Questions & Mysteries The pirate Shanks talked about was Teach

[JoNdule]

That's why Teach bounty was updated to 3.996B
He made them realise that he's juste like Xebec, he's leading Kuzan and will try to take their spot as King of the world

just like how he went to talk to WB about Teach to warn him that he's powerful and will one day take WB spot in NW (which did happen later on)

So Teach might succeed becoming King of the world for sometime, something Xebec couldn't do
Luffy will become PK and is Joyboy by saving the world, something Roger couldn't do since Roger didn't have gomu fruit & was too early.

Oh yeah Imu had posters of the 4 key characters of this endgame:
Ancient weapon, Shirahoshi, prophesied to aid the new Joyboy (luffy)
Xebec successor, Teach
Lili descendant, Vivi
Joyboy & Roger's successor, Luffy
3 D clan members with Shirahoshi (who might be a D. too)

Gorosei took Shanks warning in consideration and told Navy to assign new bounty on him, and keep an eye on him more than before
This is why Navy was able to learn about Teach vs Law faster. And also why Teach bounty upgraded out of nowhere without doing anything before going to amazon a week or days before the Onigashima started

@Blackbeard @RayanOO

 

[Aldarion]

That makes sense. We know Shanks kept an eye on Teach ever since Buggy pointed Teach's wierdness out back when they were kids. So chances are, if there is anyone who understands the sort of threat Teach poses, that is Shanks.

Though, was it Shanks talking to the Gorosei or his twin brother? We didn't see the scar, after all... and remember how quickly guy appeared at Marineford after facing Kaido.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

No it was goofy. He's getting too goofy and shanks doesn't wanna fight him as per his old promise

 

[ako]

I agree. And I gotta say BBs chance to become the final villain is as high as Imu's is.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Sigh, then there would have been zero reason to hide it from the readers. Shanks could have just said, "Im here to talk about Blackbeard" and that would have validated the argument, because its obvious they hate each other. But the point is, he never explicitly stated who the person is, which is like mystery 101 for it not being Blackbeard because its the first person you think of lol.

Imo, currently, its neither Luffy or Blackbeard, but the Burned Man. Something tells me Shiryu was right on the money about the Burned Man's status as a WG employee and I still believe Shanks is still likely playing some role with the WG in the end.

 

[.Charm.]

I see Blackbeard too sided with the WG.

I mean, he wants to be the king of the world and Beehive to be a proper kingdom.

Blackbeard cares about business and political theme.

Some Doflamingo vibes here.

 

[NAMELESS]

Shanks or Man Marked by the Flames!I loved your theory.I never thought about Shanks causing BB bounty to boom like that.

 

[Reborn]

That's why Teach bounty was updated to 3.996B
He made them realise that he's juste like Xebec, he's leading Kuzan and will try to take their spot as King of the world

just like how he went to talk to WB about Teach to warn him that he's powerful and will one day take WB spot in NW (which did happen later on)

So Teach might succeed becoming King of the world for sometime, something Xebec couldn't do
Luffy will become PK and is Joyboy by saving the world, something Roger couldn't do since Roger didn't have gomu fruit & was too early.

Oh yeah Imu had posters of the 4 key characters of this endgame:
Ancient weapon, Shirahoshi, prophesied to aid the new Joyboy (luffy)
Xebec successor, Teach
Lili descendant, Vivi
Joyboy & Roger's successor, Luffy
3 D clan members with Shirahoshi (who might be a D. too)

Gorosei took Shanks warning in consideration and told Navy to assign new bounty on him, and keep an eye on him more than before
This is why Navy was able to learn about Teach vs Law faster. And also why Teach bounty upgraded out of nowhere without doing anything before going to amazon a week or days before the Onigashima started

@Blackbeard @RayanOO

It has to be BB or burn scar man

 

[Paperchampion23]

It has to be BB or burn scar man

Burned Man in this case (as far as currently unnamed characters that Oda would hide) really is the only option to me. Narratively it makes little sense to hide Shanks mentioning Blackbeard to them because we already know they are enemies to begin with.

Outside of this, the only other characters he could ideally be talking about (to keep an element of surprise) would be:

- Luffy (personally doubting now because they talk as if nobody told them about Nika beforehand, only due to Zunisha showing up did they make the gesture)
- Rocks (a possibility but as far as we know he's dead dead)
- Shiki, Silver Axe or Ochoku. Imo extremely low chances considering their current lack of relevancy in the plot.


