Character Discussion What purpose does Kidd serve that Blackbeard doesn't?

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#82
Well...WG were last minute addition. So don't think that Oda give so much thought before drawing them.
Compared to BB , he is friendly rival. What BB have done so far is beyond redemption.
 
#83
BB will be defeated next arc lmfao
We don't even know what next arc is. Could be Elbaf, could be a Marine-focused arc where Luffy fights Sakazuki or a Davy Back with Shanks before preparing for Chadbeard.

scabbards + SN'S + yamato + marco possibly + current luffy can easily be > version of luffy who defeats BB
Crydo didn't fight them all at once, and he had Jack/Meme's help during these rounds. And more importantly, Crydo's healing factor and durability is what allows him to continue fighting on.

Prime Luffy (who stomps Roger) will extreme diff or stalemate Prime BB.
 
#84
We don't even know what next arc is. Could be Elbaf, could be a Marine-focused arc where Luffy fights Sakazuki or a Davy Back with Shanks before preparing for Chadbeard.



Crydo didn't fight them all at once, and he had Jack/Meme's help during these rounds. And more importantly, Crydo's healing factor and durability is what allows him to continue fighting on.

Prime Luffy (who stomps Roger) will extreme diff or stalemate Prime BB.
Could be elbaf but who would luffy fight against seriously with full power? Marines mostly will fall last ; they as a group are more impotrant to grander OP story void century and every thing........

He did and meme helped rarely even then it mattered on panel when fighting dragon kaido.........

And what makes you think luffy will be in his prime when fighting BB? BB easily can be next big bad luffy will fight against and seeing how oda wants to end one piece in 5 years and this is yonko saga not marine or giant saga.......
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
#85
Could be elbaf but who would luffy fight against seriously with full power? Marines mostly will fall last ; they as a group are more impotrant to grander OP story void century and every thing........

He did and meme helped rarely even then it mattered on panel when fighting dragon kaido.........

And what makes you think luffy will be in his prime when fighting BB? BB easily can be next big bad luffy will fight against and seeing how oda wants to end one piece in 5 years and this is yonko saga not marine or giant saga.......
One Piece will likely not end before 2027 kicks in. There's too much content to unfold.

Elbaf, Final War, Laugh Tale, probably Marie Geoise and likely a little more left even if taking a few chapters. And other than this the ending aftermath after all enemies are vanquished.

I think Oda would need to make a miracle to finish the job in 6 years and plus which should account for 200 chapters or so.
 
#86
Could be elbaf but who would luffy fight against seriously with full power? Marines mostly will fall last ; they as a group are more impotrant to grander OP story void century and every thing........

He did and meme helped rarely even them it mattered on panel when fighting dragon kaido.........

And what makes you think luffy will be in his prime when fighting BB? BB easily can be next big bad luffy will fight against and seeing how oda wants to end one piece in 5 years and this is yonko saga not marine or giant saga.......
Crydo had Meme pressuring the Rooftop team in the second round with the Super Rookies themselves needing to come up with a plan to separate them, causing both Kid and Killer to leave the fight. How could've Crydo even performed Hakai without Meme's help?

If it wasn't for Meme, a healthy Zoro + Kid + Killer would've still been fighting next to Luffy and focusing on Crydo. Meme even protected Crydo from Killer's attack.

Elbaf is strong enough to give Meme a victory over the other Yonko, very likely for them to be ruled by an actual top tier which could be their God/Loki's father. Or it could be the place where Luffy meets and fights Shanks since the latter has some connections with Elbaf.

Nothing says all emperos would fall in the Yonko saga, henceforth nothing guarantees Marines being last antagonists.
 
#87
Crydo had Meme pressuring the Rooftop team in the second round with the Super Rookies themselves needing to come up with a plan to separate them, causing both Kid and Killer to leave the fight. How could've Crydo even performed Hakai without Meme's help?

If it wasn't for Meme, a healthy Zoro + Kid + Killer would've still been fighting next to Luffy and focusing on Crydo. Meme even protected Crydo from Killer's attack.

Elbaf is strong enough to give Meme a victory over the other Yonko, very likely for them to be ruled by an actual top tier which could be their God/Loki's father. Or it could be the place where Luffy meets and fights Shanks since the latter has some connections with Elbaf.

