Character Discussion What was Rayleigh the king of?

#1
He was one of the strongest conquerors in OP, so surely he had to have kingly ambitions. But what were they?

Roger was pirate king, Oden was daimyo of Udon, and Shanks became a yonko.

But what did Rayleigh do? Surely he had to have done something to be known as the dark king.

My theory is that prime Rayleigh was king of the underworld/black market. Kinda like what Doffy was, except Ray was an actual top tier. Hence, being the king of the underworld, he gained the epithet “dark king”.

Roger had Wealth, Fame, and Power. Perhaps Rayleigh’s underworld dealings brought him immense wealth. Wealth he ultimately left on Laugh Tale, adding to the treasure Joyboy left.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#4
Every King title we know of was granted due to Strength.
Alber became King because he was too strong for a regular name, even at age of 16, in eyes of WSC.
Ryuma became King because he was strongest in the world.
Zoro became King when he took his haki a step above the handful of very strongest.
Rayleigh became King most likely due to his strength, he was possibly stronger than Roger.
 
#6
I always thought it was self explanatory.

The Dark King... because he willingly lived in the shadow of the Pirate King despite being comparable to him and could have been a king in his own right.

Similar to Zoro, his current time parallel, and possibly similar to Beckman to a lesser extent if he doesn't disappoint.
 
#11
Rayleigh became King most likely due to his strength, he was possibly stronger than Roger.
You ever get tired of talking out your ass? At the age of 76 Rayleigh had a worse performance against an Admiral, than Garp, Roger's actual rival, at the age of 78. The best Rayleigh could do was keep Kizaru at bay, while wishing he could do more to protect everyone. Garp took on a former Admiral and countless members of the Blackbeard pirates by himself. And was two years older when he did it.
 
S

Sasaki Kojirō

#12
I think Rayleigh played a crucial role in helping Roger become the Pirate King, I mean the strategic part and everything else could all be thanks to Rayleigh, and from there came the Dark King, behind it all, he was the one truly orchestrating it, and without him, Roger would never have reached the Pirate King throne. On the other hand, Kaido is:

  • Dragon King
  • Beast King
  • Wisdom King.
And just like Roger and Rayleigh, Luffy and Zoro, Kaido and King share parallels. Rayleigh is called the Dark King, Zoro proclaimed himself the King of Hell, and Kaido named Alber as King.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#14
You ever get tired of talking out your ass? At the age of 76 Rayleigh had a worse performance against an Admiral, than Garp, Roger's actual rival, at the age of 78. The best Rayleigh could do was keep Kizaru at bay, while wishing he could do more to protect everyone. Garp took on a former Admiral and countless members of the Blackbeard pirates by himself. And was two years older when he did it.
You ever get tired at failing at basic narrative?
I literally have shown you evidence of every King title being strength-related. Do you think Ray's is an exception?
Another thing you are failing at is context, Rayleigh has been inactive for decades, drinking himself to sleep while Garp was active soldier.
Another thing you fail at is thinking Aokiji and Kizaru are equal, they are not. We have seen their performance against Whitebeard.
One is trying hard against him while the other is zapping him without even bothering to look at him.
One is sloppy to get blitzed by old man while the other is speed itself.

And no, Garp didnt take countless members of BBPs by himself, he had plenty of help.
Not like anyone else matters other than Kuzan and Shiryu who never teamed-up at the same time but always faced Garp in 1vs1.
And to get back at the narrative failure, that was Garp's send off gift, temporarily holding out vs Kuzan and Shiryu before getting rekt, just like Marco temporarily looked like hot shit before getting negged by King alone. Meanwhile, Rayleigh is still there and his performance against Kizaru aint a send off gift to make him look great before he is offed.
 
#16
Celestial D. Dragon said:
The best Rayleigh could do was keep Kizaru at bay, while wishing he could do more to protect everyone. Garp took on a former Admiral and countless members of the Blackbeard pirates by himself. And was two years older when he did it.
Neither of them took any damage, lol.
 
#17
Rayleigh became King most likely due to his strength, he was possibly stronger than Roger.
<> Rayleigh's Vivre card :


■Gender: Male
■Ship: Oro Jackson
■Birthday: May 13
■Age: 78 years old
■Height: 188cm
■Zodiac Sign: Taurus
■Blood Type: XF
■Birthplace: ____
■Favorite food: Boiled beans
【Bounty】
■CV: Keiichi Sonobe

Main paragraph:
Former vice captain of Roger's Pirates!!
The man who was called "the right hand of the Pirate King"!!

Rayleigh once stood by Roger's side and was feared as the "Dark King". After learning everything about the world and the death of his partner, he went into a long secluded life in the Shabondy Islands, waiting for the rise of the young power that would lead the next generation. Then the time came. Luffy, the man to whom his former subordinate "Red Hair" entrusted his one arm and straw hat. Rayleigh, too, has decided to entrust everything he has to this young man, who has sought freedom more than anyone else, pursued his dreams, risked his life for his brother Ace , but he lost him.

Top left paragraph:
【The "Dark King"】
The only thing that you get by challenging him is a one-way ticket to the underworld. Though he is old, his power is immense.


Middle paragraph:
The encounter with his ally Roger changed Rayleigh's destiny drastically...!!

Middle left paragraph:
His color of the "armament", which can stop even an admiral of the Navy in his tracks, is brilliant.

Middle right paragraph:
The godlike ability to analyze situations that once supported the "Pirate King" still remains.

Bottom middle paragraph:
The days of adventure with Red Hair, and others. The two years with Luffy were reminiscent of those heated times.


■性別:男
■所属船:オーロ・ジャクソン号
■誕生日:5月13日
■年齢:78歳
■身長:188cm
■星座:おうし座
■血液型:XF型
■出身:
■好物:煮豆
【懸賞金】
■CV:園部啓一

Main paragraph:
元ロジャー海賊団副船長!!
"海賊王の右腕"と呼ばれた男!!

かつてロジャーの傍らに立ち、“冥王〟と恐れられた男レイリー。やがて世界の全てを知り、盟友の死を経た彼は、次代を担う若き力の台頭を待ち、シャボンディ諸島での長隠遁生活に入った。そして時は来た。かつての部下”赤髪〟が、自身の片腕と麦わら帽子を託した男・ルフィ。誰より自由を求め、夢を追い、義兄の為に命を懸け、そして失ったこの青年に、レイリーもまた、自身の全てを託そうと決めた。

Top left paragraph:
【冥王〟】
挑む者が得るのは、冥府への片道切符のみ。老いたれど、その実力は絶大。

Middle paragraph:
盟友ロジャーとの出会いが、レイリーの運命を大きく変えた・・・!!

Middle left paragraph:
海軍大将をも足止めする“武装色、冴え。

Middle right paragraph:
かつて海賊王〟を支えた、神がかり的な状況分析能力は今も健在。

Bottom middle paragraph:
赤髪、らとの冒険の日々。ルフィとの2年間は、熱き時代を彷彿させた。

 
#18
You ever get tired of talking out your ass? At the age of 76 Rayleigh had a worse performance against an Admiral, than Garp, Roger's actual rival, at the age of 78. The best Rayleigh could do was keep Kizaru at bay, while wishing he could do more to protect everyone. Garp took on a former Admiral and countless members of the Blackbeard pirates by himself. And was two years older when he did it.
Garp was using adv coc which oda didn’t have ray use at the time . Also garp did jack shit
 
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