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ConquistadoR

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What presence :steef: , Rukia had to tell Ichigo, the dude who whooped her older brother into submission, the Kenpachi slayer, to run for his life, cause he had noooo shot. Never forget that. Biggest MC beatdown in anime history from the goat.
The quote at the end as Tosen takes him away... "Remember my name and pray that you never hear it again." as he tells Ichigo his name. Too hype lol.

He dominated even Hollow Ichigo with his Released form (idk what terms are used since i only read Bleach recently), to the point where Nel was surprised that Ichigo was getting his ass beat.

Taking that Bankai Getsuga Tensho scar & then taunting him later for it, Grimmjow was too good man. The Higher ranking Espadas were a let down compared to him and Ulquiorra, perks of fighting the MC i guess.
 

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The quote at the end as Tosen takes him away... "Remember my name and pray that you never hear it again." as he tells Ichigo his name. Too hype lol.

He dominated even Hollow Ichigo with his Released form (idk what terms are used since i only read Bleach recently), to the point where Nel was surprised that Ichigo was getting his ass beat.

Taking that Bankai Getsuga Tensho scar & then taunting him later for it, Grimmjow was too good man. The Higher ranking Espadas were a let down compared to him and Ulquiorra, perks of fighting the MC i guess.
Witnessing Espadas #3 and up was the true downfall of my Bleach enjoyment.

After coming off of Grimmjow and Ulquiorra's monstrous power. We got Halibel unable to stomp Hitsugaya 😭. It's not even funny how badly Grimmjow and Ulq whoop on poor Toshiro. They would never have to release.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Witnessing Espadas #3 and up was the true downfall of my Bleach enjoyment.

After coming off of Grimmjow and Ulquiorra's monstrous power. We got Halibel unable to stomp Hitsugaya 😭. It's not even funny how badly Grimmjow and Ulq whoop on poor Toshiro. They would never have to release.
Imo, Kubo fumbled the rankings.
Ulquiorra especially with Second Release is taking a dump on Halibel lol.
And i also dont see Stark beating Barragan unless the wolves ignore Barragan's hax, he was the strongest iirc.
 

ZenZu

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Imo, Kubo fumbled the rankings.
Ulquiorra especially with Second Release is taking a dump on Halibel lol.
And i also dont see Stark beating Barragan unless the wolves ignore Barragan's hax, he was the strongest iirc.
Kubo is a joke when it comes to the powerscale.

You don't have to look further than Ichigo vs Grimmjow. Grimmjow was several tiers above Byakuya who himself was levels above Hitsugaya. Halibel was having a starting contest with that dude. Vasto Lordes/Espada were hyped and even shown to be above most captains (through Ulq and Grimmjow) and then it all went to shit in the last hour. Like bruh how, it's like he gave up mid arc and decided, you know what fuck it Captains it is, even the weakest of the bunch taking on the strongest of the Espada out of left field. (Hitsugaya was struggling with Luppi who Grimmjow one shotted btw)
 
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What presence :steef: , Rukia had to tell Ichigo, the dude who whooped her older brother into submission, the Kenpachi slayer, to run for his life, cause he had noooo shot. Never forget that. Biggest MC beatdown in anime history from the goat.
I don't exactly remember this but iirc it was said: Espadas can only fight to the fullest in Hueco Mondo, outside they will be nerfed.
Meaning, that Grimmjhow who gave Ichigo a beating was basically a nerfed one.

Instead of Grimmjhow hype, I think it is the author fooling around with the powerlevel. How come nerfed Sixth Espada beat up the guy who already beat 2 Mid Tier (not low) Captains: non eyepatch Kenpachi and Bankai Byakuya? Although tbf Byakuya only lost because Hollow Ichigo took over, while the Ichigo nerfed Grimmjhow beat up in this video is non hollow Ichigo.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Kubo is a joke when it comes to the powerscale.