Nothing says all emperos would fall in the Yonko saga, henceforth nothing guarantees Marines being last antagonists.
Yeah hakai is the only thing we see on panel when considering hybrid kaido and even with midd what can he do to kaido lol.........his AP sucks and possibly least useful

Pretty sure kaido can use his own version on ranged attack like hakai albeit smaller than hakai.......hell if it isn't for pis kaido can also use ringing arrow as yamato can

As numbers probably...........giants are powerful fodders and even a 5 year BM was stomping them lol..........

Nothing concrete but still yonko saga is what it is and as I said marines especially someone like imu is much more imp than Lackbeard because of Void century and stuff
 
#88
Yeah hakai is the only thing we see on panel when considering hybrid kaido and even with midd what can he do to kaido lol.........his AP sucks and possibly least useful

Pretty sure kaido can use his own version on ranged attack like hakai albeit smaller than hakai.......hell if it isn't for pis kaido can also use ringing arrow as yamato can

As numbers probably...........giants are powerful fodders and even a 5 year BM was stomping them lol..........

Nothing concrete but still yonko saga is what it is and as I said marines especially someone like imu is much more imp than Lackbeard because of Void century and stuff
Meme helped Crydo to cripple Zoro with Hakai. Meme shot Killer down when he was making Crydo scream like a bitch with Sonic Scythe, And constantly tried to kill Luffy which caused Zoro and Law to focus on defending Luffy from her.

Meme also shot down Zoro moments after Hiryu Kaen with Tenjin, which also targeted Law/Kid and Luffy giving Crydo an opening with a fire breath attack. The entire rooftop team excluding Luffy had to focuse on removing Meme from the battlefield which allowed Kaido to 1v1 base Luffy.

Had Crydo been alone against the rooftop team he would've been dead long ago.
 
#89
Meme helped Crydo to cripple Zoro with Hakai. Meme shot Killer down when he was making Crydo scream like a bitch with Sonic Scythe, And constantly tried to kill Luffy which caused Zoro and Law to focus on defending Luffy from her.

Meme also shot down Zoro before moments after Hiryu Kaen with Tenjin, which also targeted Law/Kid and Luffy giving Crydo an opening with a fire breath attack. The entire rooftop team excluding Luffy had to focuse on removing Meme from the battlefield which allowed Kaido to 1v1 base Luffy.

Had Crydo been alone against the rooftop team he would've been dead long ago.
I think you forget the part where kaido was in his dragon form and is very easy to attack lol as I have stated and kaido should be able to use half the hakai by himself

And how kaido would be dead? Kaido looks clean in recent chapter what can midd do to kaido? Lol

Fraud runawaybeard is mostly next in line to get defeated and that will be one on one fight in yonko saga.

I hope he doesn't runs from luffy when he sees him :saden:
 
#90
I think you forget the part where kaido was in his dragon form and is very easy to attack lol as I have stated and kaido should be able to use half the hakai by himself

And how kaido would be dead? Kaido looks clean in recent chapter what can midd do to kaido? Lol

Fraud runawaybeard is mostly next in line to get defeated and that will be one on one fight in yonko saga.

I hope he doesn't runs from luffy when he sees him :saden:
Both Law and a walking corpse Zoro with broken bones easily landed attacks on hybrid Crydo though, Denjiro, Kinemon and Killer tagged base Crydo as well. Kid and Killer never got the chance to clown his hybrid because they had to chase after Meme. Even if Crydo's inferior Hakai exists it won't be large enough that the Super Rookies won't even have the time to evade and sacrifice Zoro in the process.

Prime Blackbeard shit stomps both of the fraudulent clowns Crydo and Meme, and all Crydo's stans who bashed BB would drop OP when Oda hits power inflation endgame after your god Crydo's long dead.

I will make sure to quote this when time comes to laugh.
 
#91
Both Law and a walking corpse Zoro with broken bones easily landed attacks on hybrid Crydo though, Denjiro, Kinemon and Killer tagged base Crydo as well. Kid and Killer never got the chance to clown his hybrid because they had to chase after Meme. Even if Crydo's inferior Hakai exists it won't be large enough that the Super Rookies won't even have the time to evade and sacrifice Zoro in the process.

Prime Blackbeard shit stomps both of the fraudulent clowns Crydo and Meme, and all Crydo's stans who bashed BB would drop OP when Oda hits power inflation endgame after your god Crydo's long dead.

