There aren't any leads because Sanji never went out of his way to find these leads. He never asked around about it to find clues, or search out libraries or other sources of information to do research about the All Blue. Loda could of written in information and characters that have knowledge on the subject that could of caught the interesr of the viewers. He is the alleged world building genius after all.
The 99 recipes were suppose to aid in the Straw Hats' journey by giving them buffs, yet they haven't been emphasized as being important. We don'tneed to witness Sanji's entire process of cooking the recipes, but he should be exclaiming the cuisines' effects on those that consume them.
Only because Loda put less than the bare minimum in intertwining the Straw Hats' dream in their journey and he waste panels on useless characters that have little relevancein the grand scheme of things.
I'm not saying Sanji needs to completely come over his abstinence of hitting women, but rather find ways to circumvent around it, like figuring out methods to tranquilize his female opposition without harming them, or using a variety of methods to call his crew mates to handle them for him. And yes Sanji's apprehension from hitting women is a weakness as it directly or indirectly hinders his and his crew's path to victory as it puts him and others in unnecessary danger when Sanji would of easily dealt with the threat if they were the opposite sex.
Character Discussion Thoughts on Zoro's Journey to become The Strongest Swordsman?
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1. WCI
WCI expands a lot of stuff. For example, in Baratie fb we know Sanji is stranded & not with his family, WCI gives us the reason, he escaped from his family. In Baratie we didn't know why Sanji loves to cook, WCI gave us a reason. Even we know where the new limits of his feeding, he even let a mouse to eat.
2. Constantly lies
That's what you believe. Brook/Luffy/Reiju/Mom only said that Sanji is very kind, you equating that to the best saint is on you, not Oda.
Oda shows his kindness, in WCI context, by making Sanji rescue his family who traumatize & make his childhood a living hell.
3. Dreams
Other SH also aren't shown to pursue their dreams. Also Sanji's dream is finding a place in case you forgot, as long as the SH travels, he is automatically progress his dream.
4. Weakness to woman
This is a spoiler for Onigashima arc, don't read if you haven't come this far.
Sanji's subplot in Wano is that he finally willing to ask for help to fight women (previously in Enies Lobby he didn't ask anyone's help).
Another subplot in Wano is that he willingly put women in danger (putting Robin against a strong enemy), not just him babysitting them.
5. Recipes
He used it on Punk Hazard.
6. Layers
Adding layers is indeed giving depth & complexity to Sanji's character, because it's not just one or two things, but a lot of things.
Let's take bounty (iconic elements for One Piece) for example. Oda explored:
1. His non-existent bounty (when Zoro gets one) as the first part of Sanji's bounty subplot.
2. His bounty picture as the second part of this subplot (it's wrong picture, and then tied to Duval)
3. Later it's about his bounty name (it's a new name, tied to Germa/family)
4. After that it's about his bounty status (only alive, this is an unique status, tied to WCI plotline).
5. And most recently it's the number (tied to a pun about him).
You see where I'm going?
- For OP character writing standard, only Sanji got this much for his bounty.
- For animanga character writing standard, there is no mangaka who puts a lot of stuff to 1 element of a character.
Like, you don't even see Kishi expanding Naruto's story in each ninja ranks (something iconic there).
WCI expands a lot of stuff. For example, in Baratie fb we know Sanji is stranded & not with his family, WCI gives us the reason, he escaped from his family. In Baratie we didn't know why Sanji loves to cook, WCI gave us a reason. Even we know where the new limits of his feeding, he even let a mouse to eat.
2. Constantly lies
That's what you believe. Brook/Luffy/Reiju/Mom only said that Sanji is very kind, you equating that to the best saint is on you, not Oda.
Oda shows his kindness, in WCI context, by making Sanji rescue his family who traumatize & make his childhood a living hell.
3. Dreams
Other SH also aren't shown to pursue their dreams. Also Sanji's dream is finding a place in case you forgot, as long as the SH travels, he is automatically progress his dream.
4. Weakness to woman
This is a spoiler for Onigashima arc, don't read if you haven't come this far.
Sanji's subplot in Wano is that he finally willing to ask for help to fight women (previously in Enies Lobby he didn't ask anyone's help).
