Questions & Mysteries The Mystery of Page One

[True God Moe]

At least read what I write so there is no unnecessary confusion...
I never said he terrorised anyone after Sanji has retreated since there is no point, he simply ain't there anymore, he saw him fly away.
You literally saw Drake and Hawkins quit on the same mission and your only reacting because PageOne quit it too...

I told you not to use headcanon and that you dont know what happened but you acted like you knew and now you are in this problem only because of yourself. You gave Sanji a victory which he never had, according to anime at least and uncertain according to manga.

They never quit the mission and Sanji didn't ran in the manga. That's your Headcannon. They still on the mission to stop him and alliance. That mission never stop.

Anime said Zoro couldn't take out Batman as well Luffy. So going by that they weaker to beat anyone then afterwards? That doesn't make sense there. It's obvious anime is non-Canon lol.

Manga doesn't assert he survived or alright if he quit as we would know by now if he went back or wasn't taken out, but didn't happen.

 

[nik87]

They never quit the mission and Sanji didn't ran in the manga. That's your Headcannon. They still on the mission to stop him and alliance. That mission never stop.

Anime said Zoro couldn't take out Batman as well Luffy. So going by that they weaker to beat anyone then afterwards? That doesn't make sense there. It's obvious anime is non-Canon lol.

Manga doesn't assert he survived or alright if he quit as we would know by now if he went back or wasn't taken out, but didn't happen.

It is not my headcanon, it is literally what anime has shown. Several days have passed and nobody has been looking for Sanji since then, they all gave up on it since it leads nowhere.
You should ask yourself what you are even expecting from that? You want Sanji to get captured or what?

 

[True God Moe]

It is not my headcanon, it is literally what anime has shown. Several days have passed and nobody has been looking for Sanji since then, they all gave up on it since it leads nowhere.
You should ask yourself what you are even expecting from that? You want Sanji to get captured or what?

No they still look for Sanji and allies. They just couldn't find them at all. They never stop doing their job.

Never said they were captured or want to be. But just saying writing in anime isn't connecting to the manga much.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

RS Sanji fought PO and didn't manage to inflict him a single scratch, not even with his best kick.

Then he flew away lol.

this is very strange, because the manga leads us to believe that page one is defeated
> sanji fights page 1, stating that he will defeat him quickly
>Sanji appears to have the upper hand against page 1
>Page 1 is never seen again. Drake is searching for Sanji.

Why would Drake be searching for Sanji and not have page one with him if page one wasn't defeated?

Hence if Sanji didn't defeat Page, someone must have imo. I guess it was probably Drake that killed Page 1 and blamed it on Sanji.

In any case, the manga makes it pretty clear that Sanji was decently stronger than Page 1, so I will assume that's true, regardless of how the fight went down in the anime. However if it turns out that Sanji didn't beat Page 1, I'd say he's at most YC4 level(a little stronger than Judge) with his raid suit on.

However that could change depending on what he does in the war. I am hopeful that Luffy will leave wano with a bonafide yonko level crew, so I think that worst case scenario for Sanji would be that Jinbei replaces him as 3rd strongest and Sanji fights Jack. However he still deserves to 1v1 a calamity imo

 

[Relapse]

Sanji is going to Dino page 1 cookbook after this victory :cheers:

 

[True God Moe]

this is very strange, because the manga leads us to believe that page one is defeated
> sanji fights page 1, stating that he will defeat him quickly
>Sanji appears to have the upper hand against page 1
>Page 1 is never seen again. Drake is searching for Sanji.

Why would Drake be searching for Sanji and not have page one with him if page one wasn't defeated?

Hence if Sanji didn't defeat Page, someone must have imo. I guess it was probably Drake that killed Page 1 and blamed it on Sanji.

In any case, the manga makes it pretty clear that Sanji was decently stronger than Page 1, so I will assume that's true, regardless of how the fight went down in the anime. However if it turns out that Sanji didn't beat Page 1, I'd say he's at most YC4 level(a little stronger than Judge) with his raid suit on.