I will make sure to quote this when time comes to laugh.
Law has hax and zoro possibly adv coc. What Midd has to hurt Waido? lol

Hakai was easily island level attack when going out of onigashima with same size.........even half the hakai should be big to cover small area they were standing

Fraudbeard who runs away from everyone? Lol.............we waido fans will be eating good because no villain bar Imu maybe will fight and defeat so many characters lol. I don't usually make fun of fraudbeard but now that I think no top tier will be as coward and fraud as him lmfao

I will make sure to quote this when time comes to laugh.
 
#92
Law has hax and zoro possibly adv coc. What Midd has to hurt Waido? lol

Hakai was easily island level attack when going out of onigashima with same size.........even half the hakai should be big to cover small area they were standing

Fraudbeard who runs away from everyone? Lol.............we waido fans will be eating good because no villain bar Imu maybe will fight and defeat so many characters lol. I don't usually make fun of fraudbeard but now that I think no top tier will be as coward and fraud as him lol

I will make sure to quote this when time comes to laugh.
This is what you said:

I think you forget the part where kaido was in his dragon form and is very easy to attack lol
And i simply replied by showing that semi-dead Zoro and Law were fast enough to tag Crydo, literally has nothing to do with hax or attack strength which i never brought up. And even that point is moot since rocks aren't hax. Hybrid doesn't give more resilience than full-form do.

You're getting so wet over Im there, get a grip on yourself. I won't be shocked if BB hate drives you to unconsciously wank admirals and any endgame material character out of spite.
 
#93
This is what you said:



And i simply replied by showing that semi-dead Zoro and Law were fast enough to tag Crydo, literally has nothing to do with hax or attack strength which i never brought up. And even that point is moot since rocks aren't hax. Hybrid doesn't give more resilience than full-form do.

You're getting so wet over Im there, get a grip on yourself. I won't be shocked if BB hate drives you to unconsciously wank admirals and any endgame material character out of spite.
And the prob is not tagging but doing meaningful damage ; law has internal destruction hax and zoro adv coc ; What can midd do? Punk gibson? lol

I am not imu being someone like kaguya it seems and no I will be always pro yonko even if it is coward fraudbeard
 
#94
And the prob is not tagging but doing meaningful damage ; law has internal destruction hax and zoro adv coc ; What can midd do? Punk gibson? lol

I am not imu being someone like kaguya it seems and no I will be always pro yonko even if it is coward fraudbeard
Kaido himself acknowledged both Kid and Law were able to hurt him, and he had the same reaction to Kid's slam Gibson and Killer's scyther Sonic. Just because Kid's attack wasn't as flashy doesn't mean it didn't inflict damage like Killer's.

Keep drooling over Im, both him and BB no diff Crydo the Vegapunk laboratory slave and Xebec's servant.
 
#95
Kaido himself acknowledged both Kid and Law were able to hurt him, and he had the same reaction to Kid's slam Gibson and Killer's scyther Sonic. Just because Kid's attack wasn't as flashy doesn't mean it didn't inflict damage like Killer's.

Keep drooling over Im, both him and BB no diff Crydo the Vegapunk laboratory slave and Xebec's servant.
It did some damage but not as much as law's internal attacks of course.........waido healing through everything like those superficial attacks will do anything

Kaido is not fraudbeard who screamed like a bitch from pre skip luffy's attacks lol

Fraudbeard called kaido a monster lmfao keep crying , fraudbeard requires 2-3 df to keep up with Waido and still will get defeated by luffy after this arc in one to one fight lol
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
#97
Kidd did not really substantially hurt a single yonko so far, heck it looks to me that Killer dealt more substantial damage when balancing the two out. That's a very likely inference at least. This does not mean he surely cannot but the premises are not good for now.
 
#99
Kid is a rival of Luffy but not the number 1 rival. Blackbeard is Luffy's final enemy but also his real rival.

There were so many parallels between their crews, the fact that they are from the D family, they have the 2 doctors in their crews, snipers and so on. Not to mention that Imu-Sama magically had the first 2 of Luffy and Blackbeard in addition to the photos of Poseidon and Vivi There were so many parallels between their crews, the fact that they are from the D family, they have the 2 doctors in their crews, snipers and so on.

Not to mention that Imu-Sama magically had the first 2 of Luffy and Blackbeard in addition to the photos of Poseidon and Vivi
 
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