You don't have to look further than Ichigo vs Grimmjow. Grimmjow was several tiers above Byakuya who himself was levels above Hitsugaya. Halibel was having a starting contest with that dude. Vasto Lordes/Espada were hyped and even shown to be above most captains (through Ulq and Grimmjow) and then it all went to shit in the last hour. Like bruh how, it's like he gave up mid arc and decided, you know what fuck it Captains it is, even the weakest of the bunch taking on the strongest of the Espada out of left field. (Hitsugaya was struggling with Luppi who Grimmjow one shotted btw)
Bleach is a full on style & no substance manga lol.
Kubo gave absolutely no fucks lol.

I only imagine what the meltdown would be reading it week to week running agendas, especially if the Bleach community is even half as reactionary as the current OP fanbase with the Ulti > Doffy takes 😂
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
I don't exactly remember this but iirc it was said: Espadas can only fight to the fullest in Hueco Mondo, outside they will be nerfed.
Meaning, that Grimmjhow who gave Ichigo a beating was basically a nerfed one.

Instead of Grimmjhow hype, I think it is the author fooling around with the powerlevel. How come nerfed Sixth Espada beat up the guy who already beat 2 Mid Tier (not low) Captains: non eyepatch Kenpachi and Bankai Byakuya? Although tbf Byakuya only lost because Hollow Ichigo took over, while the Ichigo nerfed Grimmjhow beat up in this video is non hollow Ichigo.
It was simply him introducing the new threat. And so naturally the Espada, were a bigger threat than most of the Captains, otherwise there would be no tension.

Grimmjow babyshaked Bankai Ichigo in base form. Literally grabbing his blade and tossing him around like a toddler.
Bankai Ichigo was clowning Byakuya who was already using Bankai, he needed Senkei to establish his dominance over him.

And this was also consistent with Ulqiuorra. Who forget babyshaking Tensa Zangetsu, was fighting Hollow Mask Bankai Ichigo in base lol....

Kubo just gave up mid arc, like he got tired and said fuck it I made these guys too strong.
 
It was simply him introducing the new threat. And so naturally the Espada, were a bigger threat than most of the Captains, otherwise there would be no tension.

Grimmjow babyshaked Bankai Ichigo in base form. Literally grabbing his blade and tossing him around like a toddler.
Bankai Ichigo was clowning Byakuya who was already using Bankai, he needed Senkei to establish his dominance over him.

And this was also consistent with Ulqiuorra. Who forget babyshaking Tensa Zangetsu, was fighting Hollow Mask Bankai Ichigo in base lol....

Kubo just gave up mid arc, like he got tired and said fuck it I made these guys too strong.
Yeah pre HM arc it looks like average Espada > average Captain.
Later it is more like average Captain > average Espada. Lately I even saw Garp the Fist saying Yamamoto can solo all 10 Espadas and it actually makes sense.

Captains are more likeable than the Espadas though.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Yeah pre HM arc it looks like average Espada > average Captain.
Later it is more like average Captain > average Espada. Lately I even saw Garp the Fist saying Yamamoto can solo all 10 Espadas and it actually makes sense.

Captains are more likeable than the Espadas though.
If Kubo didn't shit the bed with Halibel, Baragan, and Stark. Espada would be right up there with the Akatsuki.

They were shaping up to be just as iconic. I was caught up to Bleach at the time, and I got goosebumps when Stark all nonchalant revealed himself as the primera. 10/10 designs, attitude. Just not the abilities or the strength to go with it.

That Ulquiorra scene where he reveals he was only the 4th left my jaw on the floor. And the three jobbers ahead of him is what we got for it.

Kubo just packaged them up together and did them in because he was trying to wrap things up at that point. Captains had the luxury of being the "good guys" so we didn't need to see all of them defeated in the SS arc.



Also @ConquistadoR I forgot to mention a lot of people do place Barragan > Stark.
 
If Kubo didn't shit the bed with Halibel, Baragan, and Stark. Espada would be right up there with the Akatsuki.

They were shaping up to be just as iconic. I was caught up to Bleach at the time, and I got goosebumps when Stark all nonchalant revealed himself as the primera. 10/10 designs, attitude. Just not the abilities or the strength to go with it.

That Ulquiorra scene where he reveals he was only the 4th left my jaw on the floor. And the three jobbers ahead of him is what we got for it.

