Speculations To ZKK deniers, when will Enma turn black?
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For a guy who likes to suck Oda's cock so much, you sure got clowned on by the same dick you suck so much right? @Celestial D. Dragon
- Enma has Oden's Haki - negged by Oda
- Zoro will fight Orochi and kill him - negged by Oda
- Brook is the Grim Reaper and the awakening fruit that the 5 Elder fears is his - negged by Oda
I guess the "invincible Katakuri" was a fraud since he died at some point
- Enma has Oden's Haki - negged by Oda
- Zoro will fight Orochi and kill him - negged by Oda
- Brook is the Grim Reaper and the awakening fruit that the 5 Elder fears is his - negged by Oda
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I guess the "invincible Katakuri" was a fraud since he died at some point
He already gave his sword up by then to toki. Before his execution.
If enma is connected to odens goals/dreams/asperations/promises/whatever other word i might be missing
Shouldn't it be related to the one most important to him
Just like kaido knew Oden also likley knew joyboy was the man going to beat kaido
If enma and habakiri have a different main goals/dreams/asperations/promises/whatever fine but it is what it is
Opening wanos boarders was his dream before he died and before he gave his swords to toki. It isn't some dream he came up with on a whim right before he died
What kaido and yamato learned after reading odens journal:
What kaido and yamato learned after reading odens journal:
Opening wanos boarders was his dream before he died and before he gave his swords to toki. It isn't some dream he came up with on a whim right before he died
What kaido and yamato learned after reading odens journal:
What kaido and yamato learned after reading odens journal:
Oden never said joyboy would beat kaido he wanted wano open BEFORE joyboy comes.
Both kaido and oden knew of joyboys return
Kaido somehow knowing from what yamato had told him that he's the man that will defeat him
We knew oden was also awakening his return and wanted wano to welcome him with open borders. While the boarders could be open before he got there opening them in general was still his dream
Odens two most important dreams are 1 to adventure and 2 to open wano
"Coincidentally" luffy is the one all the samurai (zoro included) put their faith in to defeat kaido
Luffy being the one carrying wano on his back
Kaido somehow knowing from what yamato had told him that he's the man that will defeat him
We knew oden was also awakening his return and wanted wano to welcome him with open borders. While the boarders could be open before he got there opening them in general was still his dream
Odens two most important dreams are 1 to adventure and 2 to open wano
- Both things yamato wants to and help accomplish do in his place
- The thing Momonosuke has to officially do as shogun
- The thing he entrusted his retainers to help accomplish
- The thing joyboy is going to assure happens even tho it couldn't happen before he got there
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"Coincidentally" luffy is the one all the samurai (zoro included) put their faith in to defeat kaido
Luffy being the one carrying wano on his back
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Both kaido and oden knew of joyboys return
Kaido somehow knowing from what yamato had told him that he's the man that will defeat him
We knew oden was also awakening his return and wanted wano to welcome him with open borders. While the boarders could be open before he got there opening them in general was still his dream
Odens two most important dreams are 1 to adventure and 2 to open wano
"Coincidentally" luffy is the one all the samurai (zoro included) put their faith in to defeat kaido
Luffy being the one carrying wano on his back
Kaido somehow knowing from what yamato had told him that he's the man that will defeat him
We knew oden was also awakening his return and wanted wano to welcome him with open borders. While the boarders could be open before he got there opening them in general was still his dream
Odens two most important dreams are 1 to adventure and 2 to open wano
- Both things yamato wants to and help accomplish do in his place
- The thing Momonosuke has to officially do as shogun
- The thing he entrusted his retainers to help accomplish
- The thing joyboy is going to assure happens even tho it couldn't happen before he got there
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"Coincidentally" luffy is the one all the samurai (zoro included) put their faith in to defeat kaido
Luffy being the one carrying wano on his back
Like defeating Kaido isn't Luffy's dream, but what he has to do to achieve that dream
So for Oden, he had to kill/decapitate Kaido in order to achieve that dream of opening Wano's borderr
I don't know why you people keep limitiing one's dream anyways
Luffy has like a gazzilion dreams outside of being thePK
?
Killing kaido isn't a part of odens dream
Opening wano is bigger than just kaido or even oden himself
Oden knew even if it wasn't him that kaido was going to be defeated in a 20 year timespan
Oden did have multiple massive dreams integral to him
1. Going out to sea to adventure and be free
2. Have wano open up
Killing kaido isnt
Luffy also has 2 main dreams
1. Become the pirate king aka the freest man and just have fun and adventure
2. Whatever he and roger said
To accomplish his dream luffy is going to have to fight and defeat yonko. Defeating yonko isn't his dream
Killing kaido isn't a part of odens dream
Opening wano is bigger than just kaido or even oden himself
Oden knew even if it wasn't him that kaido was going to be defeated in a 20 year timespan
Oden did have multiple massive dreams integral to him
1. Going out to sea to adventure and be free
2. Have wano open up
Killing kaido isnt
Luffy also has 2 main dreams
1. Become the pirate king aka the freest man and just have fun and adventure
2. Whatever he and roger said
To accomplish his dream luffy is going to have to fight and defeat yonko. Defeating yonko isn't his dream
