Questions & Mysteries The end really feels close now

#61
Why are we acting like the emperors and admirals are all arc material though? You have Blackbeard, and maybe Sakazuki as arc villains material and that's pretty much it. Oda wants the Strawhats to go the island that only the PK has been to(lodestar/Laughtale) after Elbaf, so The plotlines of the rest are going to be resolved in a final war or whatever, probably with anyone not connected to goofy getting little focus

like, 2032 or some shit seems right in my mind. Idk though, maybe Oda taking breaks to the OPLA might change that

I didn't say that all Admirals/Emperors are arc material, on the contrary i reduced their screentime and gave each one an average of 5 chapters TOTAL screentime by the time the manga ends which is next to impossible if you ask me.
 
#63
The only way the series will end in the next 150 chapters (5-6 years) is if Oda decides to do it with battle royal style and throw all the Emperors and the Navy into battle at once to get the OP.
Oda did say we are heading into a battle royale iirc.

- Lodestar: Sakazuki
- Laugh Tale: Teach
- Mariejoa: Imu
See, my view is that it’s all part of one arc that is the Final War. I honestly think Elbaph could be the second to last arc right now. I see Lodestar as a short pitstop. Several locations will be visited, and many events related to other factions will be happening at the same time.
 
#64
Oda did say we are heading into a battle royale iirc.



See, my view is that it’s all part of one arc that is the Final War. I honestly think Elbaph could be the second to last arc right now. I see Lodestar as a short pitstop. Several locations will be visited, and many events related to other factions will be happening at the same time.
While I can see it all being One war, I dont see Lodestar being just a pitstop.

The issue is many people want One Piece, which means people will fight over the RP's, which means only 1 or 2 groups at most are going to Laugh Tale. This suggest Lodestar must be the place where all of this is takes place. Its the only other named island and the end of GL that ordinary people can get to.

The real question is if Imu and the Revo's are involved in this, which they could be dont get me wrong. If they are, then Laugh tale is the end and whatever happens to Mariejoa/FI happens first. If they arent then thats after and realistically only Luffy and Teach are getting to LT.
 
#65
I didn't say that all Admirals/Emperors are arc material, on the contrary i reduced their screentime and gave each one an average of 5 chapters TOTAL screentime by the time the manga ends which is next to impossible if you ask me.
I was responding to
>It doesn't matter how many islands left to visit, if we keep following the SHs defeating just one enemy from the remaining groups, Emperors, Navy, WG, the series will never end.

my only point was that I don't think that model can really continue, because there aren't that many full time arc opponents left for the SHP at this point, now that they beat BM and Kaido, and have encountered Imcel and the like. I don't have any real disagreements with your post beyond that/
 
#66
Tbf though, lets say you frame it this way (not arguing order or merit Im just putting out what has been generally agreed to be Luffy's enemies):

- Lodestar: Sakazuki
- Laugh Tale: Teach
- Mariejoa: Imu

Its hard to see how each of these arcs would be anything shorter than a 100 chapters each. Again, Im playing devils advocate and assuming Oda doesnt change arc structure for the endgame, which I absolutely think he is. But even then, if Luffy has to fight 3 more actual villains in the story regardless of location (not even including whatever potential Shamrock has), it is understandable to see why anything under 300 chapters (after Elbaph) at this point is difficult to comprehend for some people.

You factor all of the above and then have to loop in the myriad of allies and that side with the crew or side with any of these other people. It gets ridiculous lol. Thats even assuming we go directly Elbaph -> Lodestar.
Isn't Elbaf itself only at <60 chapters anyway? And that's with the largest flashback in the story or close. We could maybe give it an extra 20 chapters for the SHP to run away from Imcel or whatever, but at that point we're ending with like 80 chapters. Why would an arc where the Strawhats fight Sakazuki on an island with no native population take up 100 chaps?
 
#67
Isn't Elbaf itself only at <60 chapters anyway? And that's with the largest flashback in the story or close. We could maybe give it an extra 20 chapters for the SHP to run away from Imcel or whatever, but at that point we're ending with like 80 chapters. Why would an arc where the Strawhats fight Sakazuki on an island with no native population take up 100 chaps?
Yeah but thats without potentially resolving no villain lol.

Personally the way I framed Luffy fighting Akainu isnt how I expect it to play out. I dont mean Its just the SHP vs the entire Marine force in an arc. Even then it still requires major setup.

Really the way I see it is Lodestar is really 4th RP/ Burned Scar Man focused. But this means All Yonko and Marines gather at the island and facr each other. Luffy's group ends up fighting Marines mostly while Shanks holds off Teach. CG does whatever. This results in Shanks possibly losing and Sakazuki primary military force falling to Luffy's group and Fleet. It lasts long because its ending several plotlines tied to Luffy/Shanks, Shanks/Teach, Garp/Marines, Kuzan/Marines, etc.

Even then, I still expect this idea to get thrown in the toilet for any number of reasons. I honestly have no idea how Oda will tackle everything, but I am confident Lodestar has to be central to at least the first major conflict, be it Sakazuki or not.
 
#68
You didn't say it with your own words but you implied it lol. Thanks for dennying then affirm your retard take, you just double the retardation of your post. You

Now explain why Elbaf ain't a big deal, pls just answer this, Mihawk ain't relevant in thus topic
Go back to school. Learn how to read.
 
#70
I don't think the Strawhats have any more proper "countries" to visit after Elbaf.
We don't know what has in the other islands. Maybe if they are just like Victory Island which seems to be inhabited then you must be right. But who knows maybe there is a country at Lodestar and they really can't leave the island and same at Laugh Tale.
 
#73
*click thread about to rad discussion about manga ending and narrative pace*
*read some absolute dumb shit about filler characters named attack*
*close the thread*
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