Character Discussion What was Rayleigh the king of?

Celestial D. Dragon

Celestial D. Dragon

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#21
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nik87 said:
You ever get tired at failing at basic narrative?
I literally have shown you evidence of every King title being strength-related. Do you think Ray's is an exception?
Another thing you are failing at is context, Rayleigh has been inactive for decades, drinking himself to sleep while Garp was active soldier.
Another thing you fail at is thinking Aokiji and Kizaru are equal, they are not. We have seen their performance against Whitebeard.
One is trying hard against him while the other is zapping him without even bothering to look at him.
One is sloppy to get blitzed by old man while the other is speed itself.

And no, Garp didnt take countless members of BBPs by himself, he had plenty of help.
Not like anyone else matters other than Kuzan and Shiryu who never teamed-up at the same time but always faced Garp in 1vs1.
And to get back at the narrative failure, that was Garp's send off gift, temporarily holding out vs Kuzan and Shiryu before getting rekt, just like Marco temporarily looked like hot shit before getting negged by King alone. Meanwhile, Rayleigh is still there and his performance against Kizaru aint a send off gift to make him look great before he is offed.
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Lmao, that's hilarious coming from you, when your part of the "Pirate KING path is not strength related" brigade. But yet here you sit and now try to argue ALL King titles are strength related.

The amount of hypocrisy here is astonishing. Not only does your logic, that you cherry pick prove the Pirate King title is strength related, but you yourself have just destroyed your initial argument, because Roger is the Pirate King, and Rayleigh is a pirate, lmao.

I won't even get into the rest of the nonsense you spewed. You'd already lost by claiming the man who fought ten days against Akainu, is weaker than Kizaru.

Also news flash, the weakest of a group always goes down first, and as it stands right now, Kizaru is being setup to be the first Admiral defeated.
 
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#23
nik87 said:
Rayleigh became King most likely due to his strength, he was possibly stronger than Roger.
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No second hand is stronger than their captains.
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nik87 said:
Every King title we know of was granted due to Strength.
Alber became King because he was too strong for a regular name, even at age of 16, in eyes of WSC.
Ryuma became King because he was strongest in the world.
Zoro became King when he took his haki a step above the handful of very strongest.
Rayleigh became King most likely due to his strength, he was possibly stronger than Roger.
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@Adamxero take a look at this lol.
 
Thaidakar

Thaidakar

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#24
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Probably the brain behind all the Roger coups. That probably includes the underworld business.
Also powerful enough to be considered as a king behind the actual king. Whether that implies superiority (doesn't have to refer solely to strength) or devotion is by all means left open by Oda.
 
Gauntlet

Gauntlet

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He's the Dark King because he performed the best rimjobs on his captain in his hayday. The future RHM of the Pirate King Zoro should take some notes from Rayleigh.
 
Welkin

Welkin

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Fujishiro said:
Oh my god what am I reading.

Actually forget it, just forget I quoted this Nik.

Sorry.

Where does this say he's stronger then Roger? Apparently its really easy to be stronger then Roger lately.
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Why do y'all quote them when they say things like this

We already know how this goes

Everyone affiliated with a certain character is stronger than Roger

Ryuma is stronger than Roger, Mihawk is stronger than Roger, Rayleigh is stronger than Roger, there's probably someone else I'm forgetting

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Yoho

Yoho

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#30
#30
Rayleigh was a former child trafficker who kidnapped Hancock and her sisters from the ship on Amazon Lily but after falling in love with Shaky he had a change of heart, so he planned to rescue them but later found out a fishing tiger saved them and every other slave which then lead to him finding them and leading them back to Amazon Lily this trafficking job is what gave him the moniker dark king
 
nik87

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
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#32
#32
Celestial D. Dragon said:
Lmao, that's hilarious coming from you, when your part of the "Pirate KING path is not strength related" brigade. But yet here you sit and now try to argue ALL King titles are strength related.

The amount of hypocrisy here is astonishing. Not only does your logic, that you cherry pick prove the Pirate King title is strength related, but you yourself have just destroyed your initial argument, because Roger is the Pirate King, and Rayleigh is a pirate, lmao.

I won't even get into the rest of the nonsense you spewed. You'd already lost by claiming the man who fought ten days against Akainu, is weaker than Kizaru.

Also news flash, the weakest of a group always goes down first, and as it stands right now, Kizaru is being setup to be the first Admiral defeated.
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Strength is the last thing you need for PK, Buggy will prove this to you if you didnt understand it yet.
Plenty of strong people, nobody became PK because strength doesnt make you into PK.
Going to Raftel and finding treasure does.

Pirate King is not like other King titles.
We know for a fact that PK Roger is WEAKER than prime Roger.
It wasnt given to him because he reached the strength he didnt reach before but because he sailed where he didnt sail before.

You got confused by King titles thinking I included PK so you didnt address the rest, lol...
The man who fought Akainu for 10 days and Akainu himself performed worse against Whitebeard than Kizaru did.
I told yall, Light is the supreme logia and the strongest among all the Admirals but yall didnt get it.

News flash, the strongest are among the first to go - Joyboy, Rocks, Whitebeard, Roger, Kaido, Ryuma... All gone.
But the actual strongest in all of history remains, waiting for King of Hell to take his haki even a step higher.
All I told you about narrative are facts that you literally ignored because there is nothing to counter it with.

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No second hand is stronger than their captains.
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I know a couple who are.
Zoro, Shiryu, Oden and most likely Rayleigh.

Fujishiro said:
Oh my god what am I reading.

Actually forget it, just forget I quoted this Nik.

Sorry.
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Shhh. Dont talk to me Fuji-chin. :kriwhat:
 
nik87

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
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CensoredbyWG said:
Whats your reasoning for that? I rlly want to know the thought process of someone who believes oden is stronger than WB.
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Among Kaido's 5, only Oden managed to leave a scar on Kaido.
When he failed to beat Kaido, he said nobody else will be able to either. This is prime WB era.
WB himself backed off from Kaido saying that they cant beat the man that even Kozuki Oden couldnt.
 
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nik87 said:
Among Kaido's 5, only Oden managed to leave a scar on Kaido.
When he failed to beat Kaido, he said nobody else will be able to either. This is prime WB era.
WB himself backed off from Kaido saying that they cant beat the man that even Kozuki Oden couldnt.
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He met kid shanks, never met xebec, got negged by roger and negged by WB.

How is he stronger than them?
 
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#39
ConquistadoR said:
Time to go and re-read the manga top to bottom before coming here and acting like you're hot shit.
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NO SECOND HAND IS STRONGER THAN THEIR CAPTAIN, NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU TRY TO HEADCANNON, ZORO WILL NEVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR BE STRONGER THAN LUFFY.
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Guymieux said:
Negged by wb? Oda never drew that buddy stop lying
Negged by roger? He was perfectly fine
Learn how to read kid
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Wb beat him in one gura punch, roger beat him in one kamusari, thats a neg.
 
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