Current Events The Real Reason WHY Wano´s arc is so hated
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You are 100% spot on.
One of Oda's biggest mistakes was to focus so fucking much on lame comedy relief characters like Queen as well as people like cringe Ulti or the Scabbards.
He could've saved a lot of that panel time to develop actually meaningful plot points in the arc but hey this manga is supposed to target an audience of 16 year olds like the walking clowns from Reddit so it's understandable.
One of Oda's biggest mistakes was to focus so fucking much on lame comedy relief characters like Queen as well as people like cringe Ulti or the Scabbards.
He could've saved a lot of that panel time to develop actually meaningful plot points in the arc but hey this manga is supposed to target an audience of 16 year olds like the walking clowns from Reddit so it's understandable.
There are many reasons from what I've seen. Conversely, even those who claim it is the best thing ever give fairly consistent reasons as well. Starting with the hate though:
- Arc is too long and dragged out
- Lack of tension
- Too many tedious plotlines
- Lack of focus on Strawhats
- Powerlevels
- Unmet expectations
Some I'd say are reasonable. Some others, not so much. Some of them won't be fixed by re-reading either. Reading week to week doesn't explain all the issues people have with Wano.
As for those who love it:
- Hype
- Character they love is prominent
- Japanese style setting/atmosphere
- Love Oden and everything centered around that
- Arc is too long and dragged out
- Lack of tension
- Too many tedious plotlines
- Lack of focus on Strawhats
- Powerlevels
- Unmet expectations
Some I'd say are reasonable. Some others, not so much. Some of them won't be fixed by re-reading either. Reading week to week doesn't explain all the issues people have with Wano.
As for those who love it:
- Hype
- Character they love is prominent
- Japanese style setting/atmosphere
- Love Oden and everything centered around that
Things that i always complain about Wano :
1. Motherly mode
2. Ancient Zoan durability doesn't meet the hype. In fact their durability is worse than the scabbards.
3. Fake death
4. The dragging is just too obvious to ignore.
Im okay with everything else since i dont expect too much from the first place.
Everyone have their own taste im sure. But for me personally Wano is not the best arc. And after rereading, i conclude that Marineford is actually even worse.
I dont know if this is just me but personally i love rereading w7/ennies lobby, Skypiea, and Alabasta for over and over again. But not so with Dresrossa, WCI, and Wano.
1. Motherly mode
2. Ancient Zoan durability doesn't meet the hype. In fact their durability is worse than the scabbards.
3. Fake death
4. The dragging is just too obvious to ignore.
Im okay with everything else since i dont expect too much from the first place.
Everyone have their own taste im sure. But for me personally Wano is not the best arc. And after rereading, i conclude that Marineford is actually even worse.
I dont know if this is just me but personally i love rereading w7/ennies lobby, Skypiea, and Alabasta for over and over again. But not so with Dresrossa, WCI, and Wano.
and he failed or did very bad job in every single of them
i became a weekly reader in PH i basically experienced every post ts ark expect FMI there are always a lot of hate in end of ark but personally i never was so negative about an ark i enjoyed previous arks for most part there was down moments but overall for me it wasn't this bad
honestly for most part i didn't liked wano ark in onigashima i didn't had that much problem with wano before onigashima but in onigashima it become much worse and it's not because of length of ark if it can make ark better for me i don't have problem if it will take another 50 chapter
i became a weekly reader in PH i basically experienced every post ts ark expect FMI there are always a lot of hate in end of ark but personally i never was so negative about an ark i enjoyed previous arks for most part there was down moments but overall for me it wasn't this bad
honestly for most part i didn't liked wano ark in onigashima i didn't had that much problem with wano before onigashima but in onigashima it become much worse and it's not because of length of ark if it can make ark better for me i don't have problem if it will take another 50 chapter
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Positives about wano come in forms of portrayal. So technically luffy beating a yonko and progressing closer to the one piece is the only good that comes from wano.
Tons of threads about why wano is disadterclass in this forum. here is mine
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/wano-is-disasterclass.20890/
Wano has fundamental issues regarding the story. if you cant see that idk what to tell you
I want arguments, not mockery
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/wano-is-disasterclass.20890/
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Wano has fundamental issues regarding the story. if you cant see that idk what to tell you
Why does Oda need to create so many characters? It actually ruins the story. Wano would be perfect if it just focused on Luffy, Zoro, Kid, Law, Kaido, and Big Mom.
Instead you throw in all these characters who on paper shouldn't be very important, but are essentially the main characters of their own arcs. Like Rebecca or the scabbards.
