Speculations The calamities will be defeated by the scabbards
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if zoro take on king 1 vs 1 and managed to beat him. shiryu or any other yonko won't cause him more trouble. same applied to sanji to queen. and kaido to luffy.even rayleigh or gabban cannot beat oden in 3 days battle. same like roger to whitebeard
if luffy beat kaido in 1 vs 1 in square battle then it will be nightmare for every single yonko out there. because nobody have accomplished that.even roger need garp to beat xebec. yonko isn't shichibukai. wb beat the crap out of croc way before luffy did that. and moria get slaughtered by kaido long time before luffy beat him.aint nobody beat big mom or kaido in 1 vs 1 before. they need to sent armies to make it that happen
that equation not perfectly applied in new world. that was from timeskip. luffy beat decken and hody. sanji shares with jinbe. law beat vergo and luffy take on Caesar. sabo and law fight fujitora, law get trebol and kyros got diamante. sanji didn't even fight in WCI. and zoro only get gifters so far in wano.
scabbard ain't warm up. you can't call 5 days of Neko or inu fighting jack a warm up. they could be warm up for kaido or bm. but not for calamities
if luffy beat kaido in 1 vs 1 in square battle then it will be nightmare for every single yonko out there. because nobody have accomplished that.even roger need garp to beat xebec. yonko isn't shichibukai. wb beat the crap out of croc way before luffy did that. and moria get slaughtered by kaido long time before luffy beat him.aint nobody beat big mom or kaido in 1 vs 1 before. they need to sent armies to make it that happen
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that equation not perfectly applied in new world. that was from timeskip. luffy beat decken and hody. sanji shares with jinbe. law beat vergo and luffy take on Caesar. sabo and law fight fujitora, law get trebol and kyros got diamante. sanji didn't even fight in WCI. and zoro only get gifters so far in wano.
scabbard ain't warm up. you can't call 5 days of Neko or inu fighting jack a warm up. they could be warm up for kaido or bm. but not for calamities
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arguably Neko and inu aren't the strongest among scabbard. there still denjiro and ashura. ppl like izo kinemon kawamatsu can put good team works too.if inu or Neko unleash their shulong. I wont be suprise if only need 1 of them to handle jack.
after all. they have experience on fight calamities unlike zoro or sanji(luffy have experience on fighting yonko too so he can take a measure and learn from his old mistake) and scabbards are perfectly have their own rights and reason to beat them after waiting for 20 years.
scabbards are no joke.wano are known for their strong forces of samurai since decades ago. even reason akainu not send forces to involve in wano is because ppl like scabbards lol.
if they are lost they are lost by kaido or bm.two of them will eat every single scabbard at same time. but not by calamities. calamities only 3 and scabbards are 9.and we know 20 years ago they are not just get easily beaten not until oden get fckd by kaido.
after all. they have experience on fight calamities unlike zoro or sanji(luffy have experience on fighting yonko too so he can take a measure and learn from his old mistake) and scabbards are perfectly have their own rights and reason to beat them after waiting for 20 years.
scabbards are no joke.wano are known for their strong forces of samurai since decades ago. even reason akainu not send forces to involve in wano is because ppl like scabbards lol.
if they are lost they are lost by kaido or bm.two of them will eat every single scabbard at same time. but not by calamities. calamities only 3 and scabbards are 9.and we know 20 years ago they are not just get easily beaten not until oden get fckd by kaido.
then way law fight vergo not zoro at PH ? or why luffy take on decken and hody not share with zoro?
even at wano law already take on hawkin while zoro got gifter.
zoro or sanji just member while ppl like law kid luffy or kin are leader of ally. every leader demands a big shot. and leader come first.
just like kyros demands Diamante or law demands vergo trebol and dofla.
even at wano law already take on hawkin while zoro got gifter.
zoro or sanji just member while ppl like law kid luffy or kin are leader of ally. every leader demands a big shot. and leader come first.
just like kyros demands Diamante or law demands vergo trebol and dofla.
