Future Events Warcury Is Akainu’s EOS Opponent

Lee Ba Shou

Conqueror of the Stars
#1


When Sakazuki hears Vegapunk state that the world will sink into the sea, this is his reaction:


The cross-hash pattern over Akainu’s eyes is a common mangaka technique for showing extreme concern or disapproval.

Akainu doesn’t want to kill the population of the entire world. What Akainu wants is to “eliminate all evil”, per his own words. This is an important distinction because it shows us that Akainu views himself as good.

Even when Akainu committed his biggest atrocity, he did it in the name of protecting what he considers to be “good”


And what Akainu considers “good” is the Navy and his own Justice, but not necessarily the World Government.

Akainu believes the World Government is his ally, and that his ideals and the World Government’s ideals align, but this will very quickly change when Akainu discovers that the World Government intends to kill the population of the entire world in the “Great Cleansing”.

The difference between Akainu’s ideals:


Is that Akainu is willing to sacrifice a small innocence to save the greater good. He is willing to kill a shipload of civilians if he believes that this is what will protect the millions of innocents around the world.

Akainu is not willing to kill all of the innocent people around the world. Those people are specifically what Akainu wants to protect.

Now I already did a thread looking more deeply on what I believe to be Akainu’s philosophy on Justice so if you want more info on that, check it out. But for now let’s move on.

I believe (as do many people) that the Marines will defect from the World Government and fight against them when they discover that they plan to kill the entire world’s population. I believe that Akainu is a subverted final villain trope, like Zuko or Darth Vader. You think they are irredeemable monstrous villains at first, but by the ends of their respective series they are actually explicit allies. That is Akainu for me. And this idea is actual based on Oda’s favorite movie of which Akainu is the star.

“Battles Without Honor or Humanity”, a movie that Oda has referenced as his “Bible Movie”:


Stars Bunta Sugawara (Akainu), who starts the film as a brutal Yakuza Muscle man, the kind of guy who beats helpless people who act against the Yakuza. We actually see him do this on screen at the film’s opening.

Seems similar to One Piece Akainu, right?

By the end of the film, Akainu* becomes disillusioned with the Yakuza and leaves them. He even shoots up the funeral for the head Yakuza dude or whatever.

So in other words, Oda based Akainu’s character design on a character who’s entire arc is literally about him becoming disillusioned and ultimately abandoning a life he was once extremely in favor of.

Okay, so Akainu just might leave the Marines and fight against the WG in the end, maybe, but why does that mean Akainu must fight Warcury?


Now we must ask ourselves, what is the purpose of Oda making Warcury the “God of Justice”? When Akainu’s entire character is all about him pursuing his own Justice?

Well, if we think Oda intends to have Akainu rebel from the World Government, and to ultimately “redeem” his character in the end, then the best way for a Shonen Mangaka to give Akainu a redemption arc, is to have him fight and defeat a character who embodies the life that Akainu once aspired toward.

This is a very common tactic in manga.

For those of you who have read MHA, Endeavor is an extremely similar character to Akainu. Endeavor is a hero who is secretly an abusive monster and does terrible things to his family. By the end of the series, Horikoshi has given Endeavor the best redemption arc in Shonen history, and Endeavor’s EOS battle is against All For One himself, the central villain of the manga. Endeavor fights and defeats All For One but loses his arm and perhaps even ultimately his life in the process (I haven’t finished MHA yet).

So from a narrative perspective, why does Endeavor fight All For One? The answer is because All For One is a dark representation of everything Endeavor once was: an evil man craving more and more power no matter the cost. Endeavor fighting and defeating All For One showed his transition from someone who was once very similar to All For One, into someone who is now fighting to overcome that version of himself.

So how does Warcury represent a version of Akainu that Akainu must surpass?

Well, in three big ways:

1. The Great Cleansing


Warcury’s current aim is to kill literally everyone. I’ve already explained why Akainu will not agree with this, and how this functions as a dark representation of what Akainu almost became.