The Burned Man just works because A) Shanks is a Yonko and needs the Poneglyph and B) His obvious connection with the WG may be a means to playing into their favor if he goes after One Piece himself.

The key thing is "why now"? He only went to them after he saw Luffy's new bounty. And not even suggesting him talking about Luffy specifically, but what could prompt him to visit the Gorosei at that exact time? Considering the 4th RP would be central to the plot after this, I can just see it being about that.

 

[Reborn]

Burned Man in this case (as far as currently unnamed characters that Oda would hide) really is the only option to me. Narratively it makes little sense to hide Shanks mentioning Blackbeard to them because we already know they are enemies to begin with.

Outside of this, the only other characters he could ideally be talking about (to keep an element of surprise) would be:

- Luffy (personally doubting now because they talk as if nobody told them about Nika beforehand, only due to Zunisha showing up did they make the gesture)
- Rocks (a possibility but as far as we know he's dead dead)
- Shiki, Silver Axe or Ochoku. Imo extremely low chances considering their current lack of relevancy in the plot.


The Burned Man just works because A) Shanks is a Yonko and needs the Poneglyph and B) His obvious connection with the WG may be a means to playing into their favor if he goes after One Piece himself.

The key thing is "why now"? He only went to them after he saw Luffy's new bounty. And not even suggesting him talking about Luffy specifically, but what could prompt him to visit the Gorosei at that exact time? Considering the 4th RP would be central to the plot after this, I can just see it being about that.

Tbh, I don't really think too much about it.

You are right that keeping it a secret makes no sense if BB is the one about whom he talked as he is the first character which pops in the mind

But, oda can also pull "obvious cards" and he has done so in the past as well.


The argument "why now" works for both BB and Burn scar man - In BB case because of his links with xebec or shanks knowing something about BB past. And, it makes more sense to go after luffy bounty if you connect it with shanks next move was to wano - to intercept BB expecting he will come there

In Burn scar - because his yet to get introduced and we don't know much about him.

And, I don't think shanks is kind of a guy who will work to gain some favor from WG.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Tbh, I don't really think too much about it.

You are right that keeping it a secret makes no sense if BB is the one about whom he talked as he is the first character which pops in the mind

But, oda can also pull "obvious cards" and he has done so in the past as well.


The argument "why now" works for both BB and Burn scar man - In BB case because of his links with xebec or shanks knowing something about BB past. And, it makes more sense to go after luffy bounty if you connect it with shanks next move was to wano - to intercept BB expecting he will come there

In Burn scar - because his yet to get introduced and we don't know much about him.

And, I don't think shanks is kind of a guy who will work to gain some favor from WG.

The fact that he's talking to them at all is the problem lol. There is no means to why he would openly discuss issues with Gorosei who straight up deleted a kingdom like....a week after. And he's not an idiot, he knows they enslave people and kill those aiming for the true history. Blackbeard is no better. He's quite literally enslaving and terrorizing people in Beehive, so Im not understanding how Shanks would believe Blackbeard is any worse a threat to the world than the WG.

To discuss something with them is to benefit from the conversation, otherwise, why go there in the first place?

Blackbeard being the "lesser of 2 evils" does not work for me here, that would be a terrible plot thread to pull from considering what Imu just did on a planetary scale.

 

[Cross_Marian]

Shanks twin brother talked about Shanks

 

[mmd]

bb is a yonko and no one needs to warn about him
It seems more like Shanks is warning about a hidden pirate that is an old legend..Like bb, that person is probably the common enemy of Shanks and the Five Elders
And if I'm not mistaken, we still don't know who the new Joker is

 

[Reborn]

The fact that he's talking to them at all is the problem lol. There is no means to why he would openly discuss issues with Gorosei who straight up deleted a kingdom like....a week after. And he's not an idiot, he knows they enslave people and kill those aiming for the true history. Blackbeard is no better. He's quite literally enslaving and terrorizing people in Beehive, so Im not understanding how Shanks would believe Blackbeard is any worse a threat to the world than the WG.

To discuss something with them is to benefit from the conversation, otherwise, why go there in the first place?

