General & Others The supernovas are overrated

[Tai long]

Nobody talks about the supernovas in the new world, the only strong supernovas are the ones on the roof the rest are trash.
Urouge fought snacks, even though he won he was pretty banged up from the fight
Big father's rank in the bmp was far lower than Prospero, he wasn't even a minister
Appo one shot material for everyone on the roof
Drake the only beast pirate that over use is ugly hybrid form.

 

[Blother Fertitta]

Supernova were throwaway characters from the jump.

From what’s been shown so far I only think Luffy, Zoro, Kidd, Law, and Bonney will have strong ties to the story.

And X Drake if it were not for the fact that he is a Marine.

I think Bege, Urouge?, Hawkins, Apoo are done.

Apoo has done plenty this arc. And Bege already gained extensive notoriety just be association to Luffy.

In the end it’s, how can the Supernova make Luffy look great, and not how can the Supernova look great.

 

[Trafalgar_D_Law]

Half the group generational talent

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Most of them are/were overrated by the fandom. But they are still among the strongest pirates in the New World.
You have to understand that YC are the best thing after Yonko title in the pirate world. So most of them being under or close to YC is not bad.

You can't expect all of them to be Luffy's level, that was never intended. They were just suppose to cause more trouble to the Yonko than other generations of pirates. And they are.

 

[Fuckthis3]

Agree and Apoo one shot material for luffy who he oneshotted love that one piece powerscaling nun but facts

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

Wth is this guy talking about. Bege and Uruge were considered the weakest SN pre-ts. Uruge beat a 4th commander and can easily be considered as 3rd commander level himself. Think of it this way, a 3rd commander level fighter has a billion Berry bounty and can fight against the entire mink tribe alone. Bege planned to kill a fucking yonko! If anything, the supernovas exceeded my expectations. Nobody talks about supernovas in the NW =>

 

[Cinera]

Urouge fought snacks, even though he won he was pretty banged up from the fight

No, he was banged up from fighting Cracker and the Enraged Army.

Urouge beat Snack with enough ease to fight Cracker and the Enraged Army and escape with his life.

Big father's rank in the bmp was far lower than Prospero, he wasn't even a minister

• Big Father withstood several bloodlusted punches from Mama.
• It took Perospero and Katakuri working together to neutralise it.

Appo one shot material for everyone on the roof

Apoo stood up after being cut down by an Iaijutsu from Zoro and stood up again after being chomped on by Drake.

Drake the only beast pirate that over use is ugly hybrid form.

This is a stupid argument.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Big father's rank in the bmp was far lower than Prospero, he wasn't even a minister
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Ministers aren’t lower ranks the man Rooks... Fuckin Chiffon was a minister... Are you saying Chiffon had a higher rand than Capone

 

[Finalbeta]

It depends on whom we are even discussing about I presume.

Is Zoro overrated? I don't think he is most of the time. Because for all we could say he could even stand close to yonko level right now for example.

Is Kidd overrated? Well I don't think so. Hype and portrayal suggest he should rank third amongst all novas right now.

 

[Droopy]

2 scabbards shat on a 3rd yc

9 scabbards got beaten by base kaido

5 supernovas forced kaido to enter hybrid mode, while he is assisted by big mom

yet supernovas are overrated, lol

 

[Zowo]

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2 scabbards shat on a 3rd yc

9 scabbards got beat by base kaido

5 supernovas forced kaido to enter hybrid mode, while he is assisted by big mom

yet supernovas are overrated, lol

scabbards couldnt even react to kaido s invisible slashes kiku got her arm and sword cut meanwhile supernovas treat the wind slashes like fodder moves

 

[Buusatan94]

Poor Supernovas were victims of a marketing move, they could have been serious competitors and rivals if the race wasn't so much in Luffy and the Straw Hats' favor but given the royal treatment that they have it was never going to happen.

It's been obvious since Dressrosa that the Supernovas weren't real competitors and that only Blackbeard is a true rival to Luffy.

