Role Madness Too Many Doctors (Game Thread)

[Stargate18]

Then they’re intentionally causing a mislynch if they read the player in the PoE Town and don’t follow which is throwing, so best to kill that slot.

???

If I, as town, believe that one of your pics is wrong and do not visit them, thus stopping that person from dying, how is that throwing?

Isn't that like saying that if a vig chooses not to shoot someone they find towny, they're throwing?

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

so hypothetically if there were 3 town kills at night and u get 1 scum the first night
u r just going to continue next night with ur 3 kills?? and what if u get no scum the second time? 5 townies dead bc u decided to speedrun

the idea is these r all town controlled kills so if we fk up we fk up, it wud just accelerate momentum = townie no matter what

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

We can also just have 2 targets for safety reasons.
But not coordinating actions is dumb as fuck.

if we lynch scum day 1 then 2 targets is fine yes

 

[hime]

That’s where you’re wrong. Imagine we mislynch, scum have a free kill and if some Townies use their actions uncoordinated (you can always assume most want to use and not abstain) you can even cause many more deaths at night than via a coordinated targeting.

if everyone abstains, scum dont have a free kill
all the have is their faction kill

ur assuming inactives r going to read thru 1000 tags on diff ppl they should shoot and all go abt it in a coordinated fashion
its far easier to just set one standard the entire game bc thats easy for everyone to follow

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

vote lynch hime

spewing too much nonsense

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

???

If I, as town, believe that one of your pics is wrong and do not visit them, thus stopping that person from dying, how is that throwing?

Isn't that like saying that if a vig chooses not to shoot someone they find towny, they're throwing?

not u too stargate ;/

 

[Flower]

???

If I, as town, believe that one of your pics is wrong and do not visit them, thus stopping that person from dying, how is that throwing?

Isn't that like saying that if a vig chooses not to shoot someone they find towny, they're throwing?

Well no, because you risk them surviving this way. And if people see them survive they will mislynch them the next day and assume most of those 7 players are Mafia when let’s say most are Docs and just didn’t target that player. Thus chaining miskills and losing Town the game.

 

[Stargate18]

We can also just have 2 targets for safety reasons.
But not coordinating actions is dumb as fuck.

The real issue is that coordinating actions will, naturally, give scum info. If we coordinate too obviously, scum will be more likely to NK someone who wasn't visited, thus increasing the number of townies total.

...And this is, of course, assuming that scum don't simply try to play whoever makes this list, since this will effectively be making it so every night has four lynches. If scum have good threadpull, they can do a lot with that.

 

[Flower]

if everyone abstains, scum dont have a free kill
all the have is their faction kill

ur assuming inactives r going to read thru 1000 tags on diff ppl they should shoot and all go abt it in a coordinated fashion
its far easier to just set one standard the entire game bc thats easy for everyone to follow

The faction kill is the free kill. And again, nobody wants to play Vanilla. This is Role Madness. Might as well use the powers we have instead of holstering.

 

[Crowned Witch]

𝐼 𝑎𝑠𝑠𝑢𝑚𝑒 𝑚𝑜𝑠𝑡 𝑑𝑜𝑐𝑡𝑜𝑟𝑠 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑖𝑟 𝑎𝑏𝑖𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑦 𝑎𝑛𝑦𝑤𝑎𝑦. 𝐼𝑓 𝑤𝑒 𝑑𝑜𝑛'𝑡 𝑐𝑜𝑜𝑟𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑎𝑡𝑒 𝑐ℎ𝑎𝑛𝑐𝑒𝑠 𝑎𝑟𝑒 ℎ𝑖𝑔ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑚𝑜𝑠𝑡 𝑡𝑜𝑤𝑛𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑑 𝑝𝑙𝑎𝑦𝑒𝑟𝑠 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑔𝑜𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡𝑜 𝑎𝑐𝑐𝑖𝑑𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑙𝑦 𝑔𝑒𝑡 𝑘𝑖𝑙𝑙𝑒𝑑 𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑖𝑟𝑠𝑡 𝑛𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡 𝑏𝑒𝑐𝑎𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑚𝑜𝑟𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑛 𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑑𝑜𝑐𝑡𝑜𝑟 𝑑𝑒𝑐𝑖𝑑𝑒𝑑 𝑡𝑜 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑡𝑒𝑐𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑚.

 

[hime]

The real issue is that coordinating actions will, naturally, give scum info. If we coordinate too obviously, scum will be more likely to NK someone who wasn't visited, thus increasing the number of townies total.

