Questions & Mysteries The Grim Reaper and the possible outcome

[nik87]

meaning he came to kill zoro not to strike a bargain.

So your route is he will kill Zoro instead of striking a bargain? :saden:

 

[Mohammad211]

I think your idea is pretty cool! I have been anxiously waiting for more of Zoro's backstory for a long time.

yeah fuck zkk or any Pu its cool but give me back story

but grim reaper probably is another bullshit gag

 

[Hanners220]

yeah fuck zkk or any Pu its cool but give me back story

but grim reaper probably is another bullshit gag

I legitimately want to see ZKK, but I also think that it makes little sense for Oda to give the SHs and even less important characters these expansive backstories yet Zoro's backstory is pretty much my friend died.

 

[CbShadow]

The grim reaper is probably real but why do you stans always take this route ? we litearly see on the chapter he appears after chopper said zoro took too much damage meaning he came to kill zoro not to strike a bargain.

Kuma went to Thriller Bark to capture Luffy not strike a deal but we saw how that went.

 

[Mohammad211]

I legitimately want to see ZKK, but I also think that it makes little sense for Oda to give the SHs and even less important characters these expansive backstories yet Zoro's backstory is pretty much my friend died.

i don't care that much about zkk if it happened i will be happy if not i legit don't care it's an extra that i don't expect to happen
im a zoro fan ( im also fan of luffy and sanji ) but i will say zoro's Flashback is worst than even alot of side characters let alone other sh and it wasn't even 1 chapter and wasn't even good (Kuina flashback)

 

[Soyz]

So your route is he will kill Zoro instead of striking a bargain? :saden:

Try to kill didn't say he will, makes more sense then giving zoro a chance to live just to kill kaido, this is peak fanboyism and headcannon

 

[nik87]

Try to kill didn't say he will, makes more sense then giving zoro a chance to live just to kill kaido, this is peak fanboyism and headcannon

Kuma tried to kill him too, still gave him a chance to live by offering him hell. It wasnt fanboyism or headcanon. We know what Death comes for, offering another life is perfectly reasonable development. Unless you have an agenda.

 

[Finalbeta]

Zoro is just a great crew member, he has faith in his captain to reach his goals that is also why he is keeping following him

 

[Soyz]

Kuma tried to kill him too, still gave him a chance to live by offering him hell. It wasnt fanboyism or headcanon. We know what Death comes for, offering another life is perfectly reasonable development. Unless you have an agenda.

How is that even the same, firstly kuma tried to kill luffy and zoro stepped up to take his place meaning to kill him , kuma didn't spare zoro or helped him he was just sure he would die taking all that damage.

 

[nik87]

How is that even the same, firstly kuma tried to kill luffy and zoro stepped up to take his place meaning to kill him , kuma didn't spare zoro or helped him he was just sure he would die taking all that damage.

And Death isnt Kuma so this time you will see a different thing.

 

[Finalbeta]

Zoro doesn't fear death, he already overcame it in several occasions :cheers:

 

[Cinera]

Let's assume the grim reaper is real and not a hallucination.. what would the outcome be? I think there is a possible solution to this. Zoro and the reaper might come into some agreement. Like killing kaido and therefore getting a second chance to live. If the grim reaper is the real one, he will probably have some powers.

Maybe he can reverse the damage zoro took so he can move. A another possible solution is that zoro might give his beloved sword sandai kitetsu away to the grim reaper so he can live.
One thing for sure is that zoros journey didn't end in this arc. He has still something to do and thats ZKK my friends.


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I posted my thoughts on this in the chapter discussion thread, so I'll just quote myself:

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Chopper says that Zoro is going to receive "many times over" the damage he had sustained before from Hakai. He can scarcely imagine what state Zoro would be in afterwards, as he was already completely paralysed even before the Mink medicine. He then pleads for Zoro not to die on them.

I think what is happening is that Zoro's body is confronting certain death, and Oda chose to make this allegory explicit by having Zoro come face to face with Death itself.


I think a route that Oda can take with this confrontation is: "Zoro will conquer Death itself to become the true King of the Underworld". Here's an example narrative scenario:

The Grim Reaper's scythe will "reap" Zoro and send him to the Underworld.

There he will fight against the Lord of the Underworld (Enma). He will triumph and become the true King of the Underworld.

Zoro will then return to the land of the living, triumphant and invincible.

By triumphing over the Lord of the Underworld (Enma), he may also have forged Enma into a Black Blade as a result.

And/or by conquering Death, Zoro's body may be fully restored to peak condition.


Zoro's battle with in the Underworld may be physical (as in Zoro's body actually disappears), spiritual (Zoro's soul leaves his body) or purely mental (Zoro hallucinates all of this). (Perhaps as Zoro's soul/mind battles in the Underworld, Zoro's body feels the full effects of the double pain and damage he took).

Regardless of the form it takes, the battle will signal Zoro's struggle with and triumph over Death and harken back to the declaration Zoro made all the way back in Arlong Park:

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The Zoro who has triumphed over Death would be significantly stronger than he is now.

 

[M944]

Bump

 

[Xlaw]

Only positive outcome will be , he won't die. It look like he is already on death door..There was lots o blood around him.
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That Grim Reaper thing..I honestly didn't expected from Oda..That's so cringy.
Would have better if Zoro had flashback instead

 

[nik87]

Grim Reaper is the intro for ZKK.

 

[Fuckthis3]

it’s brook and Robin and Zoro is tripping due to the medicine

this is oda were talking about here

 

[Roo]

You act like I’m sad I’m wrong lol

set expectations low and you’ll never be disappointed

 

[Fuckthis3]

You act like I’m sad I’m wrong lol

set expectations low and you’ll never be disappointed

It not about being wrong it about realizing you was wrong it comes with consequences bruh

 

[Roo]

It not about being wrong it about realizing you was wrong it comes with consequences bruh

What consequences

 

[Fuckthis3]

What consequences

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