Questions & Mysteries What was the plan again?

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Herrera95

#21
So let me get this straight, you think Sukuna with low RCT output and no domain expansion is above Gojo?
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Not me. The series is telling us this. Why having low RCT would be relevant if he barely needs to use it and is supposedly using a superior form whatever the hell that form has of superiority if not for extra hands and mouth while supposedly not being able to use 10 shadows.
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How is malevolent shrine complex bro…
Explain pleasr
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You should stick to zoro wanking with your fellows mate, even shonens prove to be too much for you to understand.
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Cry
 
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Not me. The series is telling us this. Why having low RCT would be relevant if he barely needs to use it and is supposedly using a superior form whatever the hell that form has of superiority if not for extra hands and mouth while supposedly not being able to use 10 shadows.
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Explain pleasr
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Cry
Malevolent shrine is his Domain Expansion. With it he’s able to target anything and everything with cursed energy with near infinite slashes of cleaves and dismantles.

It also would destroy any other domain expansion meaning higuruma would’ve gotten negged even harder since judgeman would’ve been destroyed, Yutas domain would be destroyed, and just about every single sorcerer would’ve been killed instantly since they can’t use Reverse Curse Technique like Gojo could to regain access to his Domain Expansion early.

Basically, it’d be an instant win technique and if far weaker people (like Yuta or Yuji) fought alongside Gojo, he’d have been unable to use unlimited void to counter Malevolent Shrine which means everyone would’ve died by sukunas hands.
 
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Herrera95

#25
Malevolent shrine is his Domain Expansion. With it he’s able to target anything and everything with cursed energy with near infinite slashes of cleaves and dismantles.

It also would destroy any other domain expansion meaning higuruma would’ve gotten negged even harder since judgeman would’ve been destroyed, Yutas domain would be destroyed, and just about every single sorcerer would’ve been killed instantly since they can’t use Reverse Curse Technique like Gojo could to regain access to his Domain Expansion early.

Basically, it’d be an instant win technique and if far weaker people (like Yuta or Yuji) fought alongside Gojo, he’d have been unable to use unlimited void to counter Malevolent Shrine which means everyone would’ve died by sukunas hands.
Well first of all as I remember from the fight Sukuna's domain break others domains that are closed. So if you make an open domain it wouldn't be break. Right?

Second, didn't Gojo found ways to prevent Sukuna from breaking his closed domain?

Third, isn't Yuta's RCT superior to Gojo's?

Forth, Sukuna isn't able to use his domain since they stopped clashing domains. What was the reason for them not joining the fight at that moment?

Fifth, I'm pretty sure soon Sukuna will be able to use his domain again and people won't die by it.
 
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Well first of all as I remember from the fight Sukuna's domain break others domains that are closed. So if you make an open domain it wouldn't be break. Right?

Second, didn't Gojo found ways to prevent Sukuna from breaking his closed domain?

Third, isn't Yuta's RCT superior to Gojo's?

Forth, Sukuna isn't able to use his domain since they stopped clashing domains. What was the reason for them not joining the fight at that moment?

Fifth, I'm pretty sure soon Sukuna will be able to use his domain again and people won't die by it.
Opening a domain without a barrier was stated multiple times to be nigh impossible. It’s not something that normal people can do. Only Sukuna and Kenny could and Sukuna did it via heavenly pact. “Painting on the air” metaphor

No he didn’t. Sukuna broke Gojos barrier every time, and as was stated in the manga, changing the make of it multiple times to those who aren’t geniuses like Gojo is also near impossible. He’ll higuruma and hakaris are instinctual anyways so they wouldn’t know how to do it

No. Yuta has a higher abundance of curse energy, but Gojo uses less curse energy for everything he does do to his six eyes and has a more effective RCT

Hollow Purple. If Sukuna used any of them as a shield, for hollow purple Gojo wouldn’t have been able to use it since it would instantly obliterate them but not Sukuna.
 