...And this is, of course, assuming that scum don't simply try to play whoever makes this list, since this will effectively be making it so every night has four lynches. If scum have good threadpull, they can do a lot with that.

finally someone with a fucking brain

 

[Alwaysmind]

not probably, it is straight up the most effective way to do so

mafia doesnt have a way to survive town kills outside of a 1x roleblock. town can fire about 7 kill shots per night if we coordinate properly (unlikely)

this is basically like a weird form of dethy setup, a more town favored one

statistically i found the best way to approach this is we create a PoE of 5-7 slots by end of the day. lynch one of them and then do this:

arrange the 5 poe guys like this:
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.

then, from the real playerlist, players whose number divided by 4 = 1 (rounded down), visits player 1
players whose number divided by 4 = 2 (rounded down) visits player 2 in the poe
etc.. until we cover all 5 suspects

this covers all contingencies i can think off

Isn't this how Josephus tricked everyone into dying so that he could live?

Very sus Dr. Kekko.

 

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[Ali v2]

basically no reason to assume worst case scenario when this is something in our control, if we make a bad poe, then fk it thats our fault, but if we get a good one we win. think of it as town having alot of vig shots basically. u dont have to all shoot night 1 but itd be stupid to not blast a few down poe, specially since there r no cops or whatever this game so no townies will be intentionally playing sus to survive longer and we dont need to worry about power roles hiding among poe

why are you so confident we make a "good one" on D1 tho, we have nothing basically and am starting to flip out as if the game continues like this rhythm, we are pretty much fucked.

Another odd post from you ekko.

 

[Flower]

The real issue is that coordinating actions will, naturally, give scum info. If we coordinate too obviously, scum will be more likely to NK someone who wasn't visited, thus increasing the number of townies total.

...And this is, of course, assuming that scum don't simply try to play whoever makes this list, since this will effectively be making it so every night has four lynches. If scum have good threadpull, they can do a lot with that.

And the alternative is again, that people use actions how they want and cause more deaths. Fucking hell.

21 players.
First 11 on the player list if Doc focus on Player 1.
The other 10 on Player 2.
Or we just have 1 target. Any coordination is better than letting people use their stuff willy nilly.

 

[Stargate18]

𝐼 𝑎𝑠𝑠𝑢𝑚𝑒 𝑚𝑜𝑠𝑡 𝑑𝑜𝑐𝑡𝑜𝑟𝑠 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑖𝑟 𝑎𝑏𝑖𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑦 𝑎𝑛𝑦𝑤𝑎𝑦. 𝐼𝑓 𝑤𝑒 𝑑𝑜𝑛'𝑡 𝑐𝑜𝑜𝑟𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑎𝑡𝑒 𝑐ℎ𝑎𝑛𝑐𝑒𝑠 𝑎𝑟𝑒 ℎ𝑖𝑔ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑚𝑜𝑠𝑡 𝑡𝑜𝑤𝑛𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑑 𝑝𝑙𝑎𝑦𝑒𝑟𝑠 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑔𝑜𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡𝑜 𝑎𝑐𝑐𝑖𝑑𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑙𝑦 𝑔𝑒𝑡 𝑘𝑖𝑙𝑙𝑒𝑑 𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑖𝑟𝑠𝑡 𝑛𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡 𝑏𝑒𝑐𝑎𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑚𝑜𝑟𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑛 𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑑𝑜𝑐𝑡𝑜𝑟 𝑑𝑒𝑐𝑖𝑑𝑒𝑑 𝑡𝑜 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑡𝑒𝑐𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑚.

If you really want to have coordination, just have people claim what actions/who they're going to visit that day. It'll be a lot easier to catch out scum that way, and we play things slowly we can probably catch scum from their mech, instead of just lynching four times as fast and praying we hit scum.

 

[hime]

The faction kill is the free kill. And again, nobody wants to play Vanilla. This is Role Madness. Might as well use the powers we have instead of holstering.

scum r ALWAYS going to have their faction kill no matter what the fuck u do
if u coordinate actions, omg guess what!!! scum can just shoot whoever town isnt targeting

just bc its role madness doesnt mean its the best way to play it
y do u think abstaining always exists in these games?

 

[Stargate18]

And the alternative is again, that people use actions how they want and cause more deaths. Fucking hell.

21 players.
First 11 on the player list if Doc focus on Player 1.
The other 10 on Player 2.
Or we just have 1 target. Any coordination is better than letting people use their stuff willy nilly.

If you really want to have coordination, just have people claim what actions/who they're going to visit that day. It'll be a lot easier to catch out scum that way, and we play things slowly we can probably catch scum from their mech, instead of just lynching four times as fast and praying we hit scum.

 

[Yoho]

🤔 interesting

 

[Flower]

No, denied.