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It shouldnt astound you. Even if you're a casual power scaler, you can notice that no High tier is capable of scarring Kaido or facing Hakai. In fact, not even top tiers are capable of it, including Joyboy who couldnt break a single dragon scale so no, Bajrang Gun isnt stronger.
If you think he can take off a limb, he can take off the head as well.
Good point with a dog/sword but I still wouldnt bet on Zombies since they got no soul or whatever is the source of DF.
Easily, Zoro from Fishman Island because that Zoro can face Hakai and scar Kaido while Yamato cant do either, not even with aCoC.
Placing people above Zoro just because they are buffing their attacks with aCoC is not wise.
If you think he can take off a limb, he can take off the head as well.
Good point with a dog/sword but I still wouldnt bet on Zombies since they got no soul or whatever is the source of DF.
Easily, Zoro from Fishman Island because that Zoro can face Hakai and scar Kaido while Yamato cant do either, not even with aCoC.
Placing people above Zoro just because they are buffing their attacks with aCoC is not wise.
Oh great, now guns/swords have souls, the NRA is gonna fuckin love this.
Interesting point with only Zoro being able to scar Kaido. Honestly... Oden and Zoro are the only two characters I ever felt were trying to "Kill Kaido": everyone else felt like they were trying to defeat him/didn't think they could actually win (hi, Kinemon, how are you doing?). That's why the Scabbards don't sit well with me right now, and I want them to have a redemption in Act 4: they talk about dying all the time, rather than trying to fucking live.
I understand your power-scaling with Zoro when it comes to Kaido, but I think you're putting too much emphasis into wounds/scars.
Luffy NEVER severely injures his opponents, while Zoro is the opposite. Look through the entire series. I can't remember Luffy scarring/dismembering an enemy. Luffy defeats characters by matching his dream against theirs, and coming out on top. He doesn't want to injure or main his enemies: just defeat them.
Zoro is completely different, which is WHY I think he will kill Kaido: Luffy defeats, Zoro kills. Zoro has killed plenty of people in this series. Luffy punched Charlos. Zoro was going to slice that creep in half.
Luffy doesn't fight by scarring/dismembering, so judging his power feats based off his ability to scar/dismember isn't sensible.
The biggest issue I have with Zoro vs Kaido is the CoC. Kaido's Raimei Hakke is so damn guard to guard, even Yamato, an Oni tank with CoC and a Mythical Zoan, couldn't handle it. You've got me thinking, though.
Interesting point with only Zoro being able to scar Kaido. Honestly... Oden and Zoro are the only two characters I ever felt were trying to "Kill Kaido": everyone else felt like they were trying to defeat him/didn't think they could actually win (hi, Kinemon, how are you doing?). That's why the Scabbards don't sit well with me right now, and I want them to have a redemption in Act 4: they talk about dying all the time, rather than trying to fucking live.
I understand your power-scaling with Zoro when it comes to Kaido, but I think you're putting too much emphasis into wounds/scars.
Luffy NEVER severely injures his opponents, while Zoro is the opposite. Look through the entire series. I can't remember Luffy scarring/dismembering an enemy. Luffy defeats characters by matching his dream against theirs, and coming out on top. He doesn't want to injure or main his enemies: just defeat them.
Zoro is completely different, which is WHY I think he will kill Kaido: Luffy defeats, Zoro kills. Zoro has killed plenty of people in this series. Luffy punched Charlos. Zoro was going to slice that creep in half.
Luffy doesn't fight by scarring/dismembering, so judging his power feats based off his ability to scar/dismember isn't sensible.
The biggest issue I have with Zoro vs Kaido is the CoC. Kaido's Raimei Hakke is so damn guard to guard, even Yamato, an Oni tank with CoC and a Mythical Zoan, couldn't handle it. You've got me thinking, though.
Do you really think Raimme Hakke is an issue for the one who can block Hakai?
Because he isnt capable of it, not even with Monkey God Gun. His peak is merely breaking a horn...
That's why he needs 200+ hits to down exhausted Kaido while Zoro most likely can do it in 1.
People dont understand what Oda is doing and that he keeps pairing Luffy with people who cant kill him with every hit.
There is no build-up for Zoro killing anyone aside from Kaido.
Because he isnt capable of it, not even with Monkey God Gun. His peak is merely breaking a horn...
