Kaidou noticed about the sword and Oden first in battle even though Zoro was in the middle of fghting him, presence is not powerlevel-related except if it's Enma function of storing haki which is Oden's.
...except maybe you think we should take Kaidou's words literally? So Oden's person, himself with both of his swords and his haki and his sword techniques is all present inside of Enma?
He said it when Zoro attacked him etc and you know which panel where Kaidou noticed Oden's presence in Enma more than Zoro's power.
...except maybe you think we should take Kaidou's words literally? So Oden's person, himself with both of his swords and his haki and his sword techniques is all present inside of Enma?
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He said it when Zoro attacked him etc and you know which panel where Kaidou noticed Oden's presence in Enma more than Zoro's power.
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Enma doesn't contain Oden's haki. It doesn't store anyone's haki. The only haki enma has is from the user currently using enma if they wishes to use haki at that time or they can't control enma and it forcibly releases haki from the user.
Presence does not equal to haki. When Kaido talks about the haki in enma he calls it strange and you seem to ignore that and the information about enma provided to us by the blacksmith.
My previous post explains everything.
Presence does not equal to haki. When Kaido talks about the haki in enma he calls it strange and you seem to ignore that and the information about enma provided to us by the blacksmith.
My previous post explains everything.
Here we go again. Let's have some fun.
Enma doesn't store haki. It forces out more haki than the current user wishes to release if they can't control it.
Usopp won't Scar Kaido with enma. If the Scabbards can't control enma than a none swordsman like Usopp can't. Swinging a sword doesn't equal to controlling a sword.
When Zoro first attacked Kaido he didn't scar or even cut Kaido. He only bruised him. If enma was the reason Zoro scarred Kaido than each one of his attacks would have scarred Kaido. Especially, since you believe Usopp, a none swordsman, can scarred Kaido with enma. It's almost like Oda added that scene to shut up anybody who wants to claim enma does the work, not the user.
The strange haki Kaido feels is Zoro's haki. Kaido is familiar with Oden and his haki so he knows how it feels. He is unfamiliar with Zoro's haki because he has never faced Zoro before so Zoro's haki would feel strange to him.
When Zoro scarred Kaido he never mentioned Oden or Oden's haki. He only mentioned Zoro's haki (CoC) and gave credit to Zoro, not enma or Oden.
Zoro didn't know what Luffy was training in. They didn't train together so the first time he saw Luffy use his new power was against Kaido.
That was just his reaction to seeing Luffy's new power for the first time.
As we can see, Zoro didn't know what Luffy training. Which was different than Kid who didn't know the type of haki Luffy learned or the fact it can be used with physical attacks.
Go ahead and hold this, you deserve it.
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Enma doesn't store haki. It forces out more haki than the current user wishes to release if they can't control it.
Usopp won't Scar Kaido with enma. If the Scabbards can't control enma than a none swordsman like Usopp can't. Swinging a sword doesn't equal to controlling a sword.
When Zoro first attacked Kaido he didn't scar or even cut Kaido. He only bruised him. If enma was the reason Zoro scarred Kaido than each one of his attacks would have scarred Kaido. Especially, since you believe Usopp, a none swordsman, can scarred Kaido with enma. It's almost like Oda added that scene to shut up anybody who wants to claim enma does the work, not the user.
The strange haki Kaido feels is Zoro's haki. Kaido is familiar with Oden and his haki so he knows how it feels. He is unfamiliar with Zoro's haki because he has never faced Zoro before so Zoro's haki would feel strange to him.
When Zoro scarred Kaido he never mentioned Oden or Oden's haki. He only mentioned Zoro's haki (CoC) and gave credit to Zoro, not enma or Oden.
Zoro didn't know what Luffy was training in. They didn't train together so the first time he saw Luffy use his new power was against Kaido.
That was just his reaction to seeing Luffy's new power for the first time.
