Character Discussion What Has Shanks Ever Done That Was Truly Evil?

#24
Groomed a child to become a criminal
Imagine in real life some gang leader/mafia boss gives a 6 year old child his gun and tells him to give it back once he's become a big shot drug dealer/weapon smugler or whatever else you do illegally.
Not a fair comparison, many marines don't have honor the fact that they serve bunch of overlords
 
#26
Not a fair comparison, many marines don't have honor the fact that they serve bunch of overlords
What do the marines have to do with anything? Because Garp wanted Luffy to become one? I mean, it´s not like there´s a third option of just doing anything else with your life lol.

Now to be fair to Shanks, he didn´t groom Luffy or anything, but he didn´t have to encourage him to be a pirate exactly lol. This could have led to him dying very easily
 
#28
The odds are that a person like you is so crazy you'll break the law and end up in prison sometime and it will probably be because you harassed someone
This much crash out over worstgen trolling lol

Now to be fair to Shanks, he didn´t groom Luffy or anything, but he didn´t have to encourage him to be a pirate exactly lol. This could have led to him dying very easily
Before he hate the Gomu Gomu No Mi, Shanks was always against him being a pirate even though his crew constantly encouraged Luffy. He probably knew about the prophecy of the nika fruit choosing its user though and probably guessed Luffy is going to go down that line anyways. He only encouraged him cause he loved his personality too and knew about the prophecy. So Luffy eating it was much better than any other evil guy eating it hence he bet on the next generation
 
#30
I mean come on guys. This is a pirate manga. We can't be criticizing the dude who inspired the MC lol otherwise there is no One Piece manga. By irl standards its dangerous but in shonen standards, Shanks did nothing wrong. We gotta stop conflating irl morals with shonen morals.
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from oda perspective shanks is probably the perfect guy so yeah he's good
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It's just the truth. The way some of these people behave, they're very likely to end up in prison.
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#35
This much crash out over worstgen trolling lol


Before he hate the Gomu Gomu No Mi, Shanks was always against him being a pirate even though his crew constantly encouraged Luffy. He probably knew about the prophecy of the nika fruit choosing its user though and probably guessed Luffy is going to go down that line anyways. He only encouraged him cause he loved his personality too and knew about the prophecy. So Luffy eating it was much better than any other evil guy eating it hence he bet on the next generation
Actually, yeah this is true, you make a good point.

I do think the Nika situation does change how we should view their dynamic though. Shanks clearly didn´t expect Luffy to be the one who got it, so we have to wonder who exactly he stole it for. Given the fact that Shanks wants to find the One Piece, it is most likely for himself(Though maybe he wants to give it to Elbaf). And this does actually mean his character is different then say a cuckeye. Cuckeye literally wants to wait around for Zolo to kill him or something, he literally has nothing going in his life outside of that. He can´t really ¨antagonistic¨ to the SH, while Shanks kind of has to be(Evil is a strong word and probably doesn´t apply to shanks, but I think antagonistic is on the table)
 
#36
What do the marines have to do with anything? Because Garp wanted Luffy to become one? I mean, it´s not like there´s a third option of just doing anything else with your life lol.

Now to be fair to Shanks, he didn´t groom Luffy or anything, but he didn´t have to encourage him to be a pirate exactly lol. This could have led to him dying very easily
It was Luffy's destiny things like that don't apply to real world

Anyway I predict this thread to be nuked seeing the OP post history
 
#37
Argument:

Not only did Shanks inspire a child to walk the path of a criminal, but he also allowed a Devil Fruit — one destined to carry the weight of centuries — to be eaten by a carefree boy who had no grasp of its significance.


All the Conqueror’s Haki in the world, and yet he lacked the courage to shoulder the burden of becoming Nika himself.


Don’t tell me he was clueless. He knew exactly what he was doing.


Counter-Argument:

Shanks, possessing the Voice of All Things, likely understood something deeper — that the fruit wasn’t meant for him. He didn’t lack the will; he lacked the calling.


When the Hito Hito no Mi, Model: Nika chose Luffy, Shanks didn’t resist fate — he honored it. And in doing so, he gave everything, even his arm, to ensure that Luffy would be inspired to rise and become what the world needs.


He didn’t seize the power.
He guarded the torch, then passed it to the one it chose.



**I used ChatGPT to refine my comment
 
#39
It's unbiased but I'm still suspicious about Shanks' role in Roger's mysterious sickness.

The fact that their crew coincidentally carries some fake poison with them did not really contribute to lessen the suspicion.

Double twist of Shanks meeting the gorosei instead of Pranks is still an option.

It all depends on how Oda wants it to turn out.
Generally, he's the type of character that very often turns out evil mastermind at the end of things.
 
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