That's why he needs 200+ hits to down exhausted Kaido while Zoro most likely can do it in 1.
People dont understand what Oda is doing and that he keeps pairing Luffy with people who cant kill him with every hit.
There is no build-up for Zoro killing anyone aside from Kaido.
Hard to scale Hakai because it wrecked Zoro, so I'm not sure how he'd fair against just Kaido. Still, Zoro blocking Hakai is BY FAR one of the most underrated and impressive feats in this series. Zoro was clearly top-tier going into the Raid, to me at this point (I was cagey earlier about placing him).
I mean, Luffy could become a sword fighter. He just doesn't fight like that. I can understand ranking Luffy's unwillingness to fight in a way that scars/wounds/dismembers enemies against him, though. Zoro's willingness/ability to cut people's limbs off is definitely an advantage in a lot of fights.
Do you think Luffy's CoC can block Zoro with full power Enma at this point?
I mean, Luffy could become a sword fighter. He just doesn't fight like that. I can understand ranking Luffy's unwillingness to fight in a way that scars/wounds/dismembers enemies against him, though. Zoro's willingness/ability to cut people's limbs off is definitely an advantage in a lot of fights.
Do you think Luffy's CoC can block Zoro with full power Enma at this point?
No, I think Luffy can injure Kaido like that, he just doesn't want to. Luffy could severely injure enemies, he just doesn't want to. IMO, might have to do with Shanks losing his arm: Luffy doesn't like seeing people get permanently injured.
If we get a Luffy/Zoro split-the-sky-clash with Conqueror's, I'm gonna cum.
If we get a Luffy/Zoro split-the-sky-clash with Conqueror's, I'm gonna cum.
There are no greater times in the One Piece community than those when people bet against Zoro and we have been blessed to experience it for the second time in the same arc. The first wave came before the rooftop, when agenda-driven folks were sure that Zoro will not fight Kaido, will not cut Kaido and will not scar Kaido. We told them they were digging their graves. They did not listen. The inevitable happened on the rooftop and some of the anti-ZKK members disappeared without a trace, never to be seen again.
Some of them cried and blamed the author, claiming he ruined his own work with Zoro shining brighter than all his team members together.
Their desperate times ended with celebration starting anew with first signs that Zoro would be leaving the roof after he faced the mighty Hakai.
Some of them returned, some returned on alt accounts, showing their heads only after they felt security that Zoro and Kaido will not meet again.
The raid succeeded, Kaido and Big Mom ended up defeated and the Anti-ZKK "gentlemen" felt the security they longed for all these years...
The confirmation that Wano is ending in 1053 gave them wind in their backs from which they still havent recovered, even after it was debunked.
Once again, we find ourselves in the wave of the Zoro doubters, the second coming.
Agenda-driven, attention-seeking, bait posts are daily occurrences. Once again, the clueless ones are betting against Zoro.
Failing with Zoro all these years wasnt enough, they seek more failure. And more failure shall they get!
The happiness that Wano was ending in 1053 lasted short, too short so I shall remind you once again why Wano ending is a delusion.
Kaido was defeated before, it didnt stop him. He was imprisoned before, it didnt stop him. He was sentenced to executions, it didnt stop him.
All that Joyboy managed was sent to sleep Kaido who pulled an all-nighter against 15 people. We are 7 days already into Kaido's recovery.
And Big Mom's recovery as well. Neither of the Emperors is done yet.
We shall take a look at Wano plotlines that are still lingering unfinshed:
1. Why did the borders remain closed and what will open them?
2. What about Toki? What was her purpose?
3. What about Toki's prophecy and Dawn?
4. What about invading WG forces/Navy battleship?
5. What's the fate of Kaido and Big Mom?
6. Why is Kaido in Wano specifically?
7. What about Kaido's road poneglyph?
8. What about citizens of the capital never getting to see anything?
9. What about Sukiyaki/Hitetsu purpose?
10. What about Wano's special ore and kairoseki production?
11. What about passing down PG inscription knowledge?
12. What about Kidd and Law going forward?
13. What about Queen Mama's Chanter?
14. Why is an Admiral showing up in "last" chapter?
15. What have the samurai themselves accomplished in this arc?
16. What about why the borders of Wano closed in the first place?
17. What about the Awakening of Kaido and BM?
18. What about Alber waiting for Joyboy?
19. What about Scabbards still living in delusions that Oden Nittoryu is the greatest?
20. What about Kaido's actual flashback?
21. What about Wano the city of gold? Who plundered it dry?
22. What have we actually learned in Wano that we didnt know before? What was the big reveal of the arc?
As you may have already realized by now, Wano is far from finished. And I didnt even mention Zoro yet.
