Future Events Vista is the swordsman of the Red Hair Pirates and endgame material for the WGS title.

#46
The manga since 1000chapters ago numerous times ''Mihawk is the WSS''
A new/dupe account ''Vista is the WSS, vivre card says he was better than Mihawk in MF''
Only there is no longer any narration box for Mihawk where he is referred to as WGS anymore


That just goes to snow how fleeting the title is

The title can shift between Mihawk, Vista, Shiryu and Zoro at any moment

It’s that close

Right now Vista could literally be the WGS
 
#47
The fight for WGS is only a tiny detail in OP world, except for zolo wankers, not much people cares about about this, the same in OP world, less than 1% characters in OP give a fuc about this
 
#49
Honestly it would be pretty dope to see other characters compete for the wss title. There being a mini competition for it during the competition for the one piece would be nice

It would make the wss seem more important and add more weight to it
 
#52
So your argument boils down to Mihawk wasn’t trying, even though he directly said he wanted “measuring the distance” and came up short against Jozu

Jozu is still a top commander and nothing says he is even comparable in combat ability to BB commanders that got frozen by Aokiji , as Marco and Jozu needed distractions to get beaten instantly like that, Aokiji seems to have froze several of BBs crewmates, which means the differential in combat ability is substantial.

You’re Selling the WB commanders short even though they matched the admirals in QcQ

Furthermore Vista has superior skills because he also has history with Wano and Oden, which Mihawk doesn’t have. The flower sword style is a derivative of Hyoguro’s and Ashura Doji’s sword style and applications, so naturally he was also taught Wano’s ryou specific for swordsmen.

So you have good reasons to put Vista=>Mihawk

All you got are cop-outs

Think about why Mihawk, if he is so much more relevant in the grander scheme, hasn’t got anything to do with Wano?

That was the perfect opportunity to build on Mihawk’s hype, only Oda didn’t go for it, because Mihaek doesn’t have the clout you think he does
No my point was never that Mihawk wasn't trying. You are assuming i am defending him. All i said can be summarized in "We have nothing to scale him for". He could be a fraud weaker than Vista or actually Stronger fitting for his title. And since he did fk all in marineford his resume for now is very bad at least the Admirals showed us something against commanders where he chose to postpone the fight with a commander "singular".

Came up short against Jozu? I disagree here. The strike was aimed for WB and Jozu deflected it. He came up short against WB since his attack never reached him.

But Mihawk did come up short against Vista tho since he offered to postpone the fight.

BB commanders and Jozu.. Well you have a group soloed by Aokiji and 1 Commander in Jozu. I am pretty sure a group of commanders can beat 1 commander. Wano is a perfect example.. King was superior to Marco tho it wasn't a fair 1 on 1. Still marco wasn't able to damage King and King and Queen were soloed by RunBull. And lets not forget that Aokiji was willing to take on the whole BB crew regardless if he is able to do it or not. It scared BB.

Regarding the Wano stuff for Jozu.. Roger and Rayleigh or at least Rayleigh is a Master at all Haki and as far as we know they only visited Wano twice briefly and you and i know for sure Roger or Rayleigh shit on Jozu in swordmanship and Ryuo. And just to clarify before you go again and assume i am defending him using Roger and Rayleigh. Nope Mihawk is either a big fraud or actually just reserving his power.

You see my points as cop-outs.. because you are blinded and you think i am taking Mihawk side lol. Nah i told you to read my reply as a neutral reply.

Yes Mihawk is irrelevant and has nothing to do in any small or grander scheme.. The story tells itself that he is nothing but an end goal for Zoro. If Zoro himself is only fighting enemies that has no plot contribution quality in any arc. It should automatically says alot about his end goal opponent. Isn't that why Oda chose to involve him using Buggy and Oda stayed true to his bland uncaring characteristic by actually showing us how he is reacting by getting dragged in Buggy's Plot driven points.

So yes for now in terms of swordsmanship techniques and skills all the swordsmen we met in the story shits on Mihawk. Heck even Shanks showed us stuff in his movie.

:cheers:
 
#53
Mihawk is a fraud, and Vista has his number. Can Vista beat King btw?
Did Izo disarm battle-ready King ?

Did King get pressured by Izo on the upper left corner of this panel so much he made a haki barrier?
Clearly Izo can get in King’s face

What do you think Vista will do who has inherited the flower sword style from Hyogoro? And sharpened his ryou by learning from Oden

Hyogoro, ie the guy Kaido said was so powerful that he wouldn’t have been able to invade Wano country if Oden has joined up with him instead of being duped


Considering all this, Mihawk really falls out of clout and relevance, Vista really is a big ass name in the WGS race
 
#56
Did Izo disarm battle-ready King ?

Did King get pressured by Izo on the upper left corner of this panel so much he made a haki barrier?
Clearly Izo can get in King’s face

What do you think Vista will do who has inherited the flower sword style from Hyogoro? And sharpened his ryou by learning from Oden

Hyogoro, ie the guy Kaido said was so powerful that he wouldn’t have been able to invade Wano country if Oden has joined up with him instead of being duped


Considering all this, Mihawk really falls out of clout and relevance, Vista really is a big ass name in the WGS race
Solid points bro, I can't argue with that. What are your thoughts on Zoro and Mihawk not having AdCoC btw? I hear what he actually uses is simple CoC based AdCoA attacks. This thread expands on it, and I think you'll agree since it makes sense imo

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/rough-map-of-haki-for-swordsmen.40222/
 
#60
Solid points bro, I can't argue with that. What are your thoughts on Zoro and Mihawk not having AdCoC btw? I hear what he actually uses is simple CoC based AdCoA attacks. This thread expands on it, and I think you'll agree since it makes sense imo

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/rough-map-of-haki-for-swordsmen.40222/
Ok so Inactually managed to get though that thread lol

The guy contradicts himself. He says swordsman only use infusion to make the sword harder, but then says Zoro has internal CoA. That’s a wild contradiction. A swordsman destroys things from the outside in and internal CoA does the exact opposite, so it’s Not a befitting haki style for a swordsman. Swordsman just needs better CoA , that’s it

And didn’t follow most of it, about red lightning in anime and stuff. Zoro survived King’s explosion with his swords??

That rootbeer is pretty wild but I guess one always needs people to question things from different angles to make it more interesting. If you think that’s me you’re wrong though lol

I’m just a guy that doesn’t agree with powerscaling on Mihawk and Zoro
 
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