Character Discussion What was Rayleigh the king of?

#41
I always thought it was self explanatory.

The Dark King... because he willingly lived in the shadow of the Pirate King despite being comparable to him and could have been a king in his own right.

Similar to Zoro, his current time parallel, and possibly similar to Beckman to a lesser extent if he doesn't disappoint.
Hey man, very good post. That makes perfect sense.
 
#44
NO SECOND HAND IS STRONGER THAN THEIR CAPTAIN, NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU TRY TO HEADCANNON, ZORO WILL NEVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR BE STRONGER THAN LUFFY.
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Wb beat him in one gura punch, roger beat him in one kamusari, thats a neg.
Anime isn’t canon kid as far as oda is concerned wb did nothing to oden .
Oden took no damage from Roger kid he literally ran back to fight him , what story are you reading
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#45
You didnt stick to facts because you didnt pay attention.

And like I said, among Kaido's 5 who all fought Kaido, only Oden has something to show for.
WB admitted inferiority. Oden said nobody can do it if he himself cant.
Shanks has nothing to do with RHM Oden being above Whitebeard. Neither does Rocks.

They are all captains who couldnt do what a mere RHM could - leave a mark on Kaido.
And the part you lied about/didnt pay attention - Roger and WB never faced prime Oden after he got aCoC.
When they faced him before he had aCoC, they couldnt neg him either which is a lie indeed.
 
#46
I don't know man he gives of vibe of a prince of fallen Kingdom. I mean look at the name.

" Silvers Rayleigh "
No random mf name their kid this.
Nah, it’s just Oda playing elemental names with Roger having gold, Ray having silver and Gaban having copper. Parents aren’t that much involved in Op lol
 
#48
Why Rayleigh is stronger than roger?

-He's mentioned in the same breadth as wb.

-He is zoros parallel.

Leadership in one piece is about gathering a stronger crew. Xebec did It through quantity over quality with so many top tiers but all are weaker than him while Roger is the opposite. He only has few but Rayleigh is stronger than his captain. That's how respected he is as a leader that a stronger guy is willing to become his subordinate. And it will only be surpassed by Luffy when the strongest in the world becomes his subordinate.
 
#49
He was one of the strongest conquerors in OP, so surely he had to have kingly ambitions. But what were they?

Roger was pirate king, Oden was daimyo of Udon, and Shanks became a yonko.

But what did Rayleigh do? Surely he had to have done something to be known as the dark king.

My theory is that prime Rayleigh was king of the underworld/black market. Kinda like what Doffy was, except Ray was an actual top tier. Hence, being the king of the underworld, he gained the epithet “dark king”.

Roger had Wealth, Fame, and Power. Perhaps Rayleigh’s underworld dealings brought him immense wealth. Wealth he ultimately left on Laugh Tale, adding to the treasure Joyboy left.

What? Doffy also is a top tier. You can argue Rayleigh to be stronger, but if the position requieres fame and power, why is Doffy always the exception?

Warlords? Doffy is Urogue level, below Cracker, power balance does not apply to him

Aokiji says he is dangerous? Nah, he meant Kakdo was the real deal.

Dressrosa? Oda didnt make Zoro, Sabo, Fujitora even Chinjao fight him or will die sooner lol.

Punkhazard? Dude ran away frlm Aokiji by random freeze.

Biggest broker? It doesn't require power, even Bege can be better lol.

Doffy has many hype, but they are always an exception for him and it aint real.
 
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#52
You didnt stick to facts because you didnt pay attention.

And like I said, among Kaido's 5 who all fought Kaido, only Oden has something to show for.
WB admitted inferiority. Oden said nobody can do it if he himself cant.
Shanks has nothing to do with RHM Oden being above Whitebeard. Neither does Rocks.

They are all captains who couldnt do what a mere RHM could - leave a mark on Kaido.
And the part you lied about/didnt pay attention - Roger and WB never faced prime Oden after he got aCoC.
When they faced him before he had aCoC, they couldnt neg him either which is a lie indeed.
Whitebeard at the end of his life, at his 70s with cancer rotting his body from the inside out, admitted that he could not take Kaido's army in his current state.

This is sticking to the facts.

Both shanks and xebec are in his top 5, one was WB's captain and the other split the skies with him, they are VERY relevant for this discussion.

This is what happened to oden when he faced roger:



Last, but not least: oden's strongest attack couldnt to more than leave a lasting wound against kaido, not to mention he never fought hybrid nor mood swings drunk/anger hybrid kaido, he is the most overrated character in OP and comfortably below the actual top tiers like yonkos, xebec, garp, sengoku, luffy, etc.
 
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#53
Last, but not least: oden's strongest attack couldnt to more than leave a lasting wound against kaido, not to mention he never fought hybrid nor mood swings drunk/anger hybrid kaido, he is the most overrated character in OP and comfortably below the actual top tiers like yonkos, xebec, garp, sengoku, luffy, etc.
Bruh , how do you know that was his strongest?
Does oden using Adcoc scares you that much?
Luffy KO Lucci in 3 hits gear 5 , it's a neg diff , oden KO Kaidou in one shot. Lol no oden weak.
You all are hypocrites.





Whitebeard at the end of his life, at his 70s with cancer rotting his body from the inside out, admitted that he could not take Kaido's army in his current state.

This is sticking to the facts.
Bruh whitebeard didn't wanted an all out war , nothing about age was ever mentioned. What two piece are you reading? What is this sticking to the fact.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#54
Whitebeard at the end of his life, at his 70s with cancer rotting his body from the inside out, admitted that he could not take Kaido's army in his current state.

This is sticking to the facts.

Both shanks and xebec are in his top 5, one was WB's captain and the other split the skies with him, they are VERY relevant for this discussion.

This is what happened to oden when he faced roger:



Last, but not least: oden's strongest attack couldnt to more than leave a lasting wound against kaido, not to mention he never fought hybrid nor mood swings drunk/anger hybrid kaido, he is the most overrated character in OP and comfortably below the actual top tiers like yonkos, xebec, garp, sengoku, luffy, etc.
That is Oden without aCoC as I have already reminded you once.
Odens attack left a scar on Kaido while Roger's attack couldn't scar Oden... :saden:
WB thought he could roll into Marines HQ while he thought he couldnt roll into Wano to do what even Oden couldn't.
Shanks and Xebec fought Kaido and didnt manage to leave a scar...
 
#57
Whitebeard at the end of his life, at his 70s with cancer rotting his body from the inside out, admitted that he could not take Kaido's army in his current state.

This is sticking to the facts.

Both shanks and xebec are in his top 5, one was WB's captain and the other split the skies with him, they are VERY relevant for this discussion.

This is what happened to oden when he faced roger:



Last, but not least: oden's strongest attack couldnt to more than leave a lasting wound against kaido, not to mention he never fought hybrid nor mood swings drunk/anger hybrid kaido, he is the most overrated character in OP and comfortably below the actual top tiers like yonkos, xebec, garp, sengoku, luffy, etc.
Whitebeard knew of oden death before he was 70 and sick . They were explaining to ace why they didn’t go fight kaido meaning they already long passed discussed it . Learn how to read bucko
 
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