Because CP0 reported that Luffy didnt defeat Kaido single handedly. And we know that how others helped in that fight.
This is the reason why Law and Kid's bounty is the same as Luffy.
Multiple support characters + Luffy against Kaido.
Law and Kid against Big Mom.
So it makes sense if they have similar bounty. It is the only logical thing Oda did in this arc.
The worst thing is I am still giving Shanks credit saying he would be worth 2 Billion without Yonko title since 12 years ago before Mihawk's bounty was even frozen he was worth 1 Billion. @notAfanboy
His strength is still worth a bit over half of Mihawk's he can still give Mihawk like a mid diff fight.
How much more greedy can you get for the man who got his arm eaten by lord of the cost and the man who lost to Non Commander teach?
Because CP0 reported that Luffy didnt defeat Kaido single handedly. And we know that how others helped in that fight.
This is the reason why Law and Kid's bounty is the same as Luffy.
Multiple support characters + Luffy against Kaido.
Law and Kid against Big Mom.
So it makes sense if they have similar bounty. It is the only logical thing Oda did in this arc.
Also because Luffy's strength is maybe worth 1.2 Billion and Mihawk can beat him with a butter knife.
Since with strong ass crew leader of alliance all his pirate accomplishments etc got him 3 billion while Mihawk didn't even have a bounty for 16 years.
yes, but does mihawk do that? as far as wg sees, buggy influence is greater than mihawk which is ex-roger crew, impeldowm escapee and misunderstood as a leader of cross guild.
That's entire headcannon lol
It's worse If you have to pay someone to prevent him to attack you
Kaido isn't nicknamed like that whereas Mihawk is known for that
Headcannon. I challenge you to show where it was stated
The non factor is smiles
Kaido is known for his strenght way before that
Nothing states those artificial df did affect Kaido's bounty
Straight UP headcannon
Kaido is stated in databooks to be from the same generation than Shanks lol
Just 1bn lol
Not stated by Brannew to have affected Kaido's bounty
Buggy did yet he still had a low bounty
BB too
Facts are Kaido's bounty is stated to be entirely because of his strenght by Brannew yet he have 1bn more
1. Again. Kaido was going to be recruited. His people was selling him. The marines wanted him. It's worse. What's worse. Someone attacking you that you openly want to kill or someone attacking you thay you want to recruit and thus you keep letting him doing it without trying to kill him?
2. He is kaido of 100 beasts. His Thiel suggests he has an army of zoans. So that is not headcanon
3. Simpleton Shanks was a baby when garp and rodger attack the rock pirates. Kaido is easily 17 to 20 years older than shanks. Which means he had more time to make a name for himself in comparison to Shanks and mihawk yet he only has a billion over mihawk who has nothing and is recognized for nothing that kaido has. Only strength
4. Are you dense? It was stated that kaidos military might with beast was one of those reasons.
It mentions him being rocks pirates as well as him being captain of 100 beasts. Stop your bullshit next time
How has Shanks helped Marine lmao?
By sucking Gorosei dick?
Then why does Shanks have a bounty at all?
Why was Mihawk hunting Marines for his day job and Marines still froze his bounty but gave Shanks 4 Billion anyways?
If he is such a helper why not freeze his bounty?
FFS you are pulling all the head canon out of your ass.
Read chapter 957 Tell me what is the reason given to us for Shanks bounty Shanks has very strong and famous commanders
Shanks has been a yonko for 6 Years
Shanks has the most balanced Crew
Shanks has the territory
eViDeNCE iN mY fAvOr
May as well say earth is flat and deny evolution by pulling random ass garbage out your ass an saying I got the evidence. You probably do deny evolution don't you?
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HIs influence is below Mihawk's becasue Mihawk neg diffs him
The worst thing is I am still giving Shanks credit saying he would be worth 2 Billion without Yonko title since 12 years ago before Mihawk's bounty was even frozen he was worth 1 Billion. @notAfanboy
His strength is still worth a bit over half of Mihawk's he can still give Mihawk like a mid diff fight.
How much more greedy can you get for the man who got his arm eaten by lord of the cost and the man who lost to Non Commander teach?
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Also because Luffy's strength is maybe worth 1.2 Billion and Mihawk can beat him with a butter knife.
Since with strong ass crew leader of alliance all his pirate accomplishments etc got him 3 billion while Mihawk didn't even have a bounty for 16 years.