However that could change depending on what he does in the war. I am hopeful that Luffy will leave wano with a bonafide yonko level crew, so I think that worst case scenario for Sanji would be that Jinbei replaces him as 3rd strongest and Sanji fights Jack. However he still deserves to 1v1 a calamity imo

Jimbei isn't that stronger than Sanji especially this point late in the game as he going to come late as Sanji face either King or Queen as we head into the war more. Also PO doesn't have much to come back as if so him leaving and never mention again doesn't make sense and even if Drake did something, Hawkins is by his side so he has nothing to keep privacy as PO isn't someone to be easily beaten or kill by his same tier, so got be something else over situation about it.

 

[OmegaPsyche]

If Oda didn't make it explicit Drake saved Law, then he ain't gonna make it explicit Drake defeated P1 either.

Sanjibois are delusional.

 

[True God Moe]

If Oda didn't make it explicit Drake saved Law, then he ain't gonna make it explicit Drake defeated P1 either.

Sanjibois are delusional.

He doesn't have make explicit, but hint about it which neither came on both ends. I don't see why Drake save Law since he still a Marine so why not let him die? Doesn't feel right there unless it's payment for Doflamingo situation or something?

Nah, only SwordBois, it's what your good at.

 

[bennbeckman]

My theory is Drake found Page One lying in the ground and told him that he was deleted by O Soba Mask, hence why Drake stated he was looking for "osoba mask" and based off their sparring in chapter 944 and 945 Drake looked stronger, no one knows which side drake will be fighting on during the duration of the war so he doesnt blow his cover etc, personally I believe Sanji and Drake will have a rematch

 

[Monkey D Theories]

If Oda didn't make it explicit Drake saved Law, then he ain't gonna make it explicit Drake defeated P1 either.

Sanjibois are delusional.

Well, I think it would be pretty stupid on someone's part, either Oda or the anime, if Page 1 never reappears in the story and we aren't told what happened to him. All Oda needs to do is drop one panel to make things more clear to us.

Jimbei isn't that stronger than Sanji especially this point late in the game as he going to come late as Sanji face either King or Queen as we head into the war more.

first off sanji isn't facing King 1v1 and winning just because they have some similarities. People said the same shit about katakuri.

second, I don't think Jinbei is stronger than sanji, however it is still a possibility.

 

[Shura]

Does it matter if Page one appears in war?...it won't make any difference or it won't diminish Sanji PL in anyway because

1) He is Zoan and therefore should definitely has a faster recovery rate and it has been over 7 days since his disappearance. It would be surprising if he didn't recover in this due time.

2) Even the fodder like holdem recovered fast and unlike zoans, he is a smile user so the chances of Page one recovering are damn high.

3) We know in one piece even when a villain appears later in the story it doesn't change the fact that they are defeated. Many examples are Lucci, Crocodile, Kaku, Killer, Caesar etc.

Anyways, the character "Page one" won't change the course of war, so it would be pointless to discuss about him.....

 

[True God Moe]

Well, I think it would be pretty stupid on someone's part, either Oda or the anime, if Page 1 never reappears in the story and we aren't told what happened to him. All Oda needs to do is drop one panel to make things more clear to us.



first off sanji isn't facing King 1v1 and winning just because they have some similarities. People said the same shit about katakuri.

second, I don't think Jinbei is stronger than sanji, however it is still a possibility.

Again could be solo or team up as feel it might be team up on each YC given flashback how Oden and Scabbard were getting beaten in teams, so who knows. Jimbei is strong, but he going to miss out a lot in arc and comes late and Sanji will surpass him in power more in the process especially already dominating over T6H already.

 

[sanjikun]

But you should know that just because a character makes a statement doesn't mean they will succeed in carrying out said statement

Yes they will, unless you question the reliability of the character/statement. That line was the most matter of fact thing in the world. Page 1 is a rando character with 0 relevance to the plot. There is absolutely 0 reason for the readers to doubt Oda or Sanji, other than being retarded fanboys.

Like someone else mentioned, there are 4 other Tobbi Roppo. Page 1 is absolutely irrelevant in a war between the Supernova, Samurai and 2 Yonkos. We have no reason to doubt Sanji.

 

[nik87]

Yes they will, unless you question the reliability of the character/statement. That line was the most matter of fact thing in the world. Page 1 is a rando character with 0 relevance to the plot. There is absolutely 0 reason for the readers to doubt Oda or Sanji, other than being retarded fanboys.

