Questions & Mysteries Was giving Chinjao coc a good decision or bad

#42
Chinjao disrespect is real. He was worth over 500m. Thinking 550m and leading a fuckin fleet. Plus if it wasn't for Garp (likely another CoC user) he would have continued sailing and growing in notoriety. He would likely have peaked at 1B plus bounty.
Bounties back then weren't also inflated like right now where there's lots of Pirates
Some benefits from Yonko influence
Chinjao would have 2B easily if he continued piracy

Chinjao was pretty powerful actually, In his prime I'd say he was Around Commander level 30 years ago. (based on how 2nd and 3rd commanders been lookin recently)

No commander can rival Garp to a point he needs training to Win
None!

Chinjao>Any commander including Katakuri and Benn
 
#44
Chinjao required Garp to take him down after lots of clashes just like it took Legendary Marines to hunt Shiki, Roger and WB

Doffy was being hunted by Tsuru and was running in fear
Doffy is bigger in influence as King of underworld but weaker!
Chinjao specifically states that if Luffy = Chinjao, he will get destroyed. He's admitting he's dropped off MASSIVELY.

I said ~7x times since I scale him around TR level currently, and to be pushing Garp to a sweaty struggle he'd need to be much stronger. 10 seems too high, 5 too low.
1.- Chinjao did not require Garp to take him down, it took 1 clash and his head was already flat. Garp said he trained with some mountains, Chinajo is much more like Moriah and Crocodile, a pirate that Garp and Roger fought to keep growing.
2.- Chinjao says "Fangless"... he literally is talking about the shape of his head, it is like a Lion with no fangs, he might have the power in his mounty, but with no teeth he can just have the same effect.

Chinjao inmediatly tries to break the ice continent after his defeat and he couldnt do it, it was not a matter of time(being old or not), but a matter of not having his peak on the head. That is being fangless.

Luffy did not only matched him, he overpowered him just like Garp. Nothing suggestest he has lower power than his prime, but lets supossed he does, at worst it is 80% since he still was the power tool that Sai had to overcome in order to be worthy of leading the Happo Navy and being able to split the continent.

Like I said, after his defeat, his grudge on Garp, kept his power alive training the new era.
 
#47
I dunno how heavy handed Oda has to be, tbh. The scene with Chinjao was an equivalent of Caribou getting whopped. In the NW logia ain't shit and being a conqueror doesn't mean what one would assume.

It's not a special power or particular goal, it's a disposition. A dominant figure. There are many alphas but being the alpha of alphas is more like the goals of a Luffy or Zoro.

Chinjao and Katakuri aren't really kings, but they are above your average opponent so it's fair
 
#48
Prime Chinjao was legit a mid top tier so there's nothing wrong with him having CoC.
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Chinjao specifically states that if Luffy = Chinjao, he will get destroyed. He's admitting he's dropped off MASSIVELY.

I said ~7x times since I scale him around TR level currently, and to be pushing Garp to a sweaty struggle he'd need to be much stronger. 10 seems too high, 5 too low.
Tobi Roppo level characters don’t get clowned on by Gladius and Lao G
 
#51
It's fine for me.
He was the Moria of his era, but with CoC and it was interesting to remind that quality of a king alone will mean shit if you lack the power to keep going, like how it could happen to post-war Luffy if he fell all the way into trauma in a bad end route.
 
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#52
It's fine for me.
He was the Moria of his era, but with CoC and it was interesting to remind that quality of a king alone will mean shit if you lack the power to keep going, like how it could happen to post-war Luffy if he felt all the way into trauma in a bad end route.
i would say
closer to hancock or doffy
 
#53
We literally have kids with CoC so why is a legit former new world renowed pirate (renowed enough for Garp to train specifically for him) having it somehow bad?
Not everyone who has it will end up as top tiers, hell Kaido himself says there are too many.
 
#54
Chinjao was a big fish in the past, he just happened to get crushed by one of the strongest guys in the verse.
Chinjao still had one of the toughest bodies, a very powerful signature quirk..

Seriously, totally okay for him to have it, that dude was a beast. He would have absolutely destroyed most commanders for example.
 
#55
Not every CoC user is Yonko level. Chinjao was in that "legendary Pirate" bracket, like Moriah, Doffy, Hancock, Kuma.

I assume these were guys like Silver Axe, Captain John, etc... guys who weren't quite on WB, BM, Kaido level but were still notorious.
 
#59
Yet some people find it weird for many having it. Oda just gave us a spoiler of it in dresrossa. Rayleigh said that characters who had made a big name for themselves usually have it. Each time, Luffy climbs to the top, he will be fightings these users.

Don was a legendary pirate, yeah, legendary. He was the leader who lost his crown.
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Doffy is bigger.
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Much more than big dreams, it is about following your dream no matter what, they wont allow any other and come and destroy their dreams, their pride.

Even though Chinjao was a small leader, he was very proud as being able to split the island, and thought to have the best power until Garp defeated him.

Katakuri maybe too, he was the role model and had to build his character around godly personality, he will never let people see him bend over even though they are limited by their power.
Great
 
#60
Chinjao was broken, like the filler anime character Naguri (from the Post-Marineford arc filler). As Chinjao himself implied, there are countless conquerors in the Grand Line, but most of them get wasted by the strongest of the flock (e.g.: Roger, emperors, admirals, etc.). Something similar happened to Crocodile (vs. Whitebeard) and Moria (vs. Kaido), despite not being confirmed as conquerors. Rayleigh said that 1 in a million are haoshoku users, so, if we consider that a reasonably precise assertion, the number of conquerors may be much bigger than most of us think.

If we consider that the One Piece's world, for example, has about 180 million people (I'm counting the Arabasta's 10 million population and supposing that the rest of the 170 WG affiliated countries have 1 million people on average each -- I'm not even counting unaffiliated countries like Wano or Elbaf, that seem to be huge), there are at least 180 conquerors in the whole world. If One Piece's population is the same as real life, then there are about 8000 conquerors around the world (I doubt it though, as, according to the latest chapter's revelations, most of the world was flooded in the Void Century).

Considering everything above, Chinjao may even be an above average conqueror, as he managed to survive and even be infamous in the dangerous Rocks/Roger's era. He's just far out of his prime now, in addition of being broken (physically and mentally).
 
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