Questions & Mysteries What if instead of Zoro there was current Sanji on the rooftop in SN vs Yonko fight ?

#91
They'd all be dead by now and the story of One Piece ends right there. Who's blocking that combined Yonko attack? Who's cutting the various fire attacks from Kaido and Big Mom. Who's weakening Kaido by scarring him badly? Sanji does not have the AP or overall fighting skills to stand up to Yonkos atm.
LMAO, delusional. Everyone can stop the attack for some seconds and Law will teleport them. The fire? Luffy can tank it, Law can escape, Sanji can escape, no idea about Killer and Kidd. Scarring Kaido? Kaido didn't even felt it, but felt a normal punch right after that from Luffy.
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you means sanji jump on the hakai? sanji dead and the supernova dead too:kayneshrug:
Sanji would jump with the cape of the raid suit in front of the attack... of course he will be badly damaged after that.
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Yes we do
None of the others could do what zoro did
LMAO.... Killer is arguable, but Law,Kidd and Luffy couldn't not stop the attack for few seconds? Stop the CAP.
 
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#93
bro Sanji had the raid shit in his pocket and still ran from broo breath :kaidowhat:
Oda failed hard on the mOnStEr tRiO dynamic

Isn’t he immune to fire? Does broo breath even do anything? Has it ever hurt anyone? Why he run? I thought Sanji was this aerial specialist that can block the strongest attacks of One Piece? Never mind Vergo shattered his legs. Doffy laughed at him. Pudding laughed at him. King almost killed him

But now Sanji can take Hakai? :kaidowhat::lawsigh:
Stop the cap bro, bad troll.
 
#95
Sanji would do really goo
This thread doesn't make sense. What can sanji realistically do based on his current feats even with raid suit?
Didn't current enma zolo at the time was struggling against beetle man & got shit on by apoo? Then went to roof & show greatly, sanji against pay pay was only testing out his suit nothing more & he was doj g greatly even though he had no knowledge how to use the suit think about it :choppawhat:
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Sanji on the roof would do greatly & all you idiots saying he would or can't hurt kaido is wrong, people didn't thought no one the roof except luffy would hurt kaido but everyone one roof use new move or previous moves that are much strong & they hurt him df DF y'all talking about , sanji would so great things up there & I'm pretty sure big mom or kaido wasn't tagging because invisible attack would be really helpful imagine it in many ways
 
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#96
Yup seeing how Oda wrote that rooftop fight I have no doubt in my mind. The scabbards had no business hurting Kaido yet Oda wrote them to πŸ€·πŸΏβ€β™‚. Inu and Neko had haki dangerous enough to hurt Kaido, yet were unable to put down Jack with both taking turns to fight him day and night for 5 whole days. Then there is Kin'emon and the scabbards that time travelled who were largely regarded as fodder by the fanbase till the rooftop fight but alas! :milaugh: it is what it is lol.

If Sanji is matched up against Kaido at any point in this arc, hell not only Sanji, if even Franky or Jinbe are, you better be prepared for them to pull off similar feats. The narrative that Oda is tryna push at any point in time is all that matters.
Your argument is basically, others did so Sanji could too which is a poor point. Might as well extend that to every single character while you are at it.


The Supernova have been regarded as the leaders of the new generation so they are all above Sanji:milaugh:
Keep telling yourself that mate. This issue isn't even worth debating imo.
"not only that"


Again your argument here is none of them showed the ability to not be able to hurt Kaido so they simply did when given the chance to. Well, like those characters (save Luffy & Law who I'd argue have shown tools that could hurt Kaido prior to that fight), Sanji hasn't shown the ability to not be able to hurt Kaido either :catsweat:so we're just gonna have to decide whether he can or not if given the opportunity to won't we? or has Sanji faced off against Kaido before and shown that he is unable to hurt him:catsweat:
No the argument is, there was nothing showing they weren't able to. Also the only people who actually were able to were Luffy and Zoro. So your point is already wrong from the beginning. Oda didn't let Kidd , Killer and Law magically start doing actual damage to Kaido.

Also I'm just gonna put this out there coz I see this really dumb argument that all the Rooftop 5 are commander level or greater coz they showed the ability to hurt Kaido :believe:. Hell, the fact that I even have to try to debunk this is giving me a headache lol but keep in mind that Inu and Neko both have better feats that Killer for instance and had the haki to hurt Kaido yet both failed to put down Jack with both tagging each other in and out, day and night for 5 whole days and Jack is the weakest of the calamities :usoprice:.
The only dumb arguments are those that ignore context.

1. Inu and Neko didn't unlock "Oden's Ryou" until they casted out their name and put their all in their first attack against Kaido. That in itself gave them an increased AP than they had before.
2. Inu and Neko did not use Sulong when facing Jack
 
#97
Luffy, Sanji, Kid, Killer and Law are not able to block hakai or what? Zoro blocked it for a second, you think those 5 can't stop it completely? Easy lmao
There was no reason to take on Hakai in the first place - Oda just wanted to give Zoro a cool moment.
Hakai that made luffy and others shitting their pants and couldn't react to it whilst sanji got his ass overpowered and hurt by casual page one :cantseeme:
Oh yeah the fire....you mean the fire that couldn't even burn Luffy when he straight up walked thru it? YeAh HoW wOuLd ThEy OnLy DeAl WiTh It??
Boro breath made sanji running away like a fodder :risitavirus:

''Weakening'' :cantseeme:it already healed when Kaidou fought Luffy 1 on 1
better than massaging queen with his trash AP :shame:
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LMAO, delusional. Everyone can stop the attack for some seconds and Law will teleport them.
so you are talking out of ur ass nice
The fire? Luffy can tank it, Law can escape, Sanji can escape, no idea about Killer and Kidd. Scarring Kaido? Kaido didn't even felt it, but felt a normal punch right after that from Luffy.
Sanji ran away from boro breath lmao .
- Kaido after ashura :
he is mad shivering and sweating and panting and talking about scars .