Like someone else mentioned, there are 4 other Tobbi Roppo. Page 1 is absolutely irrelevant in a war between the Supernova, Samurai and 2 Yonkos. We have no reason to doubt Sanji.

Or Sanji isnt known for beating people fast and his appearance was called in instantly with Drake and Hawkins just around the block.
There are plenty of reasons to doubt the result of that fight and anime just added oil on that fire.

 

[Shimotsuki Fenaker]

At least read what I write so there is no unnecessary confusion...
I never said he terrorised anyone after Sanji has retreated since there is no point, he simply ain't there anymore, he saw him fly away.
You literally saw Drake and Hawkins quit on the same mission and you are only reacting because PageOne quit it too...

I told you not to use headcanon and that you dont know what happened but you acted like you knew and now you are in this problem only because of yourself. You gave Sanji a victory which he never had, according to anime at least and uncertain according to manga.

Credible foes 🐐🐐

 

[Geo]

Yes they will, unless you question the reliability of the character/statement. That line was the most matter of fact thing in the world. Page 1 is a rando character with 0 relevance to the plot. There is absolutely 0 reason for the readers to doubt Oda or Sanji, other than being retarded fanboys.

Like someone else mentioned, there are 4 other Tobbi Roppo. Page 1 is absolutely irrelevant in a war between the Supernova, Samurai and 2 Yonkos. We have no reason to doubt Sanji.

What do you mean yes they will? Or do you want me to give you examples before you get that just because a character says something doesn't necessarily mean they will follow through with it.

1 Luffy : I will not run away.l
Manga: Run away from Big Mom
2. Sanji: I will not cook for the enemy
Manga : Cooks for the enemy
3. Luffy in Act 2 about to face Kaido : I will defeat Kaido
Manga: gets one shotted
4. Zoro ; will gather up the samurai before Luffy shows up
Manga : nothing happened
5. Sanji : I will not resort to the power of science (Germa)
Manga: uses RS at first opportunity of a fight.

Actually Sanji specifically has been the most contradictory character in the manga

 

[True God Moe]

What do you mean yes they will? Or do you want me to give you examples before you get that just because a character says something doesn't necessarily mean they will follow through with it.

1 Luffy : I will not run away.l
Manga: Run away from Big Mom
2. Sanji: I will not cook for the enemy
Manga : Cooks for the enemy
3. Luffy in Act 2 about to face Kaido : I will defeat Kaido
Manga: gets one shotted
4. Zoro ; will gather up the samurai before Luffy shows up
Manga : nothing happened
5. Sanji : I will not resort to the power of science (Germa)
Manga: uses RS at first opportunity of a fight.

Actually Sanji specifically has been the most contradictory character in the manga

Actually no just Zoro. Don't forget Zoro said to Harjudan the cage will be gone once you wake up. Later, he work up to help stop it.

Luffy and Sanji have their reasons on those, but not contradictory. Your missing reasons they stated. Zoro though just saying shit without meaning at all. He didn't put reason on any of those.

 

[Zowo]

What do you mean yes they will? Or do you want me to give you examples before you get that just because a character says something doesn't necessarily mean they will follow through with it.

1 Luffy : I will not run away.l
Manga: Run away from Big Mom
2. Sanji: I will not cook for the enemy
Manga : Cooks for the enemy
3. Luffy in Act 2 about to face Kaido : I will defeat Kaido
Manga: gets one shotted
4. Zoro ; will gather up the samurai before Luffy shows up
Manga : nothing happened
5. Sanji : I will not resort to the power of science (Germa)
Manga: uses RS at first opportunity of a fight.

Actually Sanji specifically has been the most contradictory character in the manga

also the cake thing

 

[Geo]

Actually no just Zoro. Don't forget Zoro said to Harjudan the cage will be gone once you wake up. Later, he work up to help stop it.

Luffy and Sanji have their reasons on those, but not contradictory. Your missing reasons they stated. Zoro though just saying shit without meaning at all. He didn't put reason on any of those.

Reasons are irrelevant though. Only means that Character statements are not necessarily meaning they will succeed in it...so extra support for my point

 

[True God Moe]

also the cake thing

Cake not her out and save the crew. That wasn't a lie and plus if you think anything could stop BM with fighting her that just dumb.