And I mean I like the scabbards don't get me wrong. But I find it a bit shitty when characters with over a decade of build up, like Big Mom or Kid, get sidelined to make room for new characters like Yamato or O-Tama.
Oda also destroyed any tension this arc had when he had Luffy jump like 5 powerlevels in the span of 3 chapters
Instead you throw in all these characters who on paper shouldn't be very important, but are essentially the main characters of their own arcs. Like Rebecca or the scabbards.
And I mean I like the scabbards don't get me wrong. But I find it a bit shitty when characters with over a decade of build up, like Big Mom or Kid, get sidelined to make room for new characters like Yamato or O-Tama.
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Oda also destroyed any tension this arc had when he had Luffy jump like 5 powerlevels in the span of 3 chapters
W7 was memorized because of Cp9 reveal and Luffy vs Usopp which was a well choreographed fight that increased stakes
Marine Ford was memorized because of WB's death, his fight with Akainu, and Ace's death, along with Luffy hype moments
So far in Wano, there is no shocking reveal, there are well choreographed fights (4), all tension gets resolved immediately unlike Merry's death and WB and Ace being killed, and there are no relevant deaths so far.
So I don't think it will ever crack the top 3
That's what I said did you not read it 😂😂😂
Marine Ford was memorized because of WB's death, his fight with Akainu, and Ace's death, along with Luffy hype moments
So far in Wano, there is no shocking reveal, there are well choreographed fights (4), all tension gets resolved immediately unlike Merry's death and WB and Ace being killed, and there are no relevant deaths so far.
So I don't think it will ever crack the top 3
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That's what I said did you not read it 😂😂😂
i also curious about positive thing in wano, we already see lot of SOLID Reason about why wano is bad so it,s time to see some positive argument ?
only can think 2 things
roger,WB and oden backstory
polyneghyph history and sea stone weapon factory
also wonder why sea stone weapon not used in raid? why beast pirates not try to fight luffy,kidd n law with seastone weapon? it will be effective right?
so far this arc kinda dragged a lot with too many plot points n too many characters but also feel rushed because of offscreen fight ...
only can think 2 things
roger,WB and oden backstory
polyneghyph history and sea stone weapon factory
also wonder why sea stone weapon not used in raid? why beast pirates not try to fight luffy,kidd n law with seastone weapon? it will be effective right?
so far this arc kinda dragged a lot with too many plot points n too many characters but also feel rushed because of offscreen fight ...
Reasons for people criticizing Wano are simple:
01. Weekly Read
02. Longest Arc (By far)
03. Too much Expectations (Because they thought it's Final War when it's not)
04. Forum Debates that lead to False Expectations & Impatience
05. Readers neglecting Lore & caring only about Fights (Something that Oda said he doesn't care about much)
06. Zoro Focus annoys his Haters too much
07. Number of Characters who need to be Developed
08. Increased Breaks
09. Reading Spoilers
... etc
It's basically the Fandom itself that turned Wano into such a Hated Arc
If a Reader have no False Expectations, read the Arc either from Start to Finish or by Volumes instead of weekly, not participate in Forum Debates or reading other's Opinions too much, caring about Lore & not much about Fights, not disliking Characters & enjoying all of them, and also avoiding Spoilers then they would enjoy the Arc much much better
I believe this is how a Manga is supposed to be read & enjoyed, but unfortunately the Fandom is doing the opposite completely & that's why they can't stop complaining, as if One Piece is a Live Service Video Game where they want the Content to be the way they desire.
01. Weekly Read
02. Longest Arc (By far)
03. Too much Expectations (Because they thought it's Final War when it's not)
04. Forum Debates that lead to False Expectations & Impatience
05. Readers neglecting Lore & caring only about Fights (Something that Oda said he doesn't care about much)
06. Zoro Focus annoys his Haters too much
07. Number of Characters who need to be Developed
08. Increased Breaks
09. Reading Spoilers
... etc
It's basically the Fandom itself that turned Wano into such a Hated Arc
If a Reader have no False Expectations, read the Arc either from Start to Finish or by Volumes instead of weekly, not participate in Forum Debates or reading other's Opinions too much, caring about Lore & not much about Fights, not disliking Characters & enjoying all of them, and also avoiding Spoilers then they would enjoy the Arc much much better
I believe this is how a Manga is supposed to be read & enjoyed, but unfortunately the Fandom is doing the opposite completely & that's why they can't stop complaining, as if One Piece is a Live Service Video Game where they want the Content to be the way they desire.