Character Discussion Thoughts on Killer

#82
You should show me the panel in which Killer deliberatily chooses those scythes, not the other way around. Manga proves my facts that he was nerfed, you're stating the opposite and bringing headcanons to prove it. I don't know if I should laugh at you or ignore you.
Bring me here the panel in which Killer "did'n bother to use his signature weapons" then
Nah, the ones who claimed that he was "nerfed" should be the one to bring the panel. Burden of proof is on you.
You think luffy was nerfed just because he didn't use king kong gun against kaido? Answer that.
 
#83
Nah, the ones who claimed that he was "nerfed" should be the one to bring the panel. Burden of proof is on you.
You think luffy was nerfed just because he didn't use king kong gun against kaido? Answer that.
No I believe that cause he didn't have Punishers and in the last chapter he repeated it (saying that the fight would've been different). Again, you can find this in the manga, what about your assumption?
That's a technique, not an equipement
 
#84
That's not even a nerf. It's his own choices (never recall orochi restraining his weapons). That's like saying luffy was nerfed against kaido because he didn't use king kong gun.
Nerf thing is just lame excuses tranji boys/zoro haters make because their reading comprehension is below grade schoolers
You reaching so hard lol.

Come now, we didn’t see any interaction between Killer and Orochi and you want to come here saying “DoNt ReCaLl HiS WeApOnS bEInG ReStRaiNed”.
Killer himself is saying that it would have gone different had he had his weapons.
 
#90
Killer’s arm is horribly burnt, you can see it better when Oda drew it

I was trying to get a better look at it when playing pirate warriors 4. It was literally one of first things I noticed when I looked at that full image of the supernovas coloured in the manga. I think it looks so dope, it does look to be some kind of severe burn to the point where is arm is disfigured rather than the discoloured scar we usually get on characters like Luffys X or Sabo eye scar.

Honestly I know it’s a simple design change but it’s so damn cool, makes Killer unique for me as we don’t get many injuries like that in One Piece. I wonder, seeing as his loyalties are strong. Maybe he tried to stop Kid from getting injured but it wasn’t enough and Kids arm was taken yet Killer still got injured in a futile attempt to save him. Like it just makes me wonder what went down against the battle between the Red Hair Pirates, the anime implies that Shanks cut his arm and leads many to believe that but what if it was something to do with somebody’s ability or power. THE DOOR TO SPECULATE REMAINS OPEN :steef:.
 
#91
No I believe that cause he didn't have Punishers and in the last chapter he repeated it (saying that the fight would've been different). Again, you can find this in the manga, what about your assumption?
That's a technique, not an equipement
So you want to make your logic based on that panel? Okay. The next panel had zoro said that the outcome would be the same, not different. Killer is not nerfed then, following your logic there.

Only thing we saw was orochi offered killer the chance to save his captain...and why he became assassin. I said that killer picked the scythes by his own choice, because there was no proof that he was somehow restrained from using punishers. You said he was nerfed. You made the claim. Bring the proof that he was forbid from using scythes then

bro how is that the same? Luffy can still use KKG, Killer can’t pull his punishers out of his ass.
killer had the options to choose weapon. He chose to pick the scythes. Read back my posts
 
#92
So you want to make your logic based on that panel? Okay. The next panel had zoro said that the outcome would be the same, not different. Killer is not nerfed then, following your logic there.

Only thing we saw was orochi offered killer the chance to save his captain...and why he became assassin. I said that killer picked the scythes by his own choice, because there was no proof that he was somehow restrained from using punishers. You said he was nerfed. You made the claim. Bring the proof that he was forbid from using scythes then


killer had the options to choose weapon. He chose to pick the scythes. Read back my posts
All the things you're saying regarding Killer choosing his weapons are not in the manga, mine are supported by panels and if what you say is true there would be really no logic.
Why should Zoro choose to use random halberds instead of his swords? No reason in the world, especially in a critical situation
Why should Killer choose to use random scythes instead of his blades? No reason in the world, especially in a critical situation
Is really that hard to understand?
 
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#93
He definitely needs more depth just like Kidd.

I never considered Kidd and Killer to be counterparts to Luffy and Zoro.

All we know is that Kidd is a more evil version of Luffy without plot armor.

Dude did nothing during the timeskip besides injuring a YC.