Actually I think the scabbards starting the war is for them to fail and see the straw hats save the day when all seems lost.
I do think Inu and Neko have the bigger chance to defeat Jack but I still feel like Queen and King are meant for Sanji and Zoro.
They might fight other people too, it's a war after all. But the last ones standing will be Kaido, King and Queen on the villain side and Luffy, Yamato, Zoro and Sanji on the alliance side.
I do think Inu and Neko have the bigger chance to defeat Jack but I still feel like Queen and King are meant for Sanji and Zoro.
They might fight other people too, it's a war after all. But the last ones standing will be Kaido, King and Queen on the villain side and Luffy, Yamato, Zoro and Sanji on the alliance side.
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Vergo is the strongest villain in PH. Beside 2nd and 3rd strongest villain in PH, Caesar and Monet don't have rivalry like Kaku and Jyabura, Mr1 and Mr2 also with King and Queen.
There's no also rivalry between Hody and Decken.
Mr1 and Mr2 have rivalry and both of them are underling of main antagonists of Alabasta, Crocodile
Same with Kaku and Jyabura under Lucci.
King and Queen under Kaido.
King and Queen would fight Zoro and Sanji based on history of Mr1 and Mr2, Kaku and Jyabura who have rivalry with each other and they're underlings under main antagonist. Similar to King and Queen they have rivalry and they're underlings under Kaido.
There's no also rivalry between Hody and Decken.
Mr1 and Mr2 have rivalry and both of them are underling of main antagonists of Alabasta, Crocodile
Same with Kaku and Jyabura under Lucci.
King and Queen under Kaido.
King and Queen would fight Zoro and Sanji based on history of Mr1 and Mr2, Kaku and Jyabura who have rivalry with each other and they're underlings under main antagonist. Similar to King and Queen they have rivalry and they're underlings under Kaido.
don't use your pre ts equation to new world saga where sh is in the part of alliance. it's irrelevant. difference approach different method.
who care vergo strongest or second. the fact is zoro doesn't get fight either vergo or Caesar instead get monet shared with tashigi. means your formula doesn't apply in every arc right?
if shanks was allied wb in mf. the captains will get the Marine top antagonist first. not the members. that is common sense. and that's applied to pirate samurai alliance.
if zoro solo king. and sanji beat queen then SH is literally 1 step above of yonko. because its top fighter greater than Yonko top commander. which is ridiculous since 2 weeks ago their captain have death match against YC1 and not even rayleigh besting oden in 3 days fight.
so what next after solo Yonko top commander? zoro and Sanji solo shanks and big mom?
who care vergo strongest or second. the fact is zoro doesn't get fight either vergo or Caesar instead get monet shared with tashigi. means your formula doesn't apply in every arc right?
if shanks was allied wb in mf. the captains will get the Marine top antagonist first. not the members. that is common sense. and that's applied to pirate samurai alliance.
if zoro solo king. and sanji beat queen then SH is literally 1 step above of yonko. because its top fighter greater than Yonko top commander. which is ridiculous since 2 weeks ago their captain have death match against YC1 and not even rayleigh besting oden in 3 days fight.
so what next after solo Yonko top commander? zoro and Sanji solo shanks and big mom?
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King or queen. but with help. they can share it with scabbards. or other if scabbard get flipped by kaido. but I doubt it. one of them must deliver at least meaningfull blow that useful to the victory like law deliver gamma knife to doffy before down.
the reason inu or neko can't beat Jack was because they are too stupid to choose not to work together.
the reason inu or neko can't beat Jack was because they are too stupid to choose not to work together.
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That's possible but in one of previous interview, once Wano is over it's said that the end of One Piece would be in sight.
One Piece is also almost over so I think Zoro would fight King so he can power up quickly to defeat Mihawk.
Sanji in RS also showed superior dominance over Page One without DJ and CoA. RS with DJ and CoA should be reserved for Queen imo.
It would also cheapen Zoro and Sanji 2 years training if they need help since we haven't seen what they learnt during TS. I think they need help if they have shown anything what they learnt during TS and with that they're still weak compared to YC.