2. Warcury’s association with Justice:


Akainu is the most Justice-Devoted Marine in the series. It cannot be an accident that Oda associated Warcury with Akainu in this manner.

3. Liberating Akainu from his “Government Dog” Arc:


Akainu fighting against the organization he was previously heavily subservient to is once again an aspect of Akainu’s character arc and ultimate redemption.

Now what’s interesting is Akainu and Warcury have already had beef on panel:


Akainu: “Put an end to this!”

Warcury: “Your honor is a trifling matter!”



Akainu: “The CD puppet went right over your heads!”

Warcury: “Shut your insolent mouth, Sakazuki!”



Here Warcury specifically comments about the pride of the Navy and how he blames Akainu for tarnishing it. Subtle foreshadowing for Warcury’s future association with the concept of Justice and his future battle against Akainu?



So imagine this:

Warcury, the founder of the Navy, the “God of Justice”, who believes Akainu is responsible for the fall of the Navy and their ultimate defection, a fraudulent “disgrace to Justice”, who believes that killing the entire world is what will continue the Government’s Justice

Vs Akainu, who has devoted his entire life to what he considers to be “real justice”, and now sees through the Government lies and will fight against them killing literally everyone, surpassing the old version of himself who was willing to do something like killing innocents for the greater good.

Akainu spent his life a black-hearted monster who would kill innocent civilians and his own marines in the name of justice.

Akainu in the end will die a hero who sees the error of his ways and fights to stop the Government from committing the greatest possible evil.

Akainu will die the greatest of all heroes, valiantly defeating Warcury but losing his life in the process


@SakazOuki @Kurozumi Wiwi @The White Crane @Wuuuke @silverfire @scoobie3 @AkainuTheGrimReaper @Apollo @Admiral Mou Bu @ZenZu @Extravlad @kurwa @haxxor @EmperorKinyagi @Blackbeard @Owl Ki @TheKnightOfTheSea @God Buggy @Sentinel @Tyki_Mikk @Veku @Mr. Tuna Sandwich @GoldDiamond @Dragon777 @Weeman @Cadis Etrama Di Urek @Djordje @BaboonMihawk @Negan @The Buddha @Djordje @Germinator @DarkestKnightofSpoilers @Jiihad
 
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#2
The gorosei are losing to Nikas five top men for the new gen in Zoro, Sanji, Sabo, Law, and Jika :goyea:

Sakazuki doesn't belong in that group at all. Besides how does angry magma man with no acoc hurt a magma boar with acoc?
 
#4
I would appreciate that outcome. Doflamingo himself viewed the WG and Marines as two different entities in the aspiration of sovereignty and Akainu has been seen opposing the Gorosei. Would be a waste if Akainu as the leader of the marines ended up being a dog who fights and falls for the course of the WG.
 
#5
I see, but I disagree warcury is Akainu eos fight . More like stepping stone for him to crush it.
‘Warcury is guy higher boss with god complex who will get killed by soldier due disagreement . Like power struggle like priest vs pharaoh , senate vs roman ruler , etc.

‘I don’t see oda take reference idea from darth Vader , Endeavor ( I do t think he is bad guy from start, he is like piccolo training in Sparta training style ) for akainu.

Then it is funny reference as bowser (Akainu due lava theme and hating one guy ) vs warcury (Ganon)
 
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#7


When Sakazuki hears Vegapunk state that the world will sink into the sea, this is his reaction:


The cross-hash pattern over Akainu’s eyes is a common mangaka technique for showing extreme concern or disapproval.

Akainu doesn’t want to kill the population of the entire world. What Akainu wants is to “eliminate all evil”, per his own words. This is an important distinction because it shows us that Akainu views himself as good.

Even when Akainu committed his biggest atrocity, he did it in the name of protecting what he considers to be “good”


And what Akainu considers “good” is the Navy and his own Justice, but not necessarily the World Government.

Akainu believes the World Government is his ally, and that his ideals and the World Government’s ideals align, but this will very quickly change when Akainu discovers that the World Government intends to kill the population of the entire world in the “Great Cleansing”.

