Powers & Abilities What is even purpose of Aokiji having awakening ?

#1
A lot of people either think Aokiji has awakening or think he may show it in future. But I dont see actual reason for him to have it , simply because of scale and strength of his devil fruit feats.

- a continent of ice in a second


- Freezing entire town


- Freezing tsunamis and half an island and changing island climate



- Freezing yonko commanders in second



So his devil fruit allows him to create entire continent of ice in moment , it allows him to freeze something like entire city , it can change climate of an island as side effect of his powers, it can one shot yonko commander level opponents in a second.

Given how his devil fruit operates on such huge scale and with quick efficiency I dont see what else awakening could bring to his powers.
 
#3
For months or year, i am in belief that Logia fruits do not have awakening

Their powers are already broken to do whatever they want with their bodies and to the environment around

If logia fruits have awakening, then only Akainu and Teach will have awakening
 
#5
wdym what is even the purpose?

Well for starters, the ice you mentioned, it can only hold there for a week
Meanwhile the ice of his fight vs Akainu on Punk Hazard lasted for 2 years and not stopping. It's there forever.


Just like Akainu with his awakening managed to spawn volcanoes
so did Kuzan with his awakening managed to spawn ice mountains:


Just like Akainu with awakening managed to create a fire so strong that it burns the ocean for 2 years, defying the logic


so can Kuzan can create a cold so strong that it can even scar a magma man


So your question is just plain retarded.
You might as well ask "what's the point of ACoC if CoA exists? Both punch harder!"
 
#6
A lot of people either think Aokiji has awakening or think he may show it in future. But I dont see actual reason for him to have it , simply because of scale and strength of his devil fruit feats.

- a continent of ice in a second


- Freezing entire town


- Freezing tsunamis and half an island and changing island climate



- Freezing yonko commanders in second



So his devil fruit allows him to create entire continent of ice in moment , it allows him to freeze something like entire city , it can change climate of an island as side effect of his powers, it can one shot yonko commander level opponents in a second.

Given how his devil fruit operates on such huge scale and with quick efficiency I dont see what else awakening could bring to his powers.
The things you are listing here are the result of a person’s power who has awakened his fruit.
 
#7
Maybe the strength of his fruit use is the reason he has awakening, since he can use those powers really well
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And I just realised Aokiji did what I said admirals could do just like emperors, one shot commanders
 
#8
wdym what is even the purpose?

Well for starters, the ice you mentioned, it can only hold there for a week
Meanwhile the ice of his fight vs Akainu on Punk Hazard lasted for 2 years and not stopping. It's there forever.


Just like Akainu with his awakening managed to spawn volcanoes
so did Kuzan with his awakening managed to spawn ice mountains:


Just like Akainu with awakening managed to create a fire so strong that it burns the ocean for 2 years, defying the logic


so can Kuzan can create a cold so strong that it can even scar a magma man


So your question is just plain retarded.
You might as well ask "what's the point of ACoC if CoA exists? Both punch harder!"
Aokiji simply said that will hold for week he never mentioned actual limitations for duration of his ice. If ice lasting permanently and creation of ice mountains is result of his awakening then it's understandable why Aokiji would need awakening to buff his ice powers.

But if all of this is his devil fruit acting at base level then what more can you ask from awakening. His devil fruit already freezes in second, lasts forever and affects entire island.

Ice age that can affect entire planet is only possible upgrade from all this if he is not already awaken.
 
#9
As others have pointed, it can change a place's climate permanently; while his "normal" powers have a duration (e.g.: a week in Long Ring Long Land Arc), his awakened powers can change an island's climate permanently (e.g.: Punk Hazard). But I'd like to add something else: it's also a stronger type of ice, as it could permanently scar even Akainu... you can kinda see this concept in the Aurora Execution technique used by Cygnus Hyoga and Aquarius Camus from Saint Seiya (it can reach the "absolute zero", -273 °C / -460 °F).


 
#10
Aokiji simply said that will hold for week he never mentioned actual limitations for duration of his ice. If ice lasting permanently and creation of ice mountains is result of his awakening then it's understandable why Aokiji would need awakening to buff his ice powers.

But if all of this is his devil fruit acting at base level then what more can you ask from awakening. His devil fruit already freezes in second, lasts forever and affects entire island.

Ice age that can affect entire planet is only possible upgrade from all this if he is not already awaken.
I don't even understand what you are complaining about. Seems like schizophrenia
 
#12
Because big AOE attacks don't mean much against strong characters or characters of same level.

DF awakening is actual powerup which will matter in combat and make it's user much more powerful.

Like law already had big DC mountain cutting ability without awakening.

If it is something where it gives it's user a transformation then even more so it will be useful.
 
#14
I already have the belief Aokiji has awakened his fruit

but these notions are around because Admirals are the pinnacle of devil fruit users with their fruits on average being in the highest category of abilities, The way the admirals utilize their fruits looks like pure mastery

+ the element department , Elements have no limits and look at punk hazard it'll forever be what Akainu/Aokiji chose for it to be.
 
#15
Self autonomy of his ice literally allowing him to fight alongside the force of nature itself without him having to actively defend or attack it would all be automatic is my guess cause that would be a very literal term for awakening, awakening the will of the power itself.

Basically like Gaaras sand
 
#16
Kuzan being able to freeze such massive bodies of water is impressive, but in a competitive fight ( vs a fellow top tier ) it's not that relevant imo, it'll just prevent him being drowned ( by WB/BB, Garp with Blue Hole )
Also Luffy if he throws Kuzan to sea ( he did that to Kizaru )
And Fuji who can try drop him to sea, maybe Kizaru if he tries the 1092 acceleration kick

But yes outside of instantly freezing water, he has really fast attack speed
It seems he was able to fully freeze San Juan before the latter could finish his movement ( San Juan looked like he was trying to help his crewmates or attack Kuzan )

The Chocolate Town freezing was also probably done fast
But as fast and big his non-Awakened attacks are, Awakening may still give him something
If Kizaru's clones are Awakening ( they seem to have their own will, able to follow Luffy without real Kizaru who went for Vegapunk ), then maybe Aokiji can make clones too which can be troublesome ( imagine 20+ Aokijis trying to freeze/punch/impale 1 opponent on top of real Aokiji )

Plus, Volcanoes are presumably Logia Awakening, it's not confirmed but it's almost as good as confirmed imo, it's like Dragon or Imu having CoC.
If that is Awakening then Kuzan certainly countered their Magma with whatever his Awakening is ( maybe Ice Storm spanning half PH ), if that's true that is bigger in scale than anything he has shown outside freezing water in Long Land, maybe even bigger than freezing MF tsunamis
Freezing water which is only useful to prevent him from drowning by another top tier

Edit : yeah after looking at panels of chapter 659 and 674, i'm sure half PH is much bigger than the Tsunamis.
 
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#17
The day you accept logia Admirals don't have awakening, the better

Oda didn't bother showing us gorosei awakening even though only Saturn went all out and yet Kizaru showed nothing

Kaku didn't go all out and showed awakening

GB won't have it
Kizaru doesn't have it
Kuzan doesn't have it
Akainu might have it
 
#18
Logia devil fruit awakening can be special.
It doesn't necessarily have to mirror paramacia type Huge attack range or environment changes.

Punk hazard was simply results of their power.
If logia are all natural elements. Then awakening would nature bending.
 
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