Future Events The war will continue to Wano mainland

[ImmaIvanoM]

I don't know if I'm the only one who's noticed this but I see it as almost obvious that this War will continue to Wano mainland. Here are multiple that things that can't be resolved in Onigashima.

1. Momonosuke has to acquire Ame no habikiri from Tenguyama and use it in battle

2. Kanjuro has to try and kill Hiyori

3. Hiyori has to try and kill Orochi

4. O-Tama and her smile subjugating DF must play a part in this war and she's still on the mainland.

5. O-Tama and O-Lin and the memory loss has to have some payoff.

6. Multiple regions of Wano have barely been shown such as Mt. Fuji and Kibi

7. Ryuma and Shusui could matter somehow in this arc so the war will continue to Ryuma’s temple.

8. Hawkins says luffy has an A month in Wano and we are still on the second week

 

[Mr. Anderson]

Alot of these options can be resolved by having all of these people come in as surprise reinforcements along with nekomamushi.

Have Hiyori bring the other blade etc. etc.

It's even possible to have the fox play a part as a reinforcement and bring Shisui with him. He is affiliated with Ryuma's family.

I still not even sure how they would escape back to the mainland. They arent bulldozing through Kaido's forces right now, their smack dab in enemy territory and sunk their own ships. Completely surrounded and outnumbered. Oda ain't got no choice but to have all of these elements be brought to onishigama lol.

 

[Garp the Fist]

Luffy with Momo vs Kaido will go back to the mainland for the grand finale. Zoro maybe as well so he can cut down his dragon over the Flower Capital. Most of the war is happening on Onigashima, here and now though, hence the sinking of the ships and them timing the war to coincide with the full moon for the Minks

 

[Buusatan94]

It will most likely end in Wano Mainland, this has been my opinion and of others.
I Don't think that Kaido and Orochi will be defeated without the people of Wano seeing them for what they truly and regaining hope of seeing them being defeated after so many years of thinking that Kaido couldn't be defeated similar to how the people of Cocoyashi and Dressrosa were present during Arlong and Doflamingo's defeats.

Plus as you said Tama has to be involved in the final war with her df and her potential connection with Big Mom playing a role. Hitetsu may also play a role with his knowledge and smithing skills and Nidai Kitetsu.

 

[dizzy2341]

Yep, I fully believe the war will continue on Wano mainland. The "defeat stage" always happens in big battle arcs, where they get crushed, retreat, make plans and come back for the final battle.

Whilst they could get defeated on Onigashima, they've got no retreat on that island. In order to fall back and recuperate, they'd need to return to Wano.

I mentioned this in another thread, but there's even a hanging gag:

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Chopper's gonna have some interaction with this guy. The fact that Oda went out of his way to foreshadow this all the way back from chapter 915 suggests he probably has some idea of a plot relating to this, otherwise he could've just introduced his love for raccoon dog in the moment of the gag.

Maybe Urashima ends up helping. We've already seen he was afraid of Zoro. Plus they're gonna need reinforcements for round 2 after everyone gets clapped at Onigashima.

I think the sinking of the ships last chapter makes it even more likely that there's gonna be a part 2 of the battle. Oda's hammering in, "it's do or die", "this is the last chance". So when they ultimately fail, it's gonna hit that much harder realising they have no escape route. But like I said, I think that's when reinforcements are gonna arrive, Neko, Grand Fleet (?) etc. and let the allies escape on their ships back to mainland Wano.

They will have done some damage on Onigashima but the final battles will take at both Onigashima and Wano. Luffy and Kaido's battle will be too large scale so it would need to take place on Onigashima as to not destroy Wano country. Maybe the calamity fights too. Orochi's battle needs to be in the capital. After Drake leaves Kaido's crew, I can see the remaining 5 of the Flying 6 fighting a straw hat in a different region of Wano each.

As to how the Straw Hats are going to have time on Wano to recover after their Onigashima defeat, that could be as a result of BM betraying the weakened beast pirates and attempting to finish them off there, coincidentally giving the allies time. Or if the marines or anyone else were to show up it would be the same result.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

I see the raid in onigashima as a parallel to enies lobby. I don't think the alliance will lose.

They're not going back by swimming. Like @Mr. Anderson suggested maybe some of them will come with the help of neko who hasn't arrived yet.

The main protagonists are on onigashima island, there are a lot of people from wano to witness kaido's and orochi's downfall.

They will fight their way in the battlefield until they meet their final opponents. And then win after extreme diff fights.

And then the people from the main land will either come to have the banquet since there should be a lot of food and drinks in onigashima right now or the alliance will bring it all to the main land.