Blackbeard being the "lesser of 2 evils" does not work for me here, that would be a terrible plot thread to pull from considering what Imu just did on a planetary scale.

I don't know.

WG and yonkou maintain balance. Shanks know it. Maybe he knows something about BB which might upset the huge balance.

And, what imu did is known to us (readers) but not to one piece Verse so for Shanks BB having some crazy secret could be more dangerous



As far as burn scar man is concerned then yes....shanks could have gone to talk about him but my issue is this

Shanks went over there to inform something about someone. Perhaps even negotiate who knows... but why he will talk about burn scar man? How informing about him to WG will help shanks get 4th RPG?

 

[bluefire12]

Sigh, then there would have been zero reason to hide it from the readers. Shanks could have just said, "Im here to talk about Blackbeard" and that would have validated the argument, because its obvious they hate each other. But the point is, he never explicitly stated who the person is, which is like mystery 101 for it not being Blackbeard because its the first person you think of lol.

Imo, currently, its neither Luffy or Blackbeard, but the Burned Man. Something tells me Shiryu was right on the money about the Burned Man's status as a WG employee and I still believe Shanks is still likely playing some role with the WG in the end.

I'm thinking it could be Caribo

bb is a yonko and no one needs to warn about him
It seems more like Shanks is warning about a hidden pirate that is an old legend..Like bb, that person is probably the common enemy of Shanks and the Five Elders
And if I'm not mistaken, we still don't know who the new Joker is

I think the new joker is Croco or an ally of Cross Guild

 

[Paperchampion23]

I don't know.

WG and yonkou maintain balance. Shanks know it. Maybe he knows something about BB which might upset the huge balance.

And, what imu did is known to us (readers) but not to one piece Verse so for Shanks BB having some crazy secret could be more dangerous



As far as burn scar man is concerned then yes....shanks could have gone to talk about him but my issue is this

Shanks went over there to inform something about someone. Perhaps even negotiate who knows... but why he will talk about burn scar man? How informing about him to WG will help shanks get 4th RPG?

Just a guess, but if its the Burned Man and lets say he's "allied" to the WG due to his lineage, maybe they know where the Burned Man is?

All he mentions to them is he wants to talk about a certain pirate, and Shiryu mentions the idea of the WG having a pirate with the 4th RP in their posession

Honestly I dont know either, thats what makes the scene so great imo, like we cant really explain why the fuck hes there lol

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I'm thinking it could be Caribo


I think the new joker is Croco or an ally of Cross Guild

I reaaally dont think Caribou of all people warrants a discussion with the Gorosei lol. Even at that point, he has not been able to tell his "mystery" person about Shirahoshi or Pluton. He has literally been captured by Jinbe, then Kaido, and now stuck with Luffy's crew atm.

I would sooner think this mystery person is also the burned man as well. It just sounds like a lot of our unresolved narrative threads may come from this person's existence.

 

[bluefire12]

Just a guess, but if its the Burned Man and lets say he's "allied" to the WG due to his lineage, maybe they know where the Burned Man is?

All he mentions to them is he wants to talk about a certain pirate, and Shiryu mentions the idea of the WG having a pirate with the 4th RP in their posession

Honestly I dont know either, thats what makes the scene so great imo, like we cant really explain why the fuck hes there lol

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I reaaally dont think Caribou of all people warrants a discussion with the Gorosei lol. Even at that point, he has not been able to tell his "mystery" person about Shirahoshi or Pluton. He has literally been captured by Jinbe, then Kaido, and now stuck with Luffy's crew atm.

I would sooner think this mystery person is also the burned man as well. It just sounds like a lot of our unresolved narrative threads may come from this person's existence.

Oh I meant caribou boss, forget to place that in the reply

 

[Dickie D. Dick]

@mmd the snitch told the Gorosei that his face scar was Blackbeard doing and demend they will raise his bounty for hurting a Celestial Dragon.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Teach or Luffy

 

[mmd]

@mmd the snitch told the Gorosei that his face scar was Blackbeard doing and demend they will raise his bounty for hurting a Celestial Dragon.

Oda was going to give 3 billion bounty to clowns like Mihawk and Admiral and buggy, and suddenly he remembered that bb is more important than all of them.
The reason for the bounty increase may be as simple as this and has no logical reason