Bougya The Rocks Pirates take on the Ninja-Mink-Pirate-Samurai Alliance
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WB is 36 yrs old at god valley. Vivre cards say he reached his prime 2 yrs later. He is effectively Primebeard or very close to it. Mid-high top tier
BM was competitive with above WB during god valley. They fought in the past with no clear decisive victor. Mid top tier and still a considerable amount below old BM. Shes also definitely above rookie Kaido as her older sis here so anything he does she scales up
Kaido was ready to fight Xebec and turn the island into ruins. Portrayed well below WB and BM. You can argue for him being YC1-low top tier
Shiki Ig he doesnt have much except portrayed to his rival Silver axe, who has been pretty irrelevant. No higher than low top tier and thats purely speculation. He might not even be stronger than rookie Kaido
BM was competitive with above WB during god valley. They fought in the past with no clear decisive victor. Mid top tier and still a considerable amount below old BM. Shes also definitely above rookie Kaido as her older sis here so anything he does she scales up
Kaido was ready to fight Xebec and turn the island into ruins. Portrayed well below WB and BM. You can argue for him being YC1-low top tier
Shiki Ig he doesnt have much except portrayed to his rival Silver axe, who has been pretty irrelevant. No higher than low top tier and thats purely speculation. He might not even be stronger than rookie Kaido
2 years later ? Meanwhile 2 years earlier in current timeline Luffy was still in East Blue. Lots of things can happen in 2 years.
Bigmom's quarrel with Whitebeard isn't a feat. She stronk but could be anywhere in power level.
"They fought in the past with no clear decisive victor" when in the past ?
Kaido is as much ready to fight Xebec as Caribou the dirt could fight Goofy.
Only Xebec is confirmed to be at his prime in God Valley.
Even Garp isn't for sure at his prime.
We'll soon learn what actually happened in God Valley. You guys are too hungry, you've been powerscaling hype lines for the last few weeks lmao.
Bigmom's quarrel with Whitebeard isn't a feat. She stronk but could be anywhere in power level.
"They fought in the past with no clear decisive victor" when in the past ?
Kaido is as much ready to fight Xebec as Caribou the dirt could fight Goofy.
Only Xebec is confirmed to be at his prime in God Valley.
Even Garp isn't for sure at his prime.
We'll soon learn what actually happened in God Valley. You guys are too hungry, you've been powerscaling hype lines for the last few weeks lmao.
GV BM has a score to settle with Primebeard, spoken in same way as Mihawk/Shanks rivalry. Clearly that means fighting in rocks pirates. Kaido only follows strong people. BM and WB were the only pirates apart from Rocks he listened to
It was implied Kaido and Xebec fighting would tear up the island like Shiki vs Garp and Sengoku. So probably low-mid diff. Admiral Jiaga who got side-quest diffed didnt even require that much
I mean you asked how we powerscaling Rocks pirates lol and their portrayal from top pirates seems to be solid. The moment WB had gura gura fruit was the moment Oda confirmed this is Primebeard or close to it
It was implied Kaido and Xebec fighting would tear up the island like Shiki vs Garp and Sengoku. So probably low-mid diff. Admiral Jiaga who got side-quest diffed didnt even require that much
I mean you asked how we powerscaling Rocks pirates lol and their portrayal from top pirates seems to be solid. The moment WB had gura gura fruit was the moment Oda confirmed this is Primebeard or close to it
Magellan ? No good feats/portrayal ?
He got dropped to his knees from a G2 punch (something that wouldn't even happen to base Jack) and is clearly very over reliant on his fruit
I don't know if he's weak but Oda hasn't shown that he's strong so far
Though then again I doubt Oda really cares about him especially given that we're in the end game and likely won't ever visit Impel Down again
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I don’t know chant you want for a guy to be considered strong lol
You have to keep in mind, King was rag dolling rooftop Zoro and took stronger attacks from him than an Awakened Zoan did and managed to be less hurt than said Awakened Zoan, yet I still have him at the top of high tiers along with Kata and Marco. If even he isn't an inbetweener in my book, despite having amazing feats and portrayal, why on earth would I randomly put Magellan on that level?
Magellan's only feat is defeating Ivankov, which is nice, but not nearly enough for me to put him on the level of people like Crocodile.
Like bruh...
I don't even hate Magellan (I don't like him either, though) but come on...
Also, either Magellan is a complete DF merchant and Shiryu cannot even handle some hakiless DF merchant with his swordsmanship or Magellan actually has other skills besides his DF...
Garp let himself get hit by Luffy and wasn't using Haki whatsoever, we've seen Garp manage to endure blows from Kuzan when he's actually on guard. We haven't seen a similar thing with Magellan.
We don't know how strong Shiryu was at the time when people compared him to Magellan, and even then it was just about how dangerous they were to the prisoners.
If Magellan has other skills besides the DF, he needs to PROVE that. I can't just put him on the same level as people like Croc or even Katakuri or Marco just because "well I'd like to believe he's not just a DF merchant who gets dropped to the floor by pre ts G2 Luffy", that's not how this works.
At the very least I need him to have great portrayal, but it'd really help if he also had better feats.
For now, I'm not even putting him at YC3 level. He needs to prove himself just like any other character would, it's not about how my opinion just won't change on him, it's about Oda not caring about his powerlevel.
If this were me going off a bias, then I'd also have the old legends above Oden, yet I don't. Doesn't mean Old Gaban isn't a far better character than Oden on every front.
We don't know how strong Shiryu was at the time when people compared him to Magellan, and even then it was just about how dangerous they were to the prisoners.
If Magellan has other skills besides the DF, he needs to PROVE that. I can't just put him on the same level as people like Croc or even Katakuri or Marco just because "well I'd like to believe he's not just a DF merchant who gets dropped to the floor by pre ts G2 Luffy", that's not how this works.
At the very least I need him to have great portrayal, but it'd really help if he also had better feats.
For now, I'm not even putting him at YC3 level. He needs to prove himself just like any other character would, it's not about how my opinion just won't change on him, it's about Oda not caring about his powerlevel.
If this were me going off a bias, then I'd also have the old legends above Oden, yet I don't. Doesn't mean Old Gaban isn't a far better character than Oden on every front.