General & Others The myth of One Piece being a "masterpiece"/"peak fiction"
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One Piece is a masterpiece just only on the fact that has been for 25 years a massive hit. Not that popularity is an index of quality, but being a master piece is not only that. One Piece survived for 25 years where mangas were cut left and right, Bleach was downright ended without no explanation, HxH couldn't keep up with its own plot. ALl the while, One Piece is still today relevant, topping charts of all sorts.
One Piece is the one of the only shonen of the old generation that survived in the modern times. 25 years ago shonen were nowhere close to where they are now, and although strawmanning deluded powerlevelrs keep yelling it, One Piece has been dynamic enough to change to cater to new audiences. They keep using strawman's arguments like "never changing the formula", when One Piece by it's own existance is the only manga where it's not about the enemy of the week with overarching enemy of the month. One of the only shonen which most people read for the misteries and not only for the fights.
One Piece is the one of the only shonen of the old generation that survived in the modern times. 25 years ago shonen were nowhere close to where they are now, and although strawmanning deluded powerlevelrs keep yelling it, One Piece has been dynamic enough to change to cater to new audiences. They keep using strawman's arguments like "never changing the formula", when One Piece by it's own existance is the only manga where it's not about the enemy of the week with overarching enemy of the month. One of the only shonen which most people read for the misteries and not only for the fights.
Over work HxH.
Which has one third of the chapters of One Piece.
Make all the excuses you want, HxH suffers the same fate of GoT, which is "i don't know what to do because I didn't plan my story".
Say whatever you want, you did not address any of my points and keep regurgitating the same stale memes.
Jojo is a masterpiece because 1. it's a product of passion, 2. Changed 8 times across its publication history.
JJK I have not read, Naruto is absolute and unalterated shit. If the time skip of One Piece is garbage I don't even know how to define Shippuden.
DBZ was a generetion before, it's like comparing apples and oranges.
Which has one third of the chapters of One Piece.
Make all the excuses you want, HxH suffers the same fate of GoT, which is "i don't know what to do because I didn't plan my story".
Say whatever you want, you did not address any of my points and keep regurgitating the same stale memes.
Jojo is a masterpiece because 1. it's a product of passion, 2. Changed 8 times across its publication history.
JJK I have not read, Naruto is absolute and unalterated shit. If the time skip of One Piece is garbage I don't even know how to define Shippuden.
DBZ was a generetion before, it's like comparing apples and oranges.
Excuses? Togashi has the story planned...he couldn't write because it caused him pain. They're about to release 19 or more chapters when hxh returns. Togashi isn't the type to stop writing for no reason. Stop making up bullshit for your narrative. Since when has a famous mangaka lied to their fans? He obviously does know what he wants to do he finished the Chimera ant saga now he's in the dark continent saga.
There's nothing to excuse he finished the majority of the story. One Piece was made in 1999 so calling DBZ a generation before is bullshit. Stop coping.
Not to mention he already finished 1 of the best manga of all time Yu Yu Hakusho then created another masterpiece in Hunter x Hunter.
There's nothing to excuse he finished the majority of the story. One Piece was made in 1999 so calling DBZ a generation before is bullshit. Stop coping.
Not to mention he already finished 1 of the best manga of all time Yu Yu Hakusho then created another masterpiece in Hunter x Hunter.
I am making stuff up?
Just look at the mess that is the end of Yu Yu Hakusho to get precedents of how togashi handles his long running plot. The last arc of YYH is the definition of shitting the bed, and you can make up as many excuses as you want, that's not changing.
19 more chapters,lol, and I am the one making stuff up. Of course he would never lie, he has 19 chapters ready, let's just look at how is the routing with that, shall we? https://hiatus-hiatus.github.io/
This is what HxH is, and as much as oblivious fans will deny it, HxH will die uncomplete and aimless.
One Piece Started in 1997, Dragon ball FINISHED in 1995. Yes, generation apart, as I said. Do you even have reading comprehension, or should I draw pictures for you to understand better?
Just look at the mess that is the end of Yu Yu Hakusho to get precedents of how togashi handles his long running plot. The last arc of YYH is the definition of shitting the bed, and you can make up as many excuses as you want, that's not changing.
19 more chapters,lol, and I am the one making stuff up. Of course he would never lie, he has 19 chapters ready, let's just look at how is the routing with that, shall we? https://hiatus-hiatus.github.io/
This is what HxH is, and as much as oblivious fans will deny it, HxH will die uncomplete and aimless.
One Piece Started in 1997, Dragon ball FINISHED in 1995. Yes, generation apart, as I said. Do you even have reading comprehension, or should I draw pictures for you to understand better?
