Powers & Abilities What’s the point of King having a DF?

#84
I honestly like King's variety with his zoan more than just turning hybrid and fighting. King has it all planned out, switching between modes that are most useful in any given situation. Keeps it interesting and makes King seem like a more intelligent fighter.
At the same time it makes it a lackluster read when a villain is defeated because despite having multiple powers can’t use them at one time. Feels like there’s no reason to have given them the ability in the first place
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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#85
At the same time it makes it a lackluster read when a villain is defeated because despite having multiple powers can’t use them at one time. Feels like there’s no reason to have given them the ability in the first place
I don't think a character needs to be entirely focused in one area to be good. King is someone who event insulted Zoro for having that mentality, he's perfectly strong as is and can switch his fighting style depending on his opponent. His ability to approach a situation a handful of ways is an undervalued power
 
#86
King really should've had a Mythical Zoan of some sort, though I guess Oda didn't want to do that because it was set him apart from the other YC1's, like they generally have a single gimmick that makes them strong; Marco - Phoenix, Katakuri - FS, King - Lunarian, so if King had two, it wouldn't really work.
Katakuri has awakening and fs + strong CoA & CoC
He's not a gimmick fighter !

People keep forgetting katakuri has 2 special abilities that Oda hypes (awakening and fs)

Only Marco and King have gimmicks due to their dfs/race , they have zero adhaki or awakening

No adhaki-awakened user is a gimmick fighter
 
#87
Katakuri has awakening and fs + strong CoA & CoC
He's not a gimmick fighter !

People keep forgetting katakuri has 2 special abilities that Oda hypes (awakening and fs)

Only Marco and King have gimmicks due to their dfs/race , they have zero adhaki or awakening

No adhaki-awakened user is a gimmick fighter
Future sight is what makes Katakuri strong and the character that he is though, his awakening is never highlighted anywhere near to the extent that his future sight is.

And I didn't say he's just a gimmick fighter, I said he has a gimmick like all the other YC1's we've seen.
 
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#89
Zoro isnt good enough to beat a mythical zoan user so they gave king a trash ancient dinossaur one.
 
#90
Beast Pirates theme.

Would also give him better regeneration.

Also I'd assume the lunarian flames has something to do with stamina, which is why King had no flames when he was injured and he also said he was near his limit too when he was fighting Zoro.

His Zoan would give him long range attacks like the wing slashes and the head slingshot which should require less energy than summoning a humongous flame dragon.

His DF might have not made him stronger but it has given him more utility.
 
#91
King already has wings by default thanks to his Lunarian genes, so the Pteranodon wings are practically useless and he doesn’t need them to fly
In the manga King doesn't fly with his Lunarian wings. That's why he kept switching from pteranodon to human and vice versa. He was only seen hovering with them after flying up as a pteranodon. When he needed to fly fast, he always used his DF.

His Lunarian fire has way more AP than the cringy lame beak attacks
His fire was like magma, but Zoro also said his beak attack was like laser.

Literally what is the point of this fruit at all
The main reason for him to have a devil fruit is camouflage. He needed to disguise the fact that he is a Lunarian even from his own crew members. In a crew called the Beasts/Animal Kingdom Pirates, he needed people to think that his wings belonged to his devil fruit, because he couldn't hide them like he did his skin and hair. Besides, his DF protects him in flame off.
 
#92
Katakuri has awakening and fs + strong CoA & CoC
He's not a gimmick fighter !

People keep forgetting katakuri has 2 special abilities that Oda hypes (awakening and fs)

Only Marco and King have gimmicks due to their dfs/race , they have zero adhaki or awakening

No adhaki-awakened user is a gimmick fighter
Katakuri is a gimmick fighter. A gimmick is defined as a trick. Katakuri uses his FS and DF to trick his opponent into thinking he's invincible. There's your gimmick. It has nothing to do with whether a character has awakening or adhaki. It's all about how thee character uses their powers.
Katakuri CoA is nothing special. Having stronger CoA than Luffy doesn't mean anything since every single one of Luffy's major opponents defeated his CoA.

King and Marco are not a gimmick fighter because they are not tricking their opponents. King can into a mode where he's nearly invincible in exchange less speed. There's no trick. He's not tricking his opponent. Just because an opponent may not fully understand his powers doesn't make it a trick.

Marco has the greatest healing power in a entire manga. That makes hard to damage him because any damage you receive is instantly healed. Just like King, he's not tricking his opponent.

King have an ancient zoan DF probably has to do the fact he's a beast pirate and Kaido probably want all his pirates to have a zoan df power.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#94
By far one of the most useless devil fruits in the series

King already has wings by default thanks to his Lunarian genes, so the Pteranodon wings are practically useless and he doesn’t need them to fly

His Lunarian fire has way more AP than the cringy lame beak attacks (confirmed by Zoro its like magma aka top tier offensive ability)

Plus his durability is already high due to the Lunarian flames, so the Ancient Zoan isn’t really helping here either

Not to mention how it looks ugly af

Literally what is the point of this fruit at all

If it was any character other than King, it could be useful I guess…
Every DF feels useless on top of a Lunarian.

Yes, he has wings or rather he had wings. Now he can use Zoan wings to fly after Zoro trimmed his Lunarian wings.

Surely, his Jackpot and Imperial Dragons are amazing but both are elemental attacks that arent hakified. What if King encounters a logia? That's where Tempura Udon comes in since it is a hakified attack and one with the 2nd biggest DC in his repertoire on top of being incredibly fast.

Yes the durability seems useless due to damage immunity and extreme toughness as well as incredible endurance but Zoan DF buffs recovery, at least it does on paper even tho in the story, Oda dropped that stat after PejiWann and Ulti were defeated.

The point of that DF on King is to make him even better at things that he is already good at.
Zoan form gives incredible speed on its own. Lunarians without flames give speed buff by themselves. Put those two together and you have double speed buff making him one of the fastest characters in the show, if not the fastest.

He is already physically powerful but with huge hybrid wings his physical power skyrockets once it is also buffed by high speed.
King is probably with the most stacked physical attributes. Only Kaido can compete with King's physical stats. *I am not factoring in haki.*
 
#95
By far one of the most useless devil fruits in the series

King already has wings by default thanks to his Lunarian genes, so the Pteranodon wings are practically useless and he doesn’t need them to fly

His Lunarian fire has way more AP than the cringy lame beak attacks (confirmed by Zoro its like magma aka top tier offensive ability)

Plus his durability is already high due to the Lunarian flames, so the Ancient Zoan isn’t really helping here either

Not to mention how it looks ugly af

Literally what is the point of this fruit at all

If it was any character other than King, it could be useful I guess…
Looking at it from a character point of view: The Lunarian genes were not enough to protect his people from becoming extinct or damn near it. The Lunarian genes did not help him escape the WG or protect him from being experimented on by WG. Granted ALL of those dinosaurs DF are stupid, but dude needed more power to protect himself.

Of course, it could be that Kaido told him Pteranodon would be great, and because King loved Kaido so much he went with it. :smoothy:
 
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