Kubo just packaged them up together and did them in because he was trying to wrap things up at that point. Captains had the luxury of being the "good guys" so we didn't need to see all of them defeated in the SS arc.



Also @ConquistadoR I forgot to mention a lot of people do place Barragan > Stark.
If Kubo had just said "The Espada are on par with Captains" rather than "The Espada dick on Captains", he probably would have had a better time.

To be fair, I had already considered power scaling Bleach a hopeless cause after seeing Ichigo go from Mid Tier to a Top Tier within the span of a single arc, so I didn't bat an eye when Captains were matching Espada. I just didn't care anymore. Lol.

Kubo has always had a habit of wanking his villains way too hard and then realising the mistake he made when it comes time to actually defeat these sassenachs. Case in point, Aizen and Yhwach. Their defeats sucked. :rolaugh:
 
I still dont see how Starrk beats him unless the wolves ignore his hax.
Im not even involved in Bleach powerscaling btw, i just read the manga a couple months ago :zosleepy:
Ulquiorra by feats shits on starrk and Haribel. Baraggan is obviously > Starrk yet significant part of fandom thinks starrk is the strongest and the debate really gets heated. You will get jumped on if you say otherwise :josad:
 
I still dont see how Starrk beats him unless the wolves ignore his hax.
Im not even involved in Bleach powerscaling btw, i just read the manga a couple months ago :zosleepy:
Even thematically, you would think it would make more sense for Barragan to be #1.

With the Espada all supposedly representing forms of death (some way more than others), you would think the Dark Souls boss looking mf who represents the inevitability of time would be the greatest threat. Who is #1 instead? The depressed dilf/loli combo representing loneliness..... Really? Lol.
 
Even thematically, you would think it would make more sense for Barragan to be #1.

With the Espada all supposedly representing forms of death (some way more than others), you would think the Dark Souls boss looking mf who represents the inevitability of time would be the greatest threat. Who is #1 instead? The depressed dilf/loli combo representing loneliness..... Really? Lol.
I think Aizen was trolling Barragan with the no.2 spot, Barragan was the king of Hueco Mundo after all + with the hax respira it makes sense for him to be no.1. But then you realize that most of the placements don’t make sense anyway, second release Ulquiorra is probably the strongest of them yet he’s number 4. Halibel doesn’t look like a top 3 at all, Yammy is somehow number “0” yet lost to a half serious Kenpachi and Byakuya. Heck there isn’t a notable difference between Grimmjow and Nnoitra, they are pretty much interchangeable for 5 and 6 with both performing better than Halibel at no.3.
Starrk should’ve never been no.1 lol beyond his reiatsu he had nothing going for him, both Ulquiorra and Barragan had better cases to be no.1.

IIRC even Grimmjow called BS on that in TYBW when Neliel said she was stronger than him based on the numbers.
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That Ulquiorra scene where he reveals he was only the 4th left my jaw on the floor. And the three jobbers ahead of him is what we got for it.
Ulquiorra being number 4 was definitely a shocker, but then he ended up being the strongest of them all so it didn’t matter at all lmao. I really thought Ulquiorra was going to be number 1 or 2 before that reveal.
 
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I think Aizen was trolling Barragan with the no.2 spot, Barragan was the king of Hueco Mundo after all + with the hax respira it makes sense for him to be no.1. But then you realize that most of the placements don’t make sense anyway, second release Ulquiorra is probably the strongest of them yet he’s number 4. Halibel doesn’t look like a top 3 at all, Yammy is somehow number “0” yet lost to a half serious Kenpachi and Byakuya. Heck there isn’t a notable difference between Grimmjow and Nnoitra, they are pretty much interchangeable for 5 and 6 with both performing better than Halibel at no.3.
Starrk should’ve never been no.1 lol beyond his reiatsu he had nothing going for him, both Ulquiorra and Barragan had better cases to be no.1.

IIRC even Grimmjow called BS on that in TYBW when Neliel said she was stronger than him based on the numbers.
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Ulquiorra being number 4 was definitely a shocker, but then he ended up being the strongest of them all so it didn’t matter at all lmao. I really thought Ulquiorra was going to be number 1 or 2 before that reveal.
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