As we can see, Zoro didn't know what Luffy training. Which was different than Kid who didn't know the type of haki Luffy learned or the fact it can be used with physical attacks.
Go ahead and hold this, you deserve it.
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Never said such a thing which chapter and panel is that from certainly not one piece
another absolutely ridiculous claim you are really inventing stuff out of thin air at this point
How does mere presence of dead man turn into powerful haki enough to slice off such a huge skull almost 10 times bigger than size of Kaido himself. Why has there been no explanation so far into the series of over thousand chapters presence equals haki
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another absolutely ridiculous claim you are really inventing stuff out of thin air at this point
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How does mere presence of dead man turn into powerful haki enough to slice off such a huge skull almost 10 times bigger than size of Kaido himself. Why has there been no explanation so far into the series of over thousand chapters presence equals haki
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The translation regarding "haki" is most likely wronged and presence should be the correct one. I presented many times a case on why Enma is presumably nothing but a training tool and an option that could explain the matter could be the capability of swords to be living objects therefore presence might mean that Enma stored Enel's quirks before he died, but overall it shall not have stored his haki for very specific reasons.
Kaido "Why does that boy's sword has Oden's presence?"
"Watch out that sword is abnormal " Linlin
Kaido "I see...that sword is indeed Oden's "
Zoro himself " I should unleash enma more"
Not his other swords but ENMA!
The 2 times Zoro unleashed enma (when he did Tatsumaki & Ashura), oda focused on it and showed its aura!
Fanboys " Enma didn't do a thing, Emma isn't the reason why Zoro scarred kaido or looked impressive"
How many times did Yonko or zoro himself spoke about Zoro's own haki or strength? Once or twice
But enma was singled out 4-6 times!
Enma carried Zoro! While Luffy's own haki : adcoa, fs and adcoc carried him.
"Watch out that sword is abnormal " Linlin
Kaido "I see...that sword is indeed Oden's "
Zoro himself " I should unleash enma more"
Not his other swords but ENMA!
The 2 times Zoro unleashed enma (when he did Tatsumaki & Ashura), oda focused on it and showed its aura!
Fanboys " Enma didn't do a thing, Emma isn't the reason why Zoro scarred kaido or looked impressive"
How many times did Yonko or zoro himself spoke about Zoro's own haki or strength? Once or twice
But enma was singled out 4-6 times!
Enma carried Zoro! While Luffy's own haki : adcoa, fs and adcoc carried him.
Because it was used by Oden's most of his life Ame no Habakiri would have his presence as well. Zoro Wado would carry his presence since he had been using it since childhood.
No the word Big mom used were that's no ordinary sword which is correct none of the 21 great grade swords are ordinary this doesn't only apply to Enma. The reason it was singled out by Big Mom is because it was the only sword Zoro used to perform his Hiryu kaen.
I don't get how this adds to Zoro strength at all just because it belonged to Oden once, it's still same grade as Zoro Shusui Wado and Ame no habakiri.
Tenguyama explained Enma steals the users haki it's obvious why Zoro kept tight leash on it, and not because he was tapping into some hidden power of Enma like you are implying.
Why would Zoro need to leash his two other swords he has fully mastered to begin with they don't steal the users haki like Enma does.
Zoro carried himself like he always has been throughout the series
No the word Big mom used were that's no ordinary sword which is correct none of the 21 great grade swords are ordinary this doesn't only apply to Enma. The reason it was singled out by Big Mom is because it was the only sword Zoro used to perform his Hiryu kaen.
I don't get how this adds to Zoro strength at all just because it belonged to Oden once, it's still same grade as Zoro Shusui Wado and Ame no habakiri.
Tenguyama explained Enma steals the users haki it's obvious why Zoro kept tight leash on it, and not because he was tapping into some hidden power of Enma like you are implying.
Why would Zoro need to leash his two other swords he has fully mastered to begin with they don't steal the users haki like Enma does.
Zoro carried himself like he always has been throughout the series