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Opening a domain without a barrier was stated multiple times to be nigh impossible. It’s not something that normal people can do. Only Sukuna and Kenny could and Sukuna did it via heavenly pact. “Painting on the air” metaphor

No he didn’t. Sukuna broke Gojos barrier every time, and as was stated in the manga, changing the make of it multiple times to those who aren’t geniuses like Gojo is also near impossible. He’ll higuruma and hakaris are instinctual anyways so they wouldn’t know how to do it

No. Yuta has a higher abundance of curse energy, but Gojo uses less curse energy for everything he does do to his six eyes and has a more effective RCT

Hollow Purple. If Sukuna used any of them as a shield, for hollow purple Gojo wouldn’t have been able to use it since it would instantly obliterate them but not Sukuna.
Sukuna didn't create his Domain via Heavenly Pact. What even is a Heavenly Pact?
 
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Sukuna didn't create his Domain via Heavenly Pact. What even is a Heavenly Pact?
Sukuna did use a heavenly pact to assist with his domain. It’s like in Nen, an agreement you make to empower your ability.

Sukuna used a heavenly pact where he can increase his domain range to insane lengths, in exchange for people being capable of escape (no barrier)
 
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Sukuna did use a heavenly pact to assist with his domain. It’s like in Nen, an agreement you make to empower your ability.

Sukuna used a heavenly pact where he can increase his domain range to insane lengths, in exchange for people being capable of escape (no barrier)
It's the opposite - because he managed to create a Domain without closing its barrier, his oponents have an escape route. And because of that escape route a pact is made (or rather bestoved on him) where he can change the diameter of his Domain.
 
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See Herrera’s behavior in this thread is a perfect example of what I mean when I complain about average JJK readers/viewers being unironically dumb/dense/speedreading

There ARE obtuse and convoluted explanations and your discussion over the nuance of what came first the range binding vow or the open barrier is one of them @NikaInParis @Sir Yasheen

But not knowing what malevolent shrine is in the first place?
Huh
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I had this exact same experience half a year ago when I had to explain what a Heavenly Pact (like Maki and Toji’s) was to a bunch of people on reddit.
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See Herrera’s behavior in this thread is a perfect example of what I mean when I complain about average JJK readers/viewers being unironically dumb/dense/speedreading

There ARE obtuse and convoluted explanations and your discussion over the nuance of what came first the range binding vow of the open barrier is one of them @NikaInParis @Sir Yasheen

But not knowing what malevolent shrine is in the first place?
Huh
:kaidowhat:

I had this exact same experience half a year ago when I had to explain what a Heavenly Pact (like Maki and Toji’s) was to a bunch of people on reddit.
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Tbf a lot of the nuanced discussions fans have wouldn't be had if not for faulty translations in the early stages of the manga.

Hell, Malevolent Shrine itself was reffered as a domain without a barrier when in fact it has one but it is not closed (semantics ik but it's part of the story)
 
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Tbf a lot of the nuanced discussions fans have wouldn't be had if not for faulty translations in the early stages of the manga.

Hell, Malevolent Shrine itself was reffered as a domain without a barrier when in fact it has one but it is not closed (semantics ik but it's part of the story)
I also feel like it’s harder to absorb explanations from the anime since you can’t control the pace like when you’re reading and there’s also action/distraction on the screen.
 
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I also feel like it’s harder to absorb explanations from the anime since you can’t control the pace like when you’re reading and there’s also action/distraction on the screen.
I’m interested in how the anime does Sukuna vs Gojo because that fight had constant changing back and forth between action and explanation.

I won’t be shocked if they just do voice over for the action for a big part of it rather than the full cuts
 
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Herrera95

#35
Opening a domain without a barrier was stated multiple times to be nigh impossible. It’s not something that normal people can do. Only Sukuna and Kenny could and Sukuna did it via heavenly pact. “Painting on the air” metaphor

No he didn’t. Sukuna broke Gojos barrier every time, and as was stated in the manga, changing the make of it multiple times to those who aren’t geniuses like Gojo is also near impossible. He’ll higuruma and hakaris are instinctual anyways so they wouldn’t know how to do it

No. Yuta has a higher abundance of curse energy, but Gojo uses less curse energy for everything he does do to his six eyes and has a more effective RCT

Hollow Purple. If Sukuna used any of them as a shield, for hollow purple Gojo wouldn’t have been able to use it since it would instantly obliterate them but not Sukuna.
Ok it is near impossible to open domains without barriers (wasn't the common thing at Sukuna's era and then sorceres evolved to have barrier domains?) but we are talking about individuals that are meant to do near impossible things. I didn't understood that heavenly pact Sukuna make to have a domain without barrier and I remember he said he would make one with barrier after Gojo's realized he couldn't used domains anymore.