 

[Finalbeta]

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scabbards couldnt even react to kaido s invisible slashes kiku got her arm and sword cut meanwhile supernovas treat the wind slashes like fodder moves

Indeed. Oda was clear in portraying Kaido's vast superiority. And it took a few moves.

The Scabbards could take on a low-mid end calamity, but I can't see much better.

 

[Lukegranders]

Wrong Oda already debunked that even making a character say at big incidents you will find a member from this generation

Kidd by Odas own words will be important and we already seen that multiple times. Law already is. Bonney already has ties to kuma somehow and will be tied into the bigger plot. Urouge is definitely gonna tie into the bigger plot. I can go on but it’s stupid for you to also use the logic Oda came up with them because an editor suggestion.

1. One piece was supposed to end in like alabasta and there was never gonna be yonko but only war lords

2. Akainu was supposed to die in marineford

3. Shanks was not supposed to lose his arm

4. Doflamingo was supposed to be in wano


They will all be or at least most important to the story. Trafalgar law had a whole arc centered around him for example.


stop only applying this logic to the supernovas but not any other character.

Yonko wasn’t even supposed to be a thing yet wano is the most built up hyped up arc in the series to date 8.5+ years of build up

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Supernovas are outdated. So many of them failed and lost. I think Wanos the time for the losers (apoo, Hawkins, Bege, Urouge) to be finally separated from those who aren’t

 

[Dsranime]

Yeah a little bit overrated.
The problem with the Worst Generation is that because of their relevance in the story and the fact that they are recurring characters, fans give them a lot more hype and credit than a character that his only relevant for an arc.

If for example I say that characters like Perospero, Pica, Vergo, Sasaki, Who's Who, Ichiji, Ashura Doji and Denjiro stand a chance in a 1 vs 1 fight and can possible defeat Supernovas like Bonnie, Apoo, Capone, Hawkins, Killer, Drake. Fans think that is crazy and stupid only because they are part of the Supernovas (Worst Gen.), and not because their feats are insanely impressive.

 

[Midnight Delight]

Supernovas are outdated. So many of them failed and lost. I think Wanos the time for the losers (apoo, Hawkins, Bege, Urouge) to be finally separated from those who aren’t

Don't compare Urouge to those Three, he is the only supernova besides Kidd and Luffy Zoro and Killer who isn't a massive pussy

 

[Mochiman]

Most of them are/were overrated by the fandom. But they are still among the strongest pirates in the New World.
You have to understand that YC are the best thing after Yonko title in the pirate world. So most of them being under or close to YC is not bad.

You can't expect all of them to be Luffy's level, that was never intended. They were just suppose to cause more trouble to the Yonko than other generations of pirates. And they are.

I think their problem is too much hype from fans, as you say. We know they are pirates with reputation in the NW, but I still see them inferior not only to YC, but to most Warlords (at least Law, my favorite SN, became Warlord and increased his reputation). But yeah, most of them only exist to prove that Luffy and the SHP are the best pirate crew of their generation.

 

[Midnight Delight]

I think their problem is too much hype from fans, as you say. We know they are pirates with reputation in the NW, but I still see them inferior not only to YC, but to most Warlords (at least Law, my favorite SN, became Warlord and increased his reputation). But yeah, most of them only exist to prove that Luffy and the SHP are the best pirate crew of their generation.

Oda originally planned for most of them to die during the Timeskip then decided he liked their designs too much

 

[Mochiman]

Oda originally planned for most of them to die during the Timeskip then decided he liked their designs too much

I didn't know that. Interesting. Even so, you can tell that Oda is more fond of the Warlords than the SN. The former have always been made to look cool and the latter have been humiliated or barely developed as characters. The only exception is Law, who coincidentally became Warlord after the timeskip.
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I think the SNs Oda was planning to kill are Urouge, Bege, Apoo and Hawkins. The rest would have survived. Law and Kid stood out in Sabaody, Killer is a member of Kid's crew, Bonney is going to have a major role at some point and X Drake has his subplot as an undercover SWORD agent.