General & Others Top 5 Oda L’s of Wano

#81
What is done is done and now the focus is on the big final
I am going to read OP until the final chapter because I am excited/curious to see how it ends. However, I am expecting Oda to off screen different plot lines/characters. Also he may use the SBS to answer things that he can’t in the manga. In other words, I am cautiously optimistic that the rest of OP will be good, but I also live in the real world and recognize Oda’s patterns.
 
#82
For an arc that was 150 chapter, Oda didn’t reveal anything. His editors need to sit down with him and tell him this arc will be 60 chapters. What are you going to focus on? What do you want your characters to learn/accomplish? What lore can you share? The editors clearly let him go on and on until he gets burnt out.
It's too bad that Oda admitted, "he doesn't like editors who tell him what to do because this is my story"; paraphrasing his actual quote. If he only will listen to them the story will be better. But at the same time, I question the editors too because I remember one of the editors saying he was crying because of the scabbard/kaido chapter lol. Not sure what they are doing.
 
#83
It's too bad that Oda admitted, "he doesn't like editors who tell him what to do because this is my story"; paraphrasing his actual quote. If he only will listen to them the story will be better. But at the same time, I question the editors too because I remember one of the editors saying he was crying because of the scabbard/kaido chapter lol. Not sure what they are doing.
Writing and editing are two different skills, and both are necessary to create a story. The writer needs to be creative, but the editor needs to trim the fat and make the story more concise. How many run piece chapters did we get in Wano? Editors can obviously enjoy a story and be proud of the work they are doing, but they need to be objective thinkers. Blind fanboyism doesn’t help anyone.
 
#85
A example of people who pretend that Shitty Country Arc was a great arc are Condom-Boy's fans. Condom-Boy was the only character who ate like a millionaire in that arc,while every other character lived on crumbs. One of Condom-Boy's flaws as a character is that he has a overbearing presence in the story that turns the supporting cast and villains into jokes,but his fans don't give a shit about this. They don't care about how much any character gets mistreated,as long as their idol gets embellished.
@Water1415 @Shiroyru @The White Crane @TheKnightOfTheSea @Fleet Leader Fenaker @Blazing Lion
@Nidai_Kitetsu @ZenZu @SakazOuki @gz89 @lee33
 
#87
1-Big Mom Pirates didn't do shit.
2-Tama was a cheap way to get rid of the Smile df users threat.
3-Brook,Ussop and Nami didn't get proper 1v1 match ups.
4-Jack and Perospero got beaten in a few panels.
5-Kaido and Big Mom both died the same way(BM should have drowned imo).
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You have it backwards. His editors control him like a puppet. Who ever talked Oda out of the usopp vs blueno or the Usopp/Garp scene is REAL LIFE IMU!
i didnt know we were supposed to get Ussop vs Blueno :(
 
#88
A example of people who pretend that Shitty Country Arc was a great arc are Condom-Boy's fans. Condom-Boy was the only character who ate like a millionaire in that arc,while every other character lived on crumbs. One of Condom-Boy's flaws as a character is that he has a overbearing presence in the story that turns the supporting cast and villains into jokes,but his fans don't give a shit about this. They don't care about how much any character gets mistreated,as long as their idol gets embellished.
@Water1415 @Shiroyru @The White Crane @TheKnightOfTheSea @Fleet Leader Fenaker @Blazing Lion
@Nidai_Kitetsu @ZenZu @SakazOuki @gz89 @lee33
Can't argue with that. I mean, just look at @Adamxero. :gokulaugh:
 
#94
Pretty much all of it , 90% of Wano was trash other than rooftop and Law & Kidd hype.

Gear 5 is decent but it kinda ruins the excitement for fights they'll all be the same silly and stupid.
Luffy needs at least 1 edgy transformation just to switch it up a bit.
 
#95
Nidai Kitetsu and grave plot for Zoro.

Probably too many to list for the rest of the arc. Kid should've been given Yamato's role of stalling Kaido before going to beat Big mom.
 
#98
1) Lack of tension.I don't think anyone ever thought that the situation is dangerous after the prison mini arc.Ever since Kaido one-shot Luffy, which I admit was very cool and put their strength gap into perspective, it's either been all Ws or Ls that didn't cost ANYTHING.
Luffy was getting knocked out again and again but it was okay, he just came back after someone bought time for him and his defeats had no repercussions at all.
2) Big Mom should have been knocked out by Damned Punk.I don't get the bomb thing at all, it just makes the Supernova W look less impressive.Kid's attacks overall weren't nearly as impactful as Law's.
3) Usopp.He's literally a shell of his old self and it's been 10 years irl since he last did anything in the manga.From a very important character to the most neglected strawhat.That's really sad to see tbh.
4) Yamato.I just don't get the whole I'm Oden shit.Why couldn't they just be trans or something? Why assume someone else's identity? It's such a nonsensical decision.So many panels wasted on Yamato, that could have been used on Usopp/Chopper/Brook.
5) Retconned deaths (Izo and Ashura lmao), dropped plot lines left and right, Kaido literally having the worst backstory out of all one piece villains.

All in all, Oda started this Yonko saga back in punk hazard, around 400 chapters ago (~12 years) only for it to be rushed by either him or his editors or because of that dumb film red.Very disappointing arc, albeit still good.
 
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