Questions & Mysteries Up to this pointWhich SH is the most mysterious (we know the least about)

Who currently is the most mysterious Strawhat

  • Sanji

    Votes: 6 9.1%
  • Franky

    Votes: 5 7.6%
  • Jimbei

    Votes: 2 3.0%
  • Chopper

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Zoro

    Votes: 24 36.4%
  • Robin

    Votes: 2 3.0%
  • Nami

    Votes: 8 12.1%
  • Usopp

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Brook

    Votes: 19 28.8%

  • Total voters
    66
#21
You literally made this thread because of my statement. This whole thing is for my supposed "twisted reason". When I said Sanji is the most mysterious, I meant due to many things about him which still remain a mystery. Not how many supposed mysteries he could have that have never been hinted at.

If your not gonna use my defintion...best keep my name out of it then. Since your clearly twisting my words and making easier to give relevance to characters....that Oda isnt even bothered expanding on.
Let's use your mysterious foreshadowings about what has not been resolved or answered about Sanji in WCI. 3 below are your quotes regarding that.

- Nothing about his mother and Sora the Hero link
- Nothing about the curly eyebrow
- Nothing about Vegapunk or the Drug that affected Sanji

These are no longer mysteries, the literary terms that they are now either a red herrings, basically wild goose chases since Oda choose not to answer those questions during his arc or they are known as a term "Chekov's Gun" something the author states they want you to be aware of when they

Or what you described is mysterious foreshadowing

You wrote Sanji is the most mysterious SH, which is false, being foreshadowed is different than being a completely mysterious person
 
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#25
Let's use your mysterious foreshadowings about what has not been resolved or answered about Sanji in WCI. 3 below are your quotes regarding that.

- Nothing about his mother and Sora the Hero link
- Nothing about the curly eyebrow
- Nothing about Vegapunk or the Drug that affected Sanji

These are no longer mysteries, the literary terms that they are now either a red herrings, basically wild goose chases since Oda choose not to answer those questions during his arc or they are known as a term "Chekov's Gun" something the author states they want you to be aware of when they

Or what you described is mysterious foreshadowing

You wrote Sanji is the most mysterious SH, which is false, being foreshadowed is different than being a completely mysterious person
How are they no longer mysteries ? Oda hinted at them and never answered them. They are still mysteries in the story and plot.

The Vinsmoke plot hasnt magically ended, theyre gonna come back sooner or later. And some of these mysteries maybe answered. They may never be answered. However they still were hinted at and foreshadowed. Oda created intrigue around it.

Characters....such as Zoro and their upbringing....is irrelevant. Thus why he isnt mysterious. Oda just doesnt give a fuck about him.
 
#26
How are they no longer mysteries ? Oda hinted at them and never answered them. They are still mysteries in the story and plot.

The Vinsmoke plot hasnt magically ended, theyre gonna come back sooner or later. And some of these mysteries maybe answered. They may never be answered. However they still were hinted at and foreshadowed. Oda created intrigue around it.

Characters....such as Zoro and their upbringing....is irrelevant. Thus why he isnt mysterious. Oda just doesnt give a fuck about him.
Did you just say Zoro is irrelevant while being number one Sanjitard on the forum?

Zoros bandana has more relevance than Sanji to the story.

When has Oda given a flying fuck about Sanjis goals? No mention of all blue in all those years, irrelevant **** flip flopping on goals from wanting to he a sex offender to wanting to see mermaid tits to idk even know what

Man has not had a proper fight in like many arcs even before time skip

All Sanji got was one fucking arc and even in that he was more of a damsel in distress than Nico Robin was in Enies Lobby.

Zoro on the other hand Oda literally has fleshed out more and spent time and effort on than any other character in One Piece.

Calling Zoro irrelevant is as dumb as calling Luffy irrelevant
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And all those things about Sanji are the things Oda gives zero fucks about because one arc Sanji got, Oda didn't focus on that.

Even though Oda said "Sanji will never be that cool again" in a gag manner, you better take that seriously. Just like he is a back ground character in Wano, he will be a back ground character for rest of the story until they run into all blue and he would get a few relevant pages.
 
#27
Did you just say Zoro is irrelevant while being number one Sanjitard on the forum?

Zoros bandana has more relevance than Sanji to the story.

When has Oda given a flying fuck about Sanjis goals? No mention of all blue in all those years, irrelevant **** flip flopping on goals from wanting to he a sex offender to wanting to see mermaid tits to idk even know what

Man has not had a proper fight in like many arcs even before time skip

All Sanji got was one fucking arc and even in that he was more of a damsel in distress than Nico Robin was in Enies Lobby.

Zoro on the other hand Oda literally has fleshed out more and spent time and effort on than any other character in One Piece.

Calling Zoro irrelevant is as dumb as calling Luffy irrelevant
Question ? Are you on your period lately ? You seem to be wailing in every thread like a child:choppawhat:
 
#32
How are they no longer mysteries ? Oda hinted at them and never answered them. They are still mysteries in the story and plot.

The Vinsmoke plot hasnt magically ended, theyre gonna come back sooner or later. And some of these mysteries maybe answered. They may never be answered. However they still were hinted at and foreshadowed. Oda created intrigue around it.

Characters....such as Zoro and their upbringing....is irrelevant. Thus why he isnt mysterious. Oda just doesnt give a fuck about him.
Because we've expanded on Sanji's past and Oda choose not to include your points in the arc, it's obsolete to the storyline. Thus not making Sanji's character mysterious

The Vinsmoke plot is a red herring. Sanji's plot in regard to your points made earlier is not a red herring but is Partial/Msterious foreshadowing.