He needs more depth if Oda wants to put him next to a guy who beat 2 Yonko commanders in the same arc and few weeks laters grows enough to damage Kaido.

Any damage that Kidd does to Kaido will be a massive mystery since Kidd is surprised that punches can hurt Kaido like wtf dude?

Killer hmm. Dunno what to think. Just as Zoro said. Nothing would've changed back in Ringo if he had his normal weapons. Maybe he would do more techniques and that's it Zoro would still win.
 

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#94
Not a nerf but his own fault for not using it when he should have and to begin with, there is no telling if he'd stop Zoro's Haki even he did use it.

Had different weapons
Yes, This is the only nerf he had which I've already admitted.

Had his scythe stolen by Zoro thus couldht defend/attack well.
Losing his weapon to the enemy even after severely wounding him with a free hit is his own fault, not a nerf.
 
#95
He definitely needs more depth just like Kidd.

I never considered Kidd and Killer to be counterparts to Luffy and Zoro.

All we know is that Kidd is a more evil version of Luffy without plot armor.

Dude did nothing during the timeskip besides injuring a YC.

He needs more depth if Oda wants to put him next to a guy who beat 2 Yonko commanders in the same arc and few weeks laters grows enough to damage Kaido.

Any damage that Kidd does to Kaido will be a massive mystery since Kidd is surprised that punches can hurt Kaido like wtf dude?

Killer hmm. Dunno what to think. Just as Zoro said. Nothing would've changed back in Ringo if he had his normal weapons. Maybe he would do more techniques and that's it Zoro would still win.
I dunno Oda making some weird choices this arc I can’t lie. This is legit why I said they should’ve shown the other supernova and their crews more this arc so people would put faith in them later in the arc. Oda wasted the BM pirates we could have had some interesting interactions between them and Luffy & Kid. We could even have had some warm up fights before the final battle but we didn’t get anything and frankly it sucks lol.

I don’t even understand what he’s doing with everyone on the roof. Like yeah they’ll get their moments 100% but why have the first few panels being everyone talking about Luffys new haki and it injuring Kaido just got Kid, Killer, Zoro and Law to attack Kaido afterwards with attacks that aren’t coated in haki. Like he really had law use takt on some rocks like he didn’t try that on smoker and Doffy and still did nothing......LIKE COME ON ODA.

why would kid and killer be surprised that a punch works for him to try and press Kaido with metal like he really thought it was gonna do damage.
Like I see what Oda is trying to do and calling them monsters, but I’d rather that have come later when they actually use some decent attacks because frankly nothing they did last chapter was impressive. Red roc was sexy but the level of attacks we get in 1001 make everything just seem so meh.

Like I don’t like how everything needs to be so clear cut that Oda won’t even leave room for speculation, like he knows what he’s doing. I just find it weird that Zoro would say that, like how does he know that the fight would be the same? He doesn’t and Zoro isn’t the kind of person to count somebody out especially when he knows they have promise. Like I know there’s a gap but that’s why I feel Oda is going about the supernovas all wrong. He’s trying to force that they’re the big dogs but all we get is constant Luffy and Zoro wank like it was believable in Sabody but not anymore. I love the supernovas but Oda treating them like garbage man.
 
#97
All the things you're saying regarding Killer choosing his weapons are not in the manga, mine are supported by panels and if what you say is true there would be really no logic.
Why should Zoro choose to use random halberds instead of his swords? No reason in the world, especially in a critical situation
Why should Killer choose to use random scythes instead of his blades? No reason in the world, especially in a critical situation
Is really that hard to understand?
Mental gymnastics don't support what you said. Killer could choose his weapons as kamazou, and he took the scythes. That means killer was confident to use the scythes too.
if what you say is true there would be really no logic.
Exactly. There is no logic. Which is why what your argument is flawed there.
 
#99
Mental gymnastics don't support what you said. Killer could choose his weapons as kamazou, and he took the scythes. That means killer was confident to use the scythes too.

Exactly. There is no logic. Which is why what your argument is flawed there.
Where/When was this stated? This is your headcanon and you keep at it lol
You're literally denying one of the few nerfs that were vocally stated in the manga, didn't knew this revelation would've hurt you so bad but you should just accept it
Otherwise keep reading Dream Piece, enough of this shit for me
 
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