One Piece is also almost over so I think Zoro would fight King so he can power up quickly to defeat Mihawk.
Sanji in RS also showed superior dominance over Page One without DJ and CoA. RS with DJ and CoA should be reserved for Queen imo.
It would also cheapen Zoro and Sanji 2 years training if they need help since we haven't seen what they learnt during TS. I think they need help if they have shown anything what they learnt during TS and with that they're still weak compared to YC.
yeah the end of op could be near. but near for them is equal 6-7 years more for us.
they have to be underdog against bb crew or whoever they face later. so that the fight will be so intense to follows.
they can prove their training time to time. even against fellow supernova like hawkin or drake. or another tobbi roppo first.
there are the ladder to climb. luffy already get through that. he don't just face yonko. he face doffy then cracker then katakuri then kaido. even with the ladder he still get one shot and his 2 years training doesn't do much.
they have to be underdog against bb crew or whoever they face later. so that the fight will be so intense to follows.
they can prove their training time to time. even against fellow supernova like hawkin or drake. or another tobbi roppo first.
there are the ladder to climb. luffy already get through that. he don't just face yonko. he face doffy then cracker then katakuri then kaido. even with the ladder he still get one shot and his 2 years training doesn't do much.
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I think base Sanji did well against Drake. RS Sanji without DJ nd CoA showed dominance over Page One. Zoro also did well beat Killer in 1 vs 2 situation.
I think if they show the fruit of their training it should be against opponents who are stronger than them like Luffy vs Katakuri. AT the start Katakuri is way stronger than Luffy and once Luffy showed the fruit of his training FS+Snakeman, Luffy managed to beat Katakuri.
Same thing should happen with Zoro and Kanji imo. King and Queen could push Zoro and Sanji to their limit to the point they have to show the result of their TS training.
For Zoro (Mihawk training+Enma training).
For Sanji (Ivankov training+RS full power with DJ and CoA).
I think if they show the fruit of their training it should be against opponents who are stronger than them like Luffy vs Katakuri. AT the start Katakuri is way stronger than Luffy and once Luffy showed the fruit of his training FS+Snakeman, Luffy managed to beat Katakuri.
Same thing should happen with Zoro and Kanji imo. King and Queen could push Zoro and Sanji to their limit to the point they have to show the result of their TS training.
For Zoro (Mihawk training+Enma training).
For Sanji (Ivankov training+RS full power with DJ and CoA).
luffy against cracker and katakuri is different because they fight in isolate battleground and take on over 10 hours.
while sanji nor zoro doesn't fight in isolate battleground. they will be on the middle of war.
sanji get neg diffed by doflamingo. and zoro down by accidental hit by killer. luffy get same stab and keep continue the fight till hour again katakuri or hody. they are perform good and sometimes they perform bad.
while sanji nor zoro doesn't fight in isolate battleground. they will be on the middle of war.
sanji get neg diffed by doflamingo. and zoro down by accidental hit by killer. luffy get same stab and keep continue the fight till hour again katakuri or hody. they are perform good and sometimes they perform bad.
No.
Every Scabbard will have their moment, to steal the WCI phrase, but they are still going to be playing second fiddle to the Strawhats. That's why the Strawhats are here, because they're the main players in the future war which will be able to defeat Kaido, like Oden said.
At the very most Calamity wise Inu and Neko are taking Jack, because Oda actually focused on the hatred between them and we know that the Minks can go Super Su Long. And maybe the TR are taken out by a joint effort of Strawhat and Scabbard.
Every Scabbard will have their moment, to steal the WCI phrase, but they are still going to be playing second fiddle to the Strawhats. That's why the Strawhats are here, because they're the main players in the future war which will be able to defeat Kaido, like Oden said.
At the very most Calamity wise Inu and Neko are taking Jack, because Oda actually focused on the hatred between them and we know that the Minks can go Super Su Long. And maybe the TR are taken out by a joint effort of Strawhat and Scabbard.