Mihawk against Luffy? He could not land a hit on pre-timeskip Luffy at Marine Ford, who in their right mind would say that Mihawk can even touch post-awakening/Nika, AdCoC, AdCoO, AdCoA/Ryu Luffy? Only you! Or insecure Zoro fans, lmao.
I mean if you hadn't been insulting and foaming in the mouth this entire time we could have had the civil conversation but seems like now you are down to have one.
World Government, in particular Gorosei seems to have some kinda inner deal with Shanks but based on the way Shanks pulled up covered in Black Burka, it seems fairly certain that his relationship with Gorosei happens behind the scenes and it isn't public knowledge that Shanks and Gorosei work together
But bounties are assigned by the World based on public perception of the individual, based on how WG wants the world to see the individual. Hence why Kobra and Vivi had no bounty despite Imu wanting their asses dead.
So when assigning bounties we have to look at reasoning for bounties
Shanks reasons were -Been a Yonko for 6 Years -Most balanced Yonko Crew
-Very strong and famous commanders
-Being a leader of Red Hair Pirates
-Very famous commanders
Sure strength would play a factor but the strength portrayal is not in same class as Mihawk where his reason for 3.6 Bounty is simply because of how strong he is.
Mihawk against Luffy? He could not land a hit on pre-timeskip Luffy at Marine Ford, who in their right mind would say that Mihawk can even touch post-awakening/Nika, AdCoC, AdCoO, AdCoA/Ryu Luffy? Only you! Or insecure Zoro fans, lmao.
This is the peak of insanity.
Imagine Shanks getting fucked up by pre Yami teach.
Yami teach must neg diff current Shanks right?
There goes your Shanks fan boy brain.
You seriously think 3.6 Billion Belly man went all out on Pre Time skip Luffy and failed to land a hit where as Zoro can land hits on people stronger than Katakuri and Doflamingo?
The fact that you can even use Marine Ford for scaling shows how dishonest you actually are.
Luffy and all his accomplishments his crew is worth 3 Billion
For Mihawk's bounty to make sense
Mihawk should be able to solo all of straw hat pirates by himself
Mihawk vs Entire Straw hat pirate crew = Mihawk solos.
For the record Mihawk nearly took out Luffy's arms
Same Luffy could deal with Admirals and get away.
And this is EXTREMELY casual Mihawk not even tyring one bit.
He is literally hoping Luffy lives so he can understand what is so special about Luffy.
I mean if you hadn't been insulting and foaming in the mouth this entire time we could have had the civil conversation but seems like now you are down to have one.
World Government, in particular Gorosei seems to have some kinda inner deal with Shanks but based on the way Shanks pulled up covered in Black Burka, it seems fairly certain that his relationship with Gorosei happens behind the scenes and it isn't public knowledge that Shanks and Gorosei work together
But bounties are assigned by the World based on public perception of the individual, based on how WG wants the world to see the individual. Hence why Kobra and Vivi had no bounty despite Imu wanting their asses dead.
So when assigning bounties we have to look at reasoning for bounties
Shanks reasons were -Been a Yonko for 6 Years
-Most balanced Yonko Crew
-Very strong and famous commanders
-Being a leader of Red Hair Pirates
-Very famous commanders
Sure strength would play a factor but the strength portrayal is not in same class as Mihawk where his reason for 3.6 Bounty is simply because of how strong he is.
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This is the peak of insanity.
Imagine Shanks getting fucked up by pre Yami teach.
Yami teach must neg diff current Shanks right?
There goes your Shanks fan boy brain.
You seriously think 3.6 Billion Belly man went all out on Pre Time skip Luffy and failed to land a hit where as Zoro can land hits on people stronger than Katakuri and Doflamingo?
The fact that you can even use Marine Ford for scaling shows how dishonest you actually are.
Luffy and all his accomplishments his crew is worth 3 Billion
For Mihawk's bounty to make sense
Mihawk should be able to solo all of straw hat pirates by himself
Mihawk vs Entire Straw hat pirate crew = Mihawk solos.
For the record Mihawk nearly took out Luffy's arms
Same Luffy could deal with Admirals and get away.
And this is EXTREMELY casual Mihawk not even tyring one bit.
He is literally hoping Luffy lives so he can understand what is so special about Luffy.
Dont mind any of that, you were not polite either, lol.
You are right about Shanks and the secret deal.
Now that you mentioned it, lets call it quits.
Apologies for going over board.
Lets have this discussion again when Oda actually show true strength of both characters.