The difference between Akainu’s ideals:


Is that Akainu is willing to sacrifice a small innocence to save the greater good. He is willing to kill a shipload of civilians if he believes that this is what will protect the millions of innocents around the world.

Akainu is not willing to kill all of the innocent people around the world. Those people are specifically what Akainu wants to protect.

Now I already did a thread looking more deeply on what I believe to be Akainu’s philosophy on Justice so if you want more info on that, check it out. But for now let’s move on.

I believe (as do many people) that the Marines will defect from the World Government and fight against them when they discover that they plan to kill the entire world’s population. I believe that Akainu is a subverted final villain trope, like Zuko or Darth Vader. You think they are irredeemable monstrous villains at first, but by the ends of their respective series they are actually explicit allies. That is Akainu for me. And this idea is actual based on Oda’s favorite movie of which Akainu is the star.

“Battles Without Honor or Humanity”, a movie that Oda has referenced as his “Bible Movie”:


Stars Bunta Sugawara (Akainu), who starts the film as a brutal Yakuza Muscle man, the kind of guy who beats helpless people who act against the Yakuza. We actually see him do this on screen at the film’s opening.

Seems similar to One Piece Akainu, right?

By the end of the film, Akainu* becomes disillusioned with the Yakuza and leaves them. He even shoots up the funeral for the head Yakuza dude or whatever.

So in other words, Oda based Akainu’s character design on a character who’s entire arc is literally about him becoming disillusioned and ultimately abandoning a life he was once extremely in favor of.

Okay, so Akainu just might leave the Marines and fight against the WG in the end, maybe, but why does that mean Akainu must fight Warcury?


Now we must ask ourselves, what is the purpose of Oda making Warcury the “God of Justice”? When Akainu’s entire character is all about him pursuing his own Justice?

Well, if we think Oda intends to have Akainu rebel from the World Government, and to ultimately “redeem” his character in the end, then the best way for a Shonen Mangaka to give Akainu a redemption arc, is to have him fight and defeat a character who embodies the life that Akainu once aspired toward.

This is a very common tactic in manga.

For those of you who have read MHA, Endeavor is an extremely similar character to Akainu. Endeavor is a hero who is secretly an abusive monster and does terrible things to his family. By the end of the series, Horikoshi has given Endeavor the best redemption arc in Shonen history, and Endeavor’s EOS battle is against All For One himself, the central villain of the manga. Endeavor fights and defeats All For One but loses his arm and perhaps even ultimately his life in the process (I haven’t finished MHA yet).

So from a narrative perspective, why does Endeavor fight All For One? The answer is because All For One is a dark representation of everything Endeavor once was: an evil man craving more and more power no matter the cost. Endeavor fighting and defeating All For One showed his transition from someone who was once very similar to All For One, into someone who is now fighting to overcome that version of himself.

So how does Warcury represent a version of Akainu that Akainu must surpass?

Well, in three big ways:

1. The Great Cleansing


Warcury’s current aim is to kill literally everyone. I’ve already explained why Akainu will not agree with this, and how this functions as a dark representation of what Akainu almost became.

2. Warcury’s association with Justice:


Akainu is the most Justice-Devoted Marine in the series. It cannot be an accident that Oda associated Warcury with Akainu in this manner.

3. Liberating Akainu from his “Government Dog” Arc:


Akainu fighting against the organization he was previously heavily subservient to is once again an aspect of Akainu’s character arc and ultimate redemption.

Now what’s interesting is Akainu and Warcury have already had beef on panel:


Akainu: “Put an end to this!”

Warcury: “Your honor is a trifling matter!”



Akainu: “The CD puppet went right over your heads!”

Warcury: “Shut your insolent mouth, Sakazuki!”



Here Warcury specifically comments about the pride of the Navy and how he blames Akainu for tarnishing it. Subtle foreshadowing for Warcury’s future association with the concept of Justice and his future battle against Akainu?