Yes of course he has the plot ready. Just like Game of Thrones, he just cannot draw it because x.
I wish I was that candid and innocent to believe lies like that. I believe the word is also gullible.
He could have anyone draw it, but since he doesn't know what to do he cannot.
Simple as.
BUt please, keep deluding yourself.
I wish I was that candid and innocent to believe lies like that. I believe the word is also gullible.
He could have anyone draw it, but since he doesn't know what to do he cannot.
Simple as.
BUt please, keep deluding yourself.
HxH is already finished.
The main part was always Gon's journey and finding his dad.
This main plot has already been completed in an almost perfect way.
Everything else that is happening now is extended bonus world building and episodic storytelling starring the side characters (Kurapika, Leorio, Hisoka).
A bit like the episodic style in Pulp Fiction, which is a really nice and creative way of writing for a shonen btw.
If you talk about "wandering aimlessly", you probably mean Oda.
He is the guy that writes every arc exactly like the 15+ arcs before (like I outlined in my original post) and chickens out every time he could reveal at least one major secret. Instead he just keeps adding new "mysteries" instead of revealing at least some of them. Maybe he knows that he is much better at introducing new questions than actually explaining some of them.
The main part was always Gon's journey and finding his dad.
This main plot has already been completed in an almost perfect way.
Everything else that is happening now is extended bonus world building and episodic storytelling starring the side characters (Kurapika, Leorio, Hisoka).
A bit like the episodic style in Pulp Fiction, which is a really nice and creative way of writing for a shonen btw.
If you talk about "wandering aimlessly", you probably mean Oda.
He is the guy that writes every arc exactly like the 15+ arcs before (like I outlined in my original post) and chickens out every time he could reveal at least one major secret. Instead he just keeps adding new "mysteries" instead of revealing at least some of them. Maybe he knows that he is much better at introducing new questions than actually explaining some of them.
One Piece is reaching its end, we discovered 1 of the three ancestral weapons, probably we'll see the next 1 in the future. And trust me, I'll be the first one to shit on One Piece if the 800 years story, the joyboy story and the ancestral weapons won't be revealed. Bookmark this post, I will stand by this. One piece relies on those misteries, if it's a mistery box, the whole narrative collapse.
HxH is over? Doesn't look like that to me.
And your reduction of similiraty is completely malicious, because we could do that to ANY manga and see that they all fit in a similar way, being Naruto, Bersekr or Dragonball. Hell, you could say that Jojo is enemy of the week.
Doing what you are doing is like saying that the Lord of the Rings is just a group of friends trekking in a field, why couldn't they use the eagles.
It's the end and the trip itself that matters. The only two arcs that "mirror" themselves are Dressrosa and Alabasta, but the set up is different, the plot purpose is different, the power dynamics are different (Luffy arrives already able to solve the problem) and the whole grand fleet thing. You don't like it? Wonderful. Some don't, some do.
HxH is over? Doesn't look like that to me.
And your reduction of similiraty is completely malicious, because we could do that to ANY manga and see that they all fit in a similar way, being Naruto, Bersekr or Dragonball. Hell, you could say that Jojo is enemy of the week.
Doing what you are doing is like saying that the Lord of the Rings is just a group of friends trekking in a field, why couldn't they use the eagles.
It's the end and the trip itself that matters. The only two arcs that "mirror" themselves are Dressrosa and Alabasta, but the set up is different, the plot purpose is different, the power dynamics are different (Luffy arrives already able to solve the problem) and the whole grand fleet thing. You don't like it? Wonderful. Some don't, some do.
Yes of course he has the plot ready. Just like Game of Thrones, he just cannot draw it because x.
I wish I was that candid and innocent to believe lies like that. I believe the word is also gullible.
He could have anyone draw it, but since he doesn't know what to do he cannot.
Simple as.
BUt please, keep deluding yourself.
I wish I was that candid and innocent to believe lies like that. I believe the word is also gullible.
He could have anyone draw it, but since he doesn't know what to do he cannot.
Simple as.
BUt please, keep deluding yourself.
Here he says, "The only arc I drew while not knowing the conclusion was the dodgeball match. That was the one where I just came up with the story each week. For the rest, I at least try to come up with most of the story ahead of time."
Of course man, "most of the story". The story of "I've not been publishing anything for 3 years".
Man, I don't know what to tell you. Believe anything togashi says. After all, he's been very reliable so far. https://hiatus-hiatus.github.io/
3 years and a half today, almost the entirety of Wano.
Man, I don't know what to tell you. Believe anything togashi says. After all, he's been very reliable so far. https://hiatus-hiatus.github.io/
3 years and a half today, almost the entirety of Wano.