Sure but at least be a little even handed and honest with our arguments.
Suggesting Mihawk would have any kinda trouble at all disposing pre time skip Luffy when Zoro just stomped Someone who can take out 100 Pre time skip luffys is no better than me saying Lord of the coast > Shanks
When Shanks was the only challenger for him. So, what's the point? I am not against Shanks < Mihawk, but you are discrediting Shanks bounty on wrong basis.
Sure but at least be a little even handed and honest with our arguments.
Suggesting Mihawk would have any kinda trouble at all disposing pre time skip Luffy when Zoro just stomped Someone who can take out 100 Pre time skip luffys is no better than me saying Lord of the coast > Shanks
I know that, but Mihawk had no reason to stop against Vista. It was just Oda's shenanigans. Do you think Mihawk would stop against weaker opponents? He had no issue showing Zoro his place. You see, I always called MF bad in terms of character portrayal. People talk about its hype and larger impact on OP verse, but forget about the problems it created. I wont list them here, but iykyk.
hawk had no reason to stop against Vista. It was just Oda's shenanigans. Do you think Mihawk would stop against weaker opponents? He had no issue showing Zoro his place. You see, I always called MF bad in terms of character portrayal. People talk about its hype and larger impact on OP verse, but forget about the problems it created. I wont list them here, but iykyk.
Well plot induced stupidity aside for Mihawk Oda gave enough subtleties that always gets ignored.
Mihawk came to Marine Ford to fight Whitebeard otherwise even if he chose to not attend the war, Marines don't have balls to go after him, they paid him to stop the Marine hunting.
He came to Marine Ford to fight Whitebeard and first thing he does is notice decline in Whitebeard "True distance between that man and us (like everyone else in the world) seems rather small" basically suggesting whitebeard isn't as strong as he thought whitebeard would be and Mihawk lost interest and moved on to Luffy.
Luffy's combat strength is irrelevant to Mihawk, he just wanted to test luffy and realized Luffy's real strength is his ability to form allies. He wasn't tryna kill Luffy otherwise its 2 second job, but instead to figure out his special ability and he already figured it out
Do you realize fighting a commander without looking and even focusing mentally is a feat on its own? Big Mom would get cut in this situation. She had to fully focus on Marco, who is more or less same level as Vista.
But after realizing Luffy's ability Mihawk had no real interest in pursuing Luffy, he was just throwing random slashes at him.
Notice how Mihawk just tells Sengoku Akainu and everyone else to their face he's going home when it wasn't time yet.
Marines were sending ships etc to capture your regular warlords, Mihawk gave zero fucks.
His subtle portrayal was always top tier. He comes to not partake in the war but to fight Whitebeard to get a challenge.
Imagine twisting the manga.
Vista is literally confirmed to have some position in crew as Marco in datebooks and he's proud of the fact that Mihawk has even heard his name..like a true fan boy and then Mihawk treats him like a little kid and fights him without even looking at him.
Compare that to Shanks losing to not even a commander and then bragging about that pathetic scar to whitebeard.
And what about Big Mom running away from Marco like a little bitch after getting embarrassed??
What about kinnemon drilling at least 20 new ass holes into Kaido??
If you show me kinnemon level character landing a hit on Mihawk like they can on Big Mom Kaido and Shanks I'll take your point
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Kaido would be worth 2.5 billion for his strength
If mihawk chose to kill Buggy and take that very pathetic yonko title he would be worth 6 billion
1. Again. Kaido was going to be recruited. His people was selling him. The marines wanted him. It's worse. What's worse. Someone attacking you that you openly want to kill or someone attacking you thay you want to recruit and thus you keep letting him doing it without trying to kill him?
2. He is kaido of 100 beasts. His Thiel suggests he has an army of zoans. So that is not headcanon
3. Simpleton Shanks was a baby when garp and rodger attack the rock pirates. Kaido is easily 17 to 20 years older than shanks. Which means he had more time to make a name for himself in comparison to Shanks and mihawk yet he only has a billion over mihawk who has nothing and is recognized for nothing that kaido has. Only strength
4. Are you dense? It was stated that kaidos military might with beast was one of those reasons.
It mentions him being rocks pirates as well as him being captain of 100 beasts. Stop your bullshit next time
Any top tier can be above Kaido if they show better feats in future but for now Kaido has best portrayal and best feats out of current living character. That being said Mihawk/Shanks/Dragon has higher chance of being above Kaido than other characters. BB is a given of course
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