 

[Paperchampion23]

I see where you were going with the 8th point but its not finished lol.

Hawkins says Luffy has a 19% chance to survive the month. Its been 2 weeks at Onigashima, something may happen where another week or 2 will pass between Acts 3 and 4. The last 2 act breaks involved a timeskip each.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Alot of these options can be resolved by having all of these people come in as surprise reinforcements along with nekomamushi.

Have Hiyori bring the other blade etc. etc.

It's even possible to have the fox play a part as a reinforcement and bring Shisui with him. He is affiliated with Ryuma's family.

I still not even sure how they would escape back to the mainland. They arent bulldozing through Kaido's forces right now, their smack dab in enemy territory and sunk their own ships. Completely surrounded and outnumbered. Oda ain't got no choice but to have all of these elements be brought to onishigama lol.

How is Nekomamushi involved in bringing tama or Hiyori to onigashima?

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

elp of neko

How does Neko know about tama and why would he bring Hiyori into the battlefield?

 

[Mr. Anderson]

How is Nekomamushi involved in bringing tama or Hiyori to onigashima?

I never said Nekomamushi himself would bring Hiyori or Tama to Onishigama, so I dont think that's a question i have to answer lol

 

[Luffy is the mc]

How does Neko know about tama and why would he bring Hiyori into the battlefield?

If she asks for it. They can sneak inside his boat if he goes to the mainland first.
Or they can't come with other citizens who also decide they want to fight.

Or they can come after the battle.

Or kanjuro can be sent on a mission and he captures her and brings her to onigashima.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

I never said Nekomamushi himself would bring Hiyori or Tama to Onishigama, so I dont think that's a question i have to answer lol

Okay. Do how do Hiyori and tama get involved in the war?

 

[Zenos7]

8. Hawkins says luffy has an A month in Wano and we are still on the second week

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Hawkins does not say anything like that though.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

If she asks for it. They can sneak inside his boat if he goes to the mainland first.
Or they can't come with other citizens who also decide they want to fight.

Or they can come after the battle.

Or kanjuro can be sent on a mission and he captures her and brings her to onigashima.

Well nekomamushi knows nothing about Hiyori so there's that.

And kanjuro has to try and kill Hiyori but he will fail of course.

And Nekomamushi knows nothing about tama as well

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Well nekomamushi knows nothing about Hiyori so there's that.

And kanjuro has to try and kill Hiyori but he will fail of course.

And Nekomamushi knows nothing about tama as well

Yes that's why I said she would sneak into the boat.
And tama doesn't have to come to onigashima anyway. I was just trying to guess how it would be possible.
Kanjuro doesn't have to kill hiyori, he can be sent just to kidnap her.

My point is that the final battle will be in onigashima, they can't run away. The only ones missing are neko and his reinforcements.

 

[Buusatan94]

This is the second round against Kaido, which may be similar to Luffy's second fights against Crocodile and Katakuri with him faring much better than the first time before being beaten again. The third and last one will happens on the mainland with more actors and stronger supernovas.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

This is the second round against Kaido, which may be similar to Luffy's second fights against Crocodile and Katakuri with him faring much better than the first time before being beaten again. The third and last one will happens on the mainland with more actors and stronger supernovas.

But there were only 2 rounds against lucci, katakuri, moriah, enel, one against hody.

Croc is the only one who got 3 rounds actually and the raid on onigashima looks more like enies lobby scenario than Alabasta.

 

[KiriNigiri]

Kaido is a flying, fire breathing dragon. Oda's gonna take full advantage of that. Staying confined in one closed off space deep under Onigashima does him no justice.

 

[Buusatan94]

But there were only 2 rounds against lucci, katakuri, moriah, enel, one against hody.

Croc is the only one who got 3 rounds actually and the raid on onigashima looks more like enies lobby scenario than Alabasta.

There were 3 rounds against Katakuri, not 2. And Kaido is a Yonko just as Crocodile was the first warlord who fought Luffy and even if the alliance manages to hurt him it will surely not be enough to defeat him similar to how Luffy learning on how to hurt Crocodile and Katakuri was not enough the second time he fought them.

 

[Paperchampion23]

I think the idea comes from the fact that Kaido didn't even try when he knocked Luffy out in one hit, while Luffy truly tried to hurt him.

Yes, Luffy now has the power to damage Kaido internally, but we have yet to see any remote idea of Kaido even remotely getting serious. What happens when Luffy damages Kaido? What happens when Kaido gets serious? Kaido's hybrid form? Kaido's possible Zoan Awakening? Luffy has been pretty overconfident with this one and I almost expect him to lose at least one more time because of it.