Character Discussion Vinsmoke Sanji, the official vice-captain of the crew

[Infitima]

Anyway, Sanji isn't Vice Captain because IRL pirates normally don't have those.

Quartermaster is typically second in command followed by first and second mate.

If you look at what duties a Quartermaster does..
-Control and command when Captain is not around.
-Protector of the crew under captain.
-Although not the navigator, skilled in navigation as a secondary and supervisor of helmsman.
-Sorts supplies and treasure, worries about financials and food stock.

If you take Sanji and Nami as a team their skills together make up Quartermaster.

Sanji protects, commands, strategizes, has navigated and done ship handling, supervises Jinbe at times, and deals with inventory.

Nami navigates, sorts treasure and supplies and has supervised.

The only thing Zoro matches for Quartermaster is protect at times and dealing out punishments.

 

[MUUGEN]

The case was different with Ussop though Sanji was forced to leave because of blackmail to kill Zeff .

didn’t trust in the crew or his captain…

 

[Julius]

didn’t trust in the crew or his captain…

Not trusting is different from taking precautions to avoid the worst scenarios, specially when the subject is an altrustic person

 

[Wizak08]

He has done this since pre-ts yet oda never referred him as VC, anyways Zoro being both the combatant and the organiser every time will have the rest do nothing, that's why him and luffy are dumb and only fight.

 

[HA001]

didn’t trust in the crew or his captain…

Was literally what Robin did

 

[RYNO]

Lol saying "official vice captain" when oda has made this

 

[MUUGEN]

Not trusting is different from taking precautions to avoid the worst scenarios, specially when the subject is an altrustic person

Luffy does things that are selfish but he always has full faith in his crew no matter what the challenge is or threats are against them.

Sanji is a bum

 

[MUUGEN]

Was literally what Robin did

that was when she was barely apart of the crew for one arc and CP-9 and the WG was a legitimate threat tj the crew.

this is post-ts, stop trying to compare the two they are nothing alike.

Sanji literally had Luffy and Nami left for dead when the army went after them. Guess what they were captured and Jimbei had to save them….

Sanji is a fucking bum

 

[L57]

Lol saying "official vice captain" when oda has made this

These are the second strongest
The sh has no vc
Zoro doesnt need that lame rank
He s gonna be wsm and wss

 

[Julius]

Luffy does things that are selfish but he always has full faith in his crew no matter what the challenge is or threats are against them.

Sanji is a bum

So you're saying that Sanji being altruistic and having trust on his crew is condemnable, while being selfish is fine?

Blud didn't even try to hide his bias

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Sanji literally had Luffy and Nami left for dead when the army went after them.

Blud is contradicting himself

You talk about trust but you think Sanji would believe Luffy and Nami would get killed by an army of fodder

The only real question here is if Sanji knew or not that Luffy was willing to go that far for him, like starving to death, specially after Sanji beat him, something that Sanji himself considered unforgivable and that was meant to mark his departure from the crew.

 

[Infitima]

Sanji literally had Luffy and Nami left for dead when the army went after them.

No matter how strong Luffy is he can't teleport like Kuma.
He's in WCI, the fleet is on the Grandline.
Shanks at that point who knows.

If he disobeyed, who the hell is saving Zeff who is all the way in the East Blue?
At that point Sanji had no choice, there was no way anyone could save Zeff who was already monitored.

As for before, do you just not consider PTSD? Sanji was abused by Germa for 8 years of his life, just met with the prospect of them coming back for him, whether he trusts Luffy and the Crew or not, it doesn't get rid of that learned conditioning of fear response. He knows what they're capable of, and he acted on a traumatized coping mechanism to save those he loves (the crew.) Not to mention his other learned conditioning of feeling not worthy to be saved, or kept around due to his self worth being nil.

Everyone in WCI, Luffy, Nami, Sanji all acted one emotional responses with logic out the window. Jinbe could use logic because Jinbe didn't have as big of an emotional connection to everything. But Luffy acted on emotion and impulse to save Sanji, Sanji acted on emotions of love and PTSD, Nami acted on emotions of attachment to Sanji and Luffy (when she hit him that was clearly an act of emotion since he's never been that way to her before) and I'd argue jealousy but we won't get into that.

The point is, WCIs whole point was that emotions drive you, but they can also overtake you no matter how much you trust in others. Logic came second.

You say Luffy trusts all of his crew like Zoro, well then he should have trusted Sanji could handle it and lsitened to Zoro, right? Even though Zoro was wrong. The point is, Nami and Luffy overurled him because of emotion, trust be damned. Like every other decision in that arc.

 

[NotTommy]

I think it was a good moment from Sanji. He took charge, directed everyone and checked up on those not around. It doesn't make him Vice Captain, it just reinforces that when Luffy and Zoro aren't around, he's the next in line to direct and handle things. Same as when he left for Zou with part of the crew.

 

[Cruxroux]

I think it was a good moment from Sanji. He took charge, directed everyone and checked up on those not around. It doesn't make him Vice Captain, it just reinforces that when Luffy and Zoro aren't around, he's the next in line to direct and handle things. Same as when he left for Zou with part of the crew.

 

[RZ.119]

Ngl I think pretending Zoro isn't undoubtedly the Vice captain is more dishonest than any agenda driven nonsense Zoro fans may say.

 

[Guymieux]

Sanji only does things like this when Luffy and Zoro aren’t around . How does that make him vice captain ? Do it when Zoros there

 

[zorovsanji]

Zoro is the next Wb ,confirmed long ago
He s gonna be the wss and wsm
Luffy is just discount Loger

I think he's the next Rayleigh. Just wait when it's revealed that Rayleigh was actually the trio of old gen and he's the strongest and wss. Mid gen are (bb, shanks, mihawk) and new gen are the m3. Wbs parallel is bb.

 

[Necrohol]

We don't care about stare diffji man. Give it a rest.

Zoro was ragdolled by King and couldn't cut Kaku.

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I don't even want to hear about Lanji, who was paralyzed three chapters from someone else's acoc and screamed like Sakura chan. At that time, a 10-year-old girl was able to overcome Saturn's acoc. The fans of Landji kukold, the more him humiliate in each chapter, the more the fans want to put him next to Zoro, Lol.

Worse would have happened to Zoro, the dude who was ragdolled by King. Sanji fought King and Queen together and wasn't ragdolled.

 

[Zaretball]

I honestly agree that he is more of a leader and coordinator type. Zoro serves more as a lone wolf.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

No he’s not. Zoro is Luffys right hand man. Sanji takes care of and organizes the crew in luffys absence, but he’s not the vice captain

 

[traxex123]

He has done this since pre-ts yet oda never referred him as VC, anyways Zoro being both the combatant and the organiser every time will have the rest do nothing, that's why him and luffy are dumb and only fight.

Where is the organiser right now?

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I honestly agree that he is more of a leader and coordinator type. Zoro serves more as a lone wolf.

Imagine no zoro in this arc, jinbei can do most of his role in this arc, even finish Lucci sooner