Character Discussion Trafalgar Law and Eustass Kid will both come back stronger in the story

[Hyakujuu Kaido]

They might come back, but they won’t be stronger. They were at their peak when they fought BB and Shanks. The whole Wano arc made sure that we saw their ultimate potential. But that’s it. They won’t be anymore relevant, let alone stronger. They could be part of SH Grand Fleet. But won’t reach Jimbei in importance and powerwise. Like the other captains of WhiteBeard grand fleet in Marineford.

You are not reading properly if you think that they arent coming back stronger the hints are literally in the manga after wano Law learned that a lot of haki can negate devil fruits abilities and he was able to use his awakening right of the bat against blackbeard. Same for Kid we saw him spam his strongest attack agaisnt shanks fleet and he has the potential of getting coc one day. The manga cannot stress this enough. DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE GROWTH OF THESE YOUNGSTERS

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Law undoubtedly, it’s Kid that I’m worried about because his pk ambition is down the drain, what would his new motivation even be? I suppose bringing down the corrupt govt system could match his rebellious attitude.

We saw throughout wano that in term of willpower Kid doesnt fall short of NO ONE. He will never become pirate king but I highly doubt that he is going to give up on his dream like that. I have hopes that he will get some character focus in elbaf though if the straw hats happened to end up there just like law in dressrosa

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This is the first time I see someone say this and I agree.
Kidd is awakened, he capped his DF and the only way he can grow stronger is by improving his haki. Will Kidd ever use haki? No.

Where did you get that they have capped their devil fruit?

They have not mastered their awakening yet they arent completly used to it.

and right after wano we literally saw an improvement from kid... I dont get it why wont you guys acknowledge them. Was their defeat agaisnt 2 of the 5 strongest people in the world that disappointing? and yes kid will get acoc one day that is guaranteed I highly doubt oda gave him coc for nothing

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How many of these threads are we going to have? These are the same type of thread that we've seen during Wano explaining why Kidd will be a rival in the OP race until the end and Yonko level at EOS.
It's not happening, it is not his role in the story. He has been a bum since post ts started. And a bum he will remain.
He can't use haki and he is awakened meaning what we saw from him is his peak. YC level characters, nothing more.

Law is another story since Oda had him escape BB and seems to have thought a lot about his character and role in the manga post ts.

They will both come back but don't exepct anything impressive from Kidd, he will be nothing more than a Luffy fanboy and a weakling (but we already knew that).

I think you just hate Kid

"He is awakened meaning what we saw from him is his peak." 1 week later we see an improvement in his devil fruit lmao. I bet if I asked you if Luffy wwas done getting stronger with his devil fruit even though he is awakened you would obviously say no. All this because you dont like Kid

I keep repeating myself because of people like you but ODA had SHANKS tell his crew and the reader "DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE KID DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE HOW FAST THESE YOUNGSTERS GROW" Stop glossing over that. Kid and Law are still young and are far from having reached their peak especially Kid who has the potential of getting acoc one day.

Once again, Shanks himself does NOT underestimate Kid so why should you?

 

[Aknolagon]

The elbaf arc hasn’t even started yet.

Kid still has a chance to get revenge against the RHP(Beckman), even if he won’t outright 1v1 Shanks. Also, Kid could help Teach beat Shanks.

I'm asking you honestly. During Wano, when we have multiples opponents, Kidd had nothing except Big Mom and that was with Law. Even during the fight, everyone agree Law shined the most and did mostly everything. At the end, they just pushed Big Mom who was still awake and Oda used the bomb to knock her out. After Wano, in a 1 vs 1 like you said Kidd failed against Shanks.

Maybe he gonna have a role in Elbaf, but no way Kidd gonna play a role in BB vs RH, they are too powerful.

So with all of those things that happened, Oda never gave Kidd any good treatment. Why now ? Oda is clueless with Kidd and his power or we can say he doesn't want Kidd to shine because afraid of Luffy's image ...

So tbf, I don't think Oda wanna do something with him. Not after what happened during Wano and post Wano.

 

[Roo]

Lol even Croc came back stronger. Ofc Kid and Law will gain a power boost when they come back into the story

 

[Aknolagon]

Lol even Croc came back stronger. Ofc Kid and Law will gain a power boost when they come back into the story

This.
Oda and his only way to reedem wasted characters and weaklings ...

 

[ShadyOjiro]

They'll return but not as relevant as in Wano.
Law has a chance to have a special treatment due being a D.

Expecting something bigger than being in the PK race for Kidd is hilarious.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Bro, Wano solidified Kidd and Law as the two most important figures in Post-TS after Luffy. Thinking Kidd won't play an important role in either defeating the Admirals or the Gorosei is nonsensical.

I'm not talking about Law, the way Oda had him escaped vs BB means he might come back to help Luffy when they go after BB.
Kidd will come back for support. No big 1v1 is waiting for him nor big feats. He has none and won't get any.

 

[kumae]

Law:for sure he had to run away because frauda can't kill or let even be kidnapped populars characters besides he has the ope ope he has to play his role with that or whstever bullshit frauda came up
Kid: giants will rescue him for defeating meme but him and killer will be lucci/kaku for luffy/zoro later will be"hey mugiwara i'm not done" but we all know he will bellamy 2.0

 

[Hyakujuu Kaido]

I'm asking you honestly. During Wano, when we have multiples opponents, Kidd had nothing except Big Mom and that was with Law. Even during the fight, everyone agree Law shined the most and did mostly everything. At the end, they just pushed Big Mom who was still awake and Oda used the bomb to knock her out. After Wano, in a 1 vs 1 like you said Kidd failed against Shanks.

Maybe he gonna have a role in Elbaf, but no way Kidd gonna play a role in BB vs RH, they are too powerful.

So with all of those things that happened, Oda never gave Kidd any good treatment. Why now ? Oda is clueless with Kidd and his power or we can say he doesn't want Kidd to shine because afraid of Luffy's image ...

So tbf, I don't think Oda wanna do something with him. Not after what happened during Wano and post Wano.

"Kid had nothing except big mom" aka he had nothing except the 2nd hardest fight in the arc? why you downplaying that lol
Kid and Law defeated a yonko in wano. No matter how much you try to downplay it that IS impressive, much more impressive than defeating a commander that is just simply facts. He then proceeded to get negged by shanks but oda had him emphasized that he is not weak and should not be underestimating, keep that in your mind so you wont be surprised when he comes back and keep getting stronger since the hints are legit in the manga

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I'm not talking about Law, the way Oda had him escaped vs BB means he might come back to help Luffy when they go after BB.
Kidd will come back for support. No big 1v1 is waiting for him nor big feats. He has none and won't get any.

"No big 1v1 is waiting for him nor big feats. He has none and won't get any"

Why are you exposing yourself like that lmao

look at how many competent fighters the wg has and you THINK that Kid a rising pirate will not get to fight and defeat atleast one of them in the future war? Please lol

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They'll return but not as relevant as in Wano.
Law has a chance to have a special treatment due being a D.

Expecting something bigger than being in the PK race for Kidd is hilarious.

 

[park_min young]

Ofc they will come back stronger, they are prime candidates for taking out the Gorosei. Right now, they are out of the PK race though. I’m expecting for Law to help against Imu directly too. Him being a D, and the ope-ope user secured a significant role in the final war.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

You are not reading properly if you think that they arent coming back stronger the hints are literally in the manga after wano Law learned that a lot of haki can negate devil fruits abilities and he was able to use his awakening right of the bat against blackbeard. Same for Kid we saw him spam his strongest attack agaisnt shanks fleet and he has the potential of getting coc one day. The manga cannot stress this enough. DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE GROWTH OF THESE YOUNGSTERS

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We saw throughout wano that in term of willpower Kid doesnt fall short of NO ONE. He will never become pirate king but I highly doubt that he is going to give up on his dream like that. I have hopes that he will get some character focus in elbaf though if the straw hats happened to end up there just like law in dressrosa

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Where did you get that they have capped their devil fruit?

They have not mastered their awakening yet they arent completly used to it.

and right after wano we literally saw an improvement from kid... I dont get it why wont you guys acknowledge them. Was their defeat agaisnt 2 of the 5 strongest people in the world that disappointing? and yes kid will get acoc one day that is guaranteed I highly doubt oda gave him coc for nothing

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I think you just hate Kid

"He is awakened meaning what we saw from him is his peak." 1 week later we see an improvement in his devil fruit lmao. I bet if I asked you if Luffy wwas done getting stronger with his devil fruit even though he is awakened you would obviously say no. All this because you dont like Kid

I keep repeating myself because of people like you but ODA had SHANKS tell his crew and the reader "DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE KID DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE HOW FAST THESE YOUNGSTERS GROW" Stop glossing over that. Kid and Law are still young and are far from having reached their peak especially Kid who has the potential of getting acoc one day.

Once again, Shanks himself does NOT underestimate Kid so why should you?

They haven't mastered their awakenings but use them from the get go?
Kidd and Law are stuck with the same moves they used in Wano because they peaked, the new moves could be part of their regular moveset but they aren't.
Punk dammed and shock/Puncture wille is the peak of their devil fruits.

 

[The White Crane]

Kidd will come back for support. No big 1v1 is waiting for him nor big feats. He has none and won't get any.

Wishful thinking, man. Sorry, but Wano clearly says otherwise.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

. Even during the fight, everyone agree Law shined the most and did mostly everything.

That’s just agendas and fan favoritism.

Any critical reading of the text shows that Kid was the driving force of the BM fight.

1. Kid was the reason BM left the rooftop and began the BM fight in 1013.
2. Kid and Law only began to make ground after Kid was un-nerfed via Hawkins defeat
3. Kid played the ultimate role of pushing BM off Onigashima

Law’s DF is more dangerous, but Kid objectively played a more critical role in the fight.

The fight literally started and ended with him.

 

[Cozy Sofa]

Kid and Law will be back. The thing is they aren't Pirate King material. At best they might be the new generations equivalents of Kaido and Big Mom. I did have hope for Kidd to be a new WB - just short of PK Roger - but it seems unlikely at the moment.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Jikka Kidd.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Wishful thinking, man. Sorry, but Wano clearly says otherwise.

We don't have the same Wano analysis regarding Kidd's character. I really can't see what top tier he is supposed to beat 1v1 when he comes back.

 

[bluefire12]

I'm not talking about Law, the way Oda had him escaped vs BB means he might come back to help Luffy when they go after BB.
Kidd will come back for support. No big 1v1 is waiting for him nor big feats. He has none and won't get any.

I can see him trying to fight Shanks again

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

 

[Bepo D. Bear]

Lika

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Lika

 

[Wh1p]

They're out of the pirate king race, but they aren't done as pirates. It's going to take time to rebound but they will come back stronger and with Kidd I hope wiser. They have future emperor potential.