Powers & Abilities What’s the point of King having a DF?

centurion

centurion

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By far one of the most useless devil fruits in the series

King already has wings by default thanks to his Lunarian genes, so the Pteranodon wings are practically useless and he doesn’t need them to fly

His Lunarian fire has way more AP than the cringy lame beak attacks (confirmed by Zoro its like magma aka top tier offensive ability)

Plus his durability is already high due to the Lunarian flames, so the Ancient Zoan isn’t really helping here either

Not to mention how it looks ugly af

Literally what is the point of this fruit at all

If it was any character other than King, it could be useful I guess…
 
J

Just a member

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He is a Kaido commander, and the top one on the top of that, so he had to have a (ancient) zoan to fit that role. People were already guessing he had something special since he was masked and BM wanted him for his race and indeed Oda kept the revelation of him being a lunarian (and the race revelation) as a surprise. At this point everybody knows the pterano df actually has no big value for him but imo it was important in the process to reveal his secret (and to fit the crew theme).
 
RayanOO

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
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centurion said:
By far one of the most useless devil fruits in the series

King already has wings by default thanks to his Lunarian genes, so the Pteranodon wings are practically useless and he doesn’t need them to fly

His Lunarian fire has way more AP than the cringy lame beak attacks (confirmed by Zoro its like magma aka top tier offensive ability)

Plus his durability is already high due to the Lunarian flames, so the Ancient Zoan isn’t really helping here either

Not to mention how it looks ugly af

Literally what is the point of this fruit at all

If it was any character other than King, it could be useful I guess…
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Yeah almost no use for his DF

especially that in the later part of the fight he wasn’t using his hybrid at all.

Even when he tried to kick Zoro he stayed in normal form instead to go hybrid (which should be faster ?)



King DF was treated poorly and wasn’t really needed at all to make King as strong as he was

Frankly with the race Oda gave him a DF wasn’t needed but Oda had to stick to the animal kingdom theme
 
Gaimon The Pirate

Gaimon The Pirate

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I believe King was somehow the merge of different characters.
He was supposed to be Zoro's enemy (a swordsman), a Lunarian AND wielder of some Zoan fruit given the beasts pirates.

I still believe that Oda's plan was to have zoro fight some sort of Samurai renegade, but he just wasn't able to fit it in the story.
And before Zoroboys jumps to defend this, I don't mean this as king being weak or a bad character, just.. A poor fit for Zoro's growth as a swordsman and just a poor fit in the story.
 
C

Cruxroux

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I think king was only given a fruit to fit the Beast pirates theme.

Also , Have we ever seen King fly with His own wings? Or seraphims fly?
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JoNdule said:
Because Oda didn't know what to do with King
Even lunarian race seems forced or messy

Oda just came up with it on the whim to make King seem special too
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Still salty that King lol diffs Kata? Lol.
 
yorosenpai

yorosenpai

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centurion said:
By far one of the most useless devil fruits in the series

King already has wings by default thanks to his Lunarian genes, so the Pteranodon wings are practically useless and he doesn’t need them to fly

His Lunarian fire has way more AP than the cringy lame beak attacks (confirmed by Zoro its like magma aka top tier offensive ability)

Plus his durability is already high due to the Lunarian flames, so the Ancient Zoan isn’t really helping here either

Not to mention how it looks ugly af

Literally what is the point of this fruit at all

If it was any character other than King, it could be useful I guess…
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King Lunarian has defacto a second df power (his race = to second df which I would scale it to legendary)
King has anzient and legendary df
King would overshadow Kaido if he had something better than ancient dinousaur fruit
 
ImmaIvanoM

ImmaIvanoM

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centurion said:
By far one of the most useless devil fruits in the series

King already has wings by default thanks to his Lunarian genes, so the Pteranodon wings are practically useless and he doesn’t need them to fly

His Lunarian fire has way more AP than the cringy lame beak attacks (confirmed by Zoro its like magma aka top tier offensive ability)

Plus his durability is already high due to the Lunarian flames, so the Ancient Zoan isn’t really helping here either

Not to mention how it looks ugly af

Literally what is the point of this fruit at all

If it was any character other than King, it could be useful I guess…
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Well King’s most effective attacks on Zoro Throughout their entire fight were his DF attacks

we saw King’s punches be stopped by Zoro’s mouth sword… King’s flames are useless to a fire cutter… his swordsmanship only matters when Zoro was holding back due to Enma

The only three attacks King managed to land effectively on Zoro were his Pteranodon wind cuts, his zoan form body slam, and his Zoan form head butt thing… that’s it… those are the only attacks King managed to land that mattered in the whole fight

yes, you can say “Why didn't king just stay in flame mode and wait out Zoro”… Yeah that’s true. But clearly King is a fucking idiot who thinks he wants to actually fight Zoro head on

Because King is a fucking idiot who doesn’t stay in lunarian flame mode nonstop, his only effective attacks on Zoro the entire fight were his DF attacks
 
comrade

comrade

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I wouldn't say it's useless. First of all, we don't know whether King can use his wings for flight, wherever he was seen flying, he was using his Zoan form. In fact, even when King was pushed off of Onigashima's edge, he briefly turned into his Zoan form, flew back and turned back into base, before attacking with his magma dragon. That would be an unnecessary step if he could fly on base.

Apart from that, it gives King other advantages.
- higher endurance
- higher recovery
- more durability outside flame mode, where he focuses on speed
- strong long range attacks, like Tempura Udon and flying slashes, former being able to break through mountains at high speed
- other strong close range attacks used with his Zoan form, like Divine Red Bow, which launched Zoro through the walls of Onigashima

Saying it is useless isn't accurate. So being a strength based crew, obviously he would use a fruit for a free power up
 
RebelliousSoma

RebelliousSoma

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centurion said:
By far one of the most useless devil fruits in the series

King already has wings by default thanks to his Lunarian genes, so the Pteranodon wings are practically useless and he doesn’t need them to fly

His Lunarian fire has way more AP than the cringy lame beak attacks (confirmed by Zoro its like magma aka top tier offensive ability)

Plus his durability is already high due to the Lunarian flames, so the Ancient Zoan isn’t really helping here either

Not to mention how it looks ugly af

Literally what is the point of this fruit at all

If it was any character other than King, it could be useful I guess…
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It's safe to say Oda was figuring it out as he was going along.

Kaido has beast pirates crew, therefore it does make sense for King to have a DF Zoan too, although pretty much useless in this case. Not sure anything other than a flying dino would have made sense though. What would you have picked?

Part of it might have been Oda being stingy with reveals and trying to stall the unavoidable reveal that King has black wings > Lunarian.

Then he figured out he should use it in next arc for the Seraphim. Must have been around the time he did the Kaido and King flashback.
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comrade said:
Saying it is useless isn't accurate. So being a strength based crew, obviously he would use a fruit for a free power up
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The only use it truly has is to express how strong Zoro really is.
 
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