- Kaido after luffy's punch :
he started laughing and talking about the laugh nothing about damage .

btw RS Sanji couldn't make page one bleeding lmao .

Sanji would jump with the cape of the raid suit in front of the attack... of course he will be badly damaged after that.
sanji got his ass overpowered and hurt by casual page one lmao
LMAO.... Killer is arguable, but Law,Kidd and Luffy couldn't not stop the attack for few seconds? Stop the CAP.
Nice headcanon out of ur ass :gokulaugh::gokulaugh:
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Didn't current enma zolo at the time was struggling against beetle man & got shit on by apoo? Then went to roof & show greatly, sanji against pay pay was only testing out his suit nothing more & he was doj g greatly even though he had no knowledge how to use the suit think about it
and he couldn't hurt page one :gokulaugh:
Sanji on the roof would do greatly & all you idiots saying he would or can't hurt kaido is wrong, people didn't thought no one the roof except luffy would hurt kaido but everyone one roof use new move or previous moves that are much strong & they hurt him df DF y'all talking about , sanji would so great things up there & I'm pretty sure big mom or kaido wasn't tagging because invisible attack would be really helpful imagine it in many ways
:gokulaugh: sanji got hurt by casual page one , he couldn't make page one bleeding ,got overpowered easily by casual King and begged for his life , ran away from boro breath :gokulaugh:
 
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#98
Sanji would do really goo
Didn't current enma zolo at the time was struggling against beetle man & got shit on by apoo? Then went to roof & show greatly, sanji against pay pay was only testing out his suit nothing more & he was doj g greatly even though he had no knowledge how to use the suit think about it :choppawhat:
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Sanji on the roof would do greatly & all you idiots saying he would or can't hurt kaido is wrong, people didn't thought no one the roof except luffy would hurt kaido but everyone one roof use new move or previous moves that are much strong & they hurt him df DF y'all talking about , sanji would so great things up there & I'm pretty sure big mom or kaido wasn't tagging because invisible attack would be really helpful imagine it in many ways
Sanji still ain’t make queen bleed. Chopper has better portrayal
 
#99
Sanji would do really goo
Didn't current enma zolo at the time was struggling against beetle man & got shit on by apoo? Then went to roof & show greatly, sanji against pay pay was only testing out his suit nothing more & he was doj g greatly even though he had no knowledge how to use the suit think about it :choppawhat:
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Sanji on the roof would do greatly & all you idiots saying he would or can't hurt kaido is wrong, people didn't thought no one the roof except luffy would hurt kaido but everyone one roof use new move or previous moves that are much strong & they hurt him df DF y'all talking about , sanji would so great things up there & I'm pretty sure big mom or kaido wasn't tagging because invisible attack would be really helpful imagine it in many ways
Show me the panel of him struggling with beetle man. He was fighting beetle and several other beetle men as stated from beetleman. So show me the panels of only beetle man and zoro clashing. I will wait.

Sanji in Zou needed the assistance of broke to take down sheep head lol

Name the move in sanjis arsenal that could hurt kaido.

Killer used sounds waves that sliced kaido from the inside

Luffy used advanced ryou to bypass kaidos durability and hit him from within

Kidd didn't do shit but slam him to the ground

Law used gamma knife. A devil fruit ability that allows Law to bypass durability and hit his target from the inside.

Zoro stayed screw it and used Large AP attacks lol

Sanji with or without raid suit lacks all of this
 
Your argument is basically, others did so Sanji could too which is a poor point. Might as well extend that to every single character while you are at it.
With the way Oda writes, if put under the same circumstances, yes I believe so but let's agree to disagree on this πŸ™πŸΏ
Chances are we see a SHs v Kaido type matchup at some point in this arc, if so we'll see how Sanji fares against Kaido ^^

"not only that"
What else then?

No the argument is, there was nothing showing they weren't able to. Also the only people who actually were able to were Luffy and Zoro. So your point is already wrong from the beginning. Oda didn't let Kidd , Killer and Law magically start doing actual damage to Kaido.
Well by that same logic there is nothing showing that Sanji won't be able to hurt Kaido too. I mean he hasn't tried to and failed.
On the bolded bit, really? how would you explain Kaido screaming in pain from their attacks then? Even if it was superficial, the way Oda wrote that implied that they did.
If your argument is that Luffy and Zoro dealt the most damage to Kaido then I agree with that.
Fyi, I also really dislike Oda hyping Kaido's durability to high heaven & then allowing errone and their grandma have a go at him but it is what it is at this point lol

The only dumb arguments are those that ignore context.

1. Inu and Neko didn't unlock "Oden's Ryou" until they casted out their name and put their all in their first attack against Kaido. That in itself gave them an increased AP than they had before.
Now this is something I've never seen before:catsweat:.
Was this stated in this story or is this your way of justifying them being able to use it?
If it's the earlier, I'd love to see the panels πŸ™πŸΏ

2. Inu and Neko did not use Sulong when facing Jack
Correct they did not, but Inu and Neko possesses the ability to hurt Kaido in base with their Haki :catsweat: (If you are able to provide conclusive evidence for point 1 then I'll change my opinion on this ^^)

Also, if anyone is ignoring context, it is those that claim that the Rooftop 5 are stronger than Yonko Commanders etc because they were able to deal damage to Kaido to some degree. The scabbards were also able to hurt Kaido but let's also put them above commanders whilst we are it (even though we have in manga evidence that the strongest of the lot are only as strong as base Jack, save the dukes in sulong)
 
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