Another subplot in Wano is that he willingly put women in danger (putting Robin against a strong enemy), not just him babysitting them.
5. Recipes
He used it on Punk Hazard.
6. Layers
Adding layers is indeed giving depth & complexity to Sanji's character, because it's not just one or two things, but a lot of things.
Let's take bounty (iconic elements for One Piece) for example. Oda explored:
1. His non-existent bounty (when Zoro gets one) as the first part of Sanji's bounty subplot.
2. His bounty picture as the second part of this subplot (it's wrong picture, and then tied to Duval)
3. Later it's about his bounty name (it's a new name, tied to Germa/family)
4. After that it's about his bounty status (only alive, this is an unique status, tied to WCI plotline).
5. And most recently it's the number (tied to a pun about him).
You see where I'm going?
- For OP character writing standard, only Sanji got this much for his bounty.
- For animanga character writing standard, there is no mangaka who puts a lot of stuff to 1 element of a character.
Like, you don't even see Kishi expanding Naruto's story in each ninja ranks (something iconic there).
There is this misconception among the fandom that Zoro is supposed to beat swordsmen specifically in order to be WSS... Who said that?
Their headcanon and nobody else. Fact is, Zoro doesnt need to beat a single swordsman except for Mihawk. The one who is the strongest.
WSS is Zoro's way of becoming the strongest in the world, not just among swordsmen. Thats why he barely fights any swordsmen on his path.
You simply have to come to peace with the fact that Zoro claps your fave, whoever he may be.
Their headcanon and nobody else. Fact is, Zoro doesnt need to beat a single swordsman except for Mihawk. The one who is the strongest.
WSS is Zoro's way of becoming the strongest in the world, not just among swordsmen. Thats why he barely fights any swordsmen on his path.
You simply have to come to peace with the fact that Zoro claps your fave, whoever he may be.
There is this misconception among the fandom that Zoro is supposed to beat swordsmen specifically in order to be WSS... Who said that?
Their headcanon and nobody else. Fact is, Zoro doesnt need to beat a single swordsman except for Mihawk. The one who is the strongest.
WSS is Zoro's way of becoming the strongest in the world, not just among swordsmen. Thats why he barely fights any swordsmen on his path.
You simply have to come to peace with the fact that Zoro claps your fave, whoever he may be.
Their headcanon and nobody else. Fact is, Zoro doesnt need to beat a single swordsman except for Mihawk. The one who is the strongest.
WSS is Zoro's way of becoming the strongest in the world, not just among swordsmen. Thats why he barely fights any swordsmen on his path.
You simply have to come to peace with the fact that Zoro claps your fave, whoever he may be.
And this "he barely fought any swordsmen post TS"is just low reading comprenhension because except the smile saga he always has fought swordsmen even though in wano his fight was king tho his real swordsman fight was Oden and Enma
You'll never likely get an honest answer from the Zorotard brigade as they think from the start no one but Mihawk has been a challenge for Zoro and durp Zoro neg diff durp.
The honest answer is yes. Oda should have implemented many people throughout the arcs who have the dream of WSS and had Zoro beat them 1 by 1 perhaps learning something from them each fight to improve his skills until he reaches Mihawk.
Only Zoro fans really find the concept of Zoro vs Mihawk actually interesting now.
The honest answer is yes. Oda should have implemented many people throughout the arcs who have the dream of WSS and had Zoro beat them 1 by 1 perhaps learning something from them each fight to improve his skills until he reaches Mihawk.
Only Zoro fans really find the concept of Zoro vs Mihawk actually interesting now.
Ask yourself too who wants to draw the map of the world been a brave hero finding the all blue or fuck whoooa look chopper dream it's just like zoro he wants to be the best Doc In the world why law marco or any other doctor don't rivalize with him
But I guess is just because it's zoro and we know how people act when it comes to him
But I guess is just because it's zoro and we know how people act when it comes to him
Oda did fumble most SH dreams.
Oda established early on Tashigi's dream of collecting graded swords from pirates and that would include Yoru wielded by Mihawk, so that was a good base for a rival to Zoro, right? No, Oda made her into a weakling background character.