So imagine this:

Warcury, the founder of the Navy, the “God of Justice”, who believes Akainu is responsible for the fall of the Navy and their ultimate defection, a fraudulent “disgrace to Justice”, who believes that killing the entire world is what will continue the Government’s Justice

Vs Akainu, who has devoted his entire life to what he considers to be “real justice”, and now sees through the Government lies and will fight against them killing literally everyone, surpassing the old version of himself who was willing to do something like killing innocents for the greater good.

Akainu spent his life a black-hearted monster who would kill innocent civilians and his own marines in the name of justice.

Akainu in the end will die a hero who sees the error of his ways and fights to stop the Government from committing the greatest possible evil.

Akainu will die the greatest of all heroes, valiantly defeating Warcury but losing his life in the process


@SakazOuki @Kurozumi Wiwi @The White Crane @Wuuuke @silverfire @scoobie3 @AkainuTheGrimReaper @Apollo @Admiral Mou Bu @ZenZu @Extravlad @kurwa @haxxor @EmperorKinyagi @Blackbeard @Owl Ki @TheKnightOfTheSea @God Buggy @Sentinel @Tyki_Mikk @Veku @Mr. Tuna Sandwich @GoldDiamond @Dragon777 @Weeman @Cadis Etrama Di Urek @Djordje @BaboonMihawk @Negan @The Buddha @Djordje @Germinator @DarkestKnightofSpoilers @Jiihad
This kind of storytelling is good, but it's beyond a fraud like Lolda to write.
 
#8
It’s going to be Koby

Koby is the marine Hero, the symbol of righteous justice.

Maybe him and Smoker can 2v1 if Koby isn’t strong enough by EoS.

But Akainu is a villain. Imo he gets beaten by Dragon or Luffy defeats him before the final war.
 
#10
Would definitely be cool to see. The marines obviously will play a major role in the downfall of the WG but unlike Fujitora or even Kizaru It's kinda hard to imagine Akainu having a place in the post-war world after some of his actions. Not saying that outcome cannot be written but it feels like Oda left him off-panel for too long to give us a satisfying complete redemption at this point. Having him give it his all for the final struggle and end his story right there sounds like a powerful way to solidify that his justice isn't the WG's without having it go into "drama" that the story really hasn't properly built up.
 
#11
I really Wouldn't Match Up like this yk.

Warcury vs Akainu
Nasujuro vs Zoro
Saturn vs Law
Jupiter vs Kid
Marcus vs Sabo

Place Where Pirates/Pirate hunter/marines/revolutionary joined hands.
:few::few:
 
#16
Good thread Lee. I think what Egghead really did is to showcase the difference between the Admirals and the Gorosei and that the Admirals were never really evil as opossed to the pure evil which the Gorosei represent.

Oda views the Admirals and the actors they're based on as heroic individuals so it's likely that they will all while struggling between their duty and personal sense of justice, inevitably choose to go against the WG.
 
#19
Old Lakainu always been a loyal Red ''Dog'' who hated the Government's enemies for years, unlike the clowns believes, Lakainu doesn't hate Pirates. Since he was the one wanting Warlord Pirates to still exist against Fujitora, Red dog also killed civilians and children on Ohara for the Government.

Then also kills a Marine soldier who was begging for his family.

Now the clowns are saying he will do a 180 turn and go up against the Government after all the things he has done :arnoling:

If Lizaru finally go up against the Government, then there is a little chance Lakainu finally will stop being a bitch of Celestials as well.

Oda chose Momotaro Trio; Dog - Monkey - Pheasant as original Admiral trio.

Pheasant already turned against the Government.

Maybe Monkey and ''Dog'' will do the same?

Either way Red Dog still will be someone's dog again, you can't change his dog nature, he will need another master.

Since the clowns were thinking Aokiji wasn't underling, they were wrong. Dog will be a dog either way.
 
#20
Nah I dont see any of the current admirals going head to head with the gorosei. Maaaaaybe Fujitora cause he's always been kind of neutral but that's it. All those admirals are embarassing for how they continue to get used.
 
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