Speaking of Mosshead, we shall soon see what plotlines he still has lingering unfinished in this arc.
After 7 days of time skip, we find ourselves in the same situation as before it.
Another festival, another night, another threat and another incoming dawn. With Kaido's return, we are back to square one.
Is it a coincidence? I am sure Anti-ZKK folks will grab onto the Yes option. Is it, though?
The 7 days have passed and all the ZKK build-up didn't go anywhere, it didn't vaporize into thin air. The delusions cant bury it.
If you pretend or genuinely dont know and ask what build-up, remind yourself:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/samurai-and-dragons.25189/
1. Speaking of Samurai and Dragons, how did it end, who is superior? The dragon? Is Oda suddenly changing his mind on that matter?
2. When has Zoro wished to cut something and ultimately failed to do it to his own satisfaction?
3. When has the main goal of the country - opening borders - remained unfinished before?
4. What about Zoro doing what Oden couldnt, forging Enma black? Is the king who rules the underworld finally satisfied with Zoro?
5. What about 2nd generation of swords that nobody wants, Nidai Kitetsu?
6. What about Zoro's revenge for friendly oddball Yasu?
7. What about Zoro's identical looks with both the Sword God and Shimotsuki Ushimaru?
8. What about Yamato not noticing the resemblance?
9. What about Zoro's payoff for the near-death experience when the haki blooms?
10. What about Zoro and Hiyori plotline?
11. What about Shusui and Ryuma's grave?
12. What about rounding up the samurai?
13. What about showing the world that Santoryu rules supreme?
14. What about cutting Kaido into pieces?
15. What about Ushimaru's companion Onimaru?
16. What about the Admiral who supposedly has Black Blade? Coming to show it to Luffy?
17. Who shall restore the fear of samurai of Wano kuni?
18. What about Kaido being unkillable and not being debunked?
19. Who is the monster samurai?
20. What about Zoro's name reaching the heavens, as promised?
Sure, beating Mihawk, who no other swordsman could beat, is impressive but nothing is Big News, worthy of heavens, as killing the unkillable.
Why did the one guy who didnt have enough firepower to kill Kaido, receive firepower aCoC boost? We just saw it isnt necessary for King.
So many questions lead to the same answer - ZKK!
To all Anti-ZKK bros - keep betting against the one who shouldnt be bet against.
To my buddy from Crying Six - Dont disappear again. @kurwa
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Lol people keep saying “cope”? Like what is there to cope about? We are still in wano and greenbull has been revealed with what looks to be a black blade. That’s a statement by Oda himself. Oda is preparing to wank zoro very hard. I’m glad that the arrogance will be put in its place, it’s just out of hand these days. Sanjino fans need to grow up and actually understand who is writing the story… Not them.
Also kaido and big mom will return, that’s 110% guarantee’d
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No, I'm saying Luffy doesn't fight to injure. He fights to defeat. That's the difference between Luffy and Zoro: Luffy isn't trying to rip your arm off, or stab your eye out. He wants to 1v1 you and defeat you straight up, then move on after he's punched you into the ground. Luffy's not weaker, he's just less lethal. Luffy is a happy dude that just wants people to be free and smile. Zoro is a beast who wants to push his powers to their furthest extent, and has no problem killing someone who messed with him. I don't think Luffy's weaker than Zoro, he's just more of a pacifist. Does that make sense?
They prayed so hard for Oda to finish the arc with chapter 1053, even with all these plot lines not answered.
"He'll answer them in another arc."....right He'll answer questions about ryuma, samurais, dragon slaying, swords etc in elbaf or in the final war
As a famous eunuch once said, "what's dead may never die"....Kaido will though.
Where was my invite to this thread though?
"He'll answer them in another arc."....right He'll answer questions about ryuma, samurais, dragon slaying, swords etc in elbaf or in the final war
As a famous eunuch once said, "what's dead may never die"....Kaido will though.
Where was my invite to this thread though?