Wano, the land of swordsmen, has a shogun. Is he perhaps a powerful swordsman who might want to reclaim Shusui from Zoro ? No, it turned out we got Orochi. The only decent swordsman from Wano was Oden, a guy who died decades before the story even started.
These were easy chances to add more to Zoro's journey instead of just being tagging along with Luffy and wanting to make him PK.
Oda established early on Tashigi's dream of collecting graded swords from pirates and that would include Yoru wielded by Mihawk, so that was a good base for a rival to Zoro, right? No, Oda made her into a weakling background character.
Wano, the land of swordsmen, has a shogun. Is he perhaps a powerful swordsman who might want to reclaim Shusui from Zoro ? No, it turned out we got Orochi. The only decent swordsman from Wano was Oden, a guy who died decades before the story even started.
These were easy chances to add more to Zoro's journey instead of just being tagging along with Luffy and wanting to make him PK.
Oda did fumble most SH dreams.
Oda established early on Tashigi's dream of collecting graded swords from pirates and that would include Yoru wielded by Mihawk, so that was a good base for a rival to Zoro, right? No, Oda made her into a weakling background character.
Wano, the land of swordsmen, has a shogun. Is he perhaps a powerful swordsman who might want to reclaim Shusui from Zoro ? No, it turned out we got Orochi. The only decent swordsman from Wano was Oden, a guy who died decades before the story even started.
These were easy chances to add more to Zoro's journey instead of just being tagging along with Luffy and wanting to make him PK.
Oda established early on Tashigi's dream of collecting graded swords from pirates and that would include Yoru wielded by Mihawk, so that was a good base for a rival to Zoro, right? No, Oda made her into a weakling background character.
Wano, the land of swordsmen, has a shogun. Is he perhaps a powerful swordsman who might want to reclaim Shusui from Zoro ? No, it turned out we got Orochi. The only decent swordsman from Wano was Oden, a guy who died decades before the story even started.
These were easy chances to add more to Zoro's journey instead of just being tagging along with Luffy and wanting to make him PK.
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Bullshit, zoro needed MAJOR power ups for most of his main fights:
CoA and CoO for Daz Bones.
Asura for kaku.
ACoA + ACoC for King.
No one who needs that amount of advanced haki to deal with a bum like king deserves this sort of hype.
King showed to be literal FODDER without his flames gimmick.
He never defeated shanks either.
Chopper's dream will be the first to be fulfilled and it gets achieved when chopper creates the medicine capable of allowing DF users to reach laugh tale.
As it stands now, DF users CAN'T go to laugh tale hence why toki and buggy got sick.
Roger and shanks knew this which is why they were/are 100% hakimen crew.
Thats the reason why i think blackbeard will NOT be EoS villain and gets defeated before laugh tale.
WSS will serve as nothing more than a helping hand for the title that actually matters and showcase the STRONGEST PIRATE AKA PIRATE KING.
Zoro's biggest achievment won't be his WSS title, but the priviledge of saying he was part of joyboy crew.
Every relevant somewhat strong pirate wanted to be PK, what they do after achieving this goal is another story.
Oden lost to one ACoC hit from kaido tho.
CoA and CoO for Daz Bones.
Asura for kaku.
ACoA + ACoC for King.
No one who needs that amount of advanced haki to deal with a bum like king deserves this sort of hype.
King showed to be literal FODDER without his flames gimmick.
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He never defeated shanks either.
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Chopper's dream will be the first to be fulfilled and it gets achieved when chopper creates the medicine capable of allowing DF users to reach laugh tale.
As it stands now, DF users CAN'T go to laugh tale hence why toki and buggy got sick.
Roger and shanks knew this which is why they were/are 100% hakimen crew.
Thats the reason why i think blackbeard will NOT be EoS villain and gets defeated before laugh tale.
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WSS will serve as nothing more than a helping hand for the title that actually matters and showcase the STRONGEST PIRATE AKA PIRATE KING.
Zoro's biggest achievment won't be his WSS title, but the priviledge of saying he was part of joyboy crew.
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And how many characters actually share the same Dream with Luffy. Because pirate king is just a path to is dream, and not actually his dream.
Since no one, we can say his dream is not really interesting, right?
Since no one, we can say his dream is not really interesting, right?
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Oden lost to one ACoC hit from kaido tho.
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