That doesnt make his character mysterious.
 

KiriNigiri

The Road To Harmony
#34
Before WCI, that was probably Sanji but that's not the case anymore. I think there are 3 valid answers : Zoro, Brook and Nami. We don't know anything about their parents and where they come from. There are a lot of unknowns regarding their past.
You reminded me of Franky, who's parents were pirates that abandoned him. Probably won't lead to anywhere, but it's as valid a mystery as where the others came from.

Adding on to Nami, Vivi considered her navigating skills almost super natural.


As far as I can remember, this hasn't been re-addressed.
 

Seth

𝐊𝐨𝐤𝐮𝐭𝐨 𝐒𝐡𝐮𝐬𝐮𝐢
#35
Zoro, Brook, and Nami. As we know every Straw Hat is connected or related to some big names or has an interesting past.

Luffy= Dragon, Garp and etc.
Sanji= Germa, Zeff.
Jinbe= Fisher Tiger, Big Mom, Whitebeard.
Robin= Olvia, Ohara
Franky= Tom, Roger, Pluton blueprints.
Usopp= Yasopp.
Chopper= Hiriluk and Kureha.

We know shit about Zoro and Nami's past before they were trained in the dojo and adopted by Bellemere respectively.
We also know shit about Brook's past and the mysterious death of his crew and Yorki his Captain.
 
#36
Because we've expanded on Sanji's past and Oda choose not to include your points in the arc, it's obsolete to the storyline. Thus not making Sanji's character mysterious

The Vinsmoke plot is a red herring. Sanji's plot in regard to your points made earlier is not a red herring but is Partial/Msterious foreshadowing.

That doesnt make his character mysterious.
Clearly Sanji's side plot with the Vinsmokes isnt over though. Youve got to be some kind of stupid to thinl the Vinsmokes wont ever come back to Sanji and have a side plotline with him. Since there was obviously no clousure in WCI.

Zoro, Brook and Nami....people you've mentioned also already have had their flashbacks. And just cause Sanji has had 2....doesnt mean they are as well. Oda has not highlighted or thrown any intrigue in anything that would remotely make them "mysterious" characters.

Sanji being the most developed....is still more mysterious then them.
 
#37
Clearly Sanji's side plot with the Vinsmokes isnt over though. Youve got to be some kind of stupid to thinl the Vinsmokes wont ever come back to Sanji and have a side plotline with him. Since there was obviously no clousure in WCI.

Zoro, Brook and Nami....people you've mentioned also already have had their flashbacks. And just cause Sanji has had 2....doesnt mean they are as well. Oda has not highlighted or thrown any intrigue in anything that would remotely make them "mysterious" characters.

Sanji being the most developed....is still more mysterious then them.
The vinsmoke storyline is a red herring, and wont be involved in any main plotline. Maybe a tine side story similar to Kitetsu sayiing in one panel about Kozaburo. Sanji's charcter was further developed due to Oda writing about his characters past and relation with Vinsmokes in WCI hence his character isnt mysterious

Any idea about a future main events that happen to the SHs that involve the vinsmokes is a red herring.

Zoro had a one chapter flashback, we know nothing of his actual orgins, family, etc we only know he started off in Shimotsuki village, similar to how Sanji's flashbacks were with Zeff where he aspired to become a chef and look for the all blue, similar to how Zoro wanted to become WSS in honor of Kuina.
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Zoro, Brook, and Nami. As we know every Straw Hat is connected or related to some big names or has an interesting past.

Luffy= Dragon, Garp and etc.
Sanji= Germa, Zeff.
Jinbe= Fisher Tiger, Big Mom, Whitebeard.
Robin= Olvia, Ohara
Franky= Tom, Roger, Pluton blueprints.
Usopp= Yasopp.
Chopper= Hiriluk and Kureha.

We know shit about Zoro and Nami's past before they were trained in the dojo and adopted by Bellemere respectively.
We also know shit about Brook's past and the mysterious death of his crew and Yorki his Captain.
Thanks Seth
 
#39
Brook for me, also the most interesting... Other than his Rumbar Pirates history (which isn't even that clear since it only tackled the story with Laboon) and the mention that he's a former army from a certain place, we know nothing about his BG... Even the pirate crew who annihilated his old crew is a mystery, oh even the disease that killed Yorki and others...

Then we have Zoro, since it's not clear if he's also a child of one of the Wano exiles... Then we have Nami, there has to be some connection between her natural weather sense and her origins... Last would be Franky, who is his pirate father?
 
#40
Clearly Sanji's side plot with the Vinsmokes isnt over though. Youve got to be some kind of stupid to thinl the Vinsmokes wont ever come back to Sanji and have a side plotline with him. Since there was obviously no clousure in WCI.

Zoro, Brook and Nami....people you've mentioned also already have had their flashbacks. And just cause Sanji has had 2....doesnt mean they are as well. Oda has not highlighted or thrown any intrigue in anything that would remotely make them "mysterious" characters.

Sanji being the most developed....is still more mysterious then them.
Sanji is neither most developed, nor most mysterious.
He is a shit tier character who is not worth a dime
No one gives a shit about Sanji, so much for his development in WCI when some of his biggest fans are former Sanji fans after WCI.

Sanji has only regressed.

Zoro is the most developed and fleshed phrase character in the straw hats and even in the series.

I mean Luffy obviously has to most on screen presence (followed by Zoro), there isn't much with him to flesh out.

But with Sanji, he has virtually been a side character despite being in the main crew in every arc besides WCI. And in WCI when he was treated as a main character, he was one of the shittiest characters in One Piece.
 
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