Speculations To ZKK deniers, when will Enma turn black?
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I'd like to point out the parallel between Zoro and Luffy's powerup this arc
Luffy PU: Internal Armanent Haki -> Advanced Conqueror Haki -> Awakening (which turns him WHITE)
While Zoro's PU has been
Enma (which technically is a Internal Armanent Haki PU) -> Advanced Conqueror Haki -> Black blades (which turns his blades....BLACK)
Sun and Moon indeed
Luffy PU: Internal Armanent Haki -> Advanced Conqueror Haki -> Awakening (which turns him WHITE)
While Zoro's PU has been
Enma (which technically is a Internal Armanent Haki PU) -> Advanced Conqueror Haki -> Black blades (which turns his blades....BLACK)
Sun and Moon indeed
he said none of them were because they dont have the power to open up the old scar like oden
so what is the implication when someone comes and does .......
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you arent answering the question
is half dead zoro going to fight a full strength kaido ?
or is he just going to execute him
so what is the implication when someone comes and does .......
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you arent answering the question
is half dead zoro going to fight a full strength kaido ?
or is he just going to execute him
He didn’t say that none of them were the monster samurai because they couldn’t open up the old scar. He just said they were so weak, they couldn’t even open up the old scar. That doesn’t mean that anyone who can open up the old scar or make a new scar is the new monster samurai. If Kaido considered Zoro to be the monster samurai, he wouldn’t have still been constantly disrespecting the samurai as a whole while talking to Luffy.
fair enough
ok so you dont think zoro has been acknowledged as the monster samurai
wonder what your thoughts will be if the plotpoint with kaido isnt revisited.
the way I see it
kaido's comment to the scabbards was building all up to zoro leaving that scar
and confirming himself as the monster samurai like oden. in terms of insulting wano samurai as a whole
context?
they havent been able to do anything for 20 yrs. zoro being the monster samurai wouldnt change that. ....
ok so you dont think zoro has been acknowledged as the monster samurai
wonder what your thoughts will be if the plotpoint with kaido isnt revisited.
the way I see it
kaido's comment to the scabbards was building all up to zoro leaving that scar
and confirming himself as the monster samurai like oden. in terms of insulting wano samurai as a whole
context?
they havent been able to do anything for 20 yrs. zoro being the monster samurai wouldnt change that. ....
there's this stupid theory that says Zoro will turn Wado white 
https://www.opfanpage.com/2022/05/0...e-the-first-white-blade-at-1he-end-of-series/
honestly might be cool
or not..
it fits with the zoro policeman anti black meme
https://www.opfanpage.com/2022/05/0...e-the-first-white-blade-at-1he-end-of-series/
honestly might be cool
or not..it fits with the zoro policeman anti black meme
Well, I believe Kaido explicitly acknowledging Zoro as the monster samurai on par with Oden is a core tenet of ZKK and if it doesn’t happen, then neither can ZKK (but I’m confident that both will).
The reason I don’t believe Zoro was acknowledged in 1010 is:
- His scar obviously paled in comparison to Oden
- Kaido’s reaction to Zoro was much less dramatic than his reaction to Oden
- He still doesn’t respect the samurai (if he believed Zoro to be the monster samurai, he wouldn’t hold such a negative opinion of the samurai as a whole, the new monster samurai should be enough to completely change his opinions on all samurai despite their failures over the past 20 years)
The reason I don’t believe Zoro was acknowledged in 1010 is:
- His scar obviously paled in comparison to Oden
- Kaido’s reaction to Zoro was much less dramatic than his reaction to Oden
- He still doesn’t respect the samurai (if he believed Zoro to be the monster samurai, he wouldn’t hold such a negative opinion of the samurai as a whole, the new monster samurai should be enough to completely change his opinions on all samurai despite their failures over the past 20 years)
Imagine if Zoro turn Enma Black after like 3 days with it but was unable to turn Wado after 15 years, a clear sing that Oden haki was nearly enough to turn Enma and Zoro just give te final push.
Would make more sense for he to make Wado black first fighting Mihawk next arc.
For story reason would be better if he turn the three black at the same time, like in some final clash with Mihawk, breaking Yoru. Because if he turn one at a time, it will lose a lot in drama
Would make more sense for he to make Wado black first fighting Mihawk next arc.
For story reason would be better if he turn the three black at the same time, like in some final clash with Mihawk, breaking Yoru. Because if he turn one at a time, it will lose a lot in drama
So he has to beat the bald gorosei to make sandai black
Defeat mihawk to mihawk to make wado black
Have luffy defeat kaido and then kill kaido to make enma black
Will momo get a blackblade too if he kills orochi or is it impossible if someone kills him first?
Were enma and habakiri impossible to turn black before oden met orochi and kaido? With him just never having a chance to turn them black not because he was too weak but was just fucked over
Who did mihawk beat or kill
Do roger, newgate, fujitora, kinemon, king, etc. Just not care enough about their blades wills? Since strength isn't really necessary to turn them black?
Defeat mihawk to mihawk to make wado black
Have luffy defeat kaido and then kill kaido to make enma black
Will momo get a blackblade too if he kills orochi or is it impossible if someone kills him first?
Were enma and habakiri impossible to turn black before oden met orochi and kaido? With him just never having a chance to turn them black not because he was too weak but was just fucked over
Who did mihawk beat or kill
Do roger, newgate, fujitora, kinemon, king, etc. Just not care enough about their blades wills? Since strength isn't really necessary to turn them black?
In the King fight, zoro had a scene of him valuing each sword, and each named sword called out to him, so if swords have a will of their own, then named sword desire a goal. Emna - Kill Kaido/most lethal, Sandai - users death, Wado- beat the WSS. I predict devil fruit awakening and turning a sword black will have something in common, imbue acoc haki into each sword, listening, conquering the sword?
