, two hands just like other humans except few () and same for two legs....:yasu:

 

[Kromage911]

Obviously, may be more than 4-5 days too.

Yup, just to clear things up. Does he get to interact with Oda or only his editors in your opinion?

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

I wish he didnt translate names like Nekomamushi, Inuarashi and dont use Zolo.

whats wrong with zolo

Post automatically merged: Aug 5, 2020

well Buggy commented that seeing Luffy reminds him of Shanks and not once but twice....once in Buggy arc and once in Impel down....
people forgot Dragon parallel.....

anyways going by the current trend Rayleigh is a parallel of most of the humans in the verse....he has two eyes just like other humans, two hands just like other humans except few () and same for two legs....:yasu:

you are right
I just think those two are more accurate
in terms of goals, I would say luffy is a far cry from shanks or garp.

 

[SinOfGreed]

whats wrong with zolo

His bounty poster says 'RORONOA ZORO' so Zolo just looks and sounds dumb lol

 

[Jackteo]

My man used hairy calves as a parallel

So scars > hairy calves? Why?

 

[Formerly Seth]

whats wrong with zolo

Post automatically merged: Aug 5, 2020

you are right
I just think those two are more accurate
in terms of goals, I would say luffy is a far cry from shanks or garp.

People can't turn Zoro into words that would mean that he is a loser. An example is your nickname. So whenever someone sees Viz translations for Zoro they are like:
.