Powers & Abilities What attack should've Luffy used instead?

#3
Nothing wrong with the attack, itโ€™s the silence after it. No one witnessing it, no one seeing luffy free them.

Of course I also think Luffy shouldโ€™ve finished a fight with a โ€œRedโ€ attack hiding his G5 because of Aces connection to Wano
 

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#6
I donโ€™t mind the actual attack the island punch was badass but itโ€™s the fact Luffy needed 3 Pu to fight Kaido and beat him alone the real problรจm

Law and Kid using their awakenings to restrain Kaido for Luffy to have time to land an island size punch would have been way better
 
#9
To me, what would have felt very cathartique would be a 10 piece combo.
Ya know, a whole chapter of devastating knock out blows, Some bone breaking x-ray shots on a few of them.
Show me that internal damage, instead of just telling me it's happening cuz "he has ryou"
and then he blitzes above him, and does whatever he wants to finish, fast and snappy.
:luuh: (kaido would have to be in a humanoid form btw)

The whole "holding a giant fist in the sky for 2 chapters" just ain't it for me.
Giant attacks in general don't do anything for me.

And I'm not talking about Sanji's one panel trash combo, talking about double page worthy
stuff in each attack.
 
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Herrera95

#11
Oda throw at litter his statement about stronger punch, all Luffy's training/power ups.

At the end Luffy's final attack was a bigger version of Elephant Gun.

No ACoC(is touching Kaido). No ACoA(nothing relates to internal damage). No G5(it didn't changed Kaido at all or passed through his skin).

Was simply a bigger version of elephant gun.
 
#13
Oda throw at litter his statement about stronger punch, all Luffy's training/power ups.

At the end Luffy's final attack was a bigger version of Elephant Gun.

No ACoC(is touching Kaido). No ACoA(nothing relates to internal damage). No G5(it didn't changed Kaido at all or passed through his skin).

Was simply a bigger version of elephant gun.
0 reading comprehension for either Oda's original statement, or the manga, getting several details about the attack completely wrong.
what a joke of a post.
 
#16
Denied, complained but couldn't argue against it.

What is the purpose of your post?
It takes longer to debunk garbage than to post it, so I won't be doing any back and forth follow ups.
When Oda said he didn't want it to just be a big punch, he meant that in a narrative sense Luffy couldn't just "try harder" to get a believable win with a stronger punch against Kaidou. If you don't understand this, as you don't, then you should probably not try posting about things you don't understand at such a basic level.

it did have CoC, ryuo and was the mixture of elephant gun and kong gun. downplaying the size as merely just a "bigger" elephant gun, when it is the size of the island due to the world's most ridiculous awakened ability is also dumb.

Even "just barrier" is a buff to damage, hence why it is used by people who don't have internal destruction, but assume when Luffy is punching Kaidou he is using internal destruction as well because of how Luffy and Hyogoro explained it when he originally learned it, go back and read the chapter 3-5 times if you need to.
 

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#17
I'm fine with the punch actually since it proves that Oda is a fraud for saying he won't make Luffy uses a stronger punch to defeat Kaido. But if I were to choose, I would like to see Luffy punching Kaido's head off to piss off ZKK supporters Lmao. But that's probably too gory for a kid shounen manga.
 
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Herrera95

#18
It takes longer to debunk garbage than to post it, so I won't be doing any back and forth follow ups.
When Oda said he didn't want it to just be a big punch, he meant that in a narrative sense Luffy couldn't just "try harder" to get a believable win with a stronger punch against Kaidou. If you don't understand this, as you don't, then you should probably not try posting about things you don't understand at such a basic level.

it did have CoC, ryuo and was the mixture of elephant gun and kong gun. downplaying the size as merely just a "bigger" elephant gun, when it is the size of the island due to the world's most ridiculous awakened ability is also dumb.

Even "just barrier" is a buff to damage, hence why it is used by people who don't have internal destruction, but assume when Luffy is punching Kaidou he is using internal destruction as well because of how Luffy and Hyogoro explained it when he originally learned it, go back and read the chapter 3-5 times if you need to.
Headcannon about "try harder". He was simple and direct about punching stronger and at the "end"(Kaido is not done) he just punched harder. ACoA was punching harder but with technique, would be good. ACoC was literally just punching harder. G5 was toon force but ultimate attack was just punching harder anyway.

Luffy "won" Kaido in a strength contest. This is literally punching stronger.

Luffy never showed to have Ryou, he has ACoA. I'm not downplaying size I'm downplaying the technique. Is just normal CoA like Elephant Gun but way bigger. Or bigger King Kong Gun since I guess it had the same rubber effect. The thing is that the last moment was just CoA. I agree it had ACoC at beginning, but the moment it touches Kaido this means that ACoC was already gone(Actually I'm gonna to retreat from that, Kaido bite Luffy hand touching but after that the non-touching effect comes back).

So at the end it was punching harder. Didn't had Ryou/ACoA, this is headcannon from fandom saying he is combining internal damage with conquerors coating.
 
#19
Lightning Gatling

>lightning damages kaido
>added damage from internal destruction Ryou
>added damage from COC


This is why I wanted luffy to win with that lightning cliffhanger
that would have been different and cooler and technically not different than a big punch and something that goes with the "internal damage" trope for kaido
and this big punch could have been used for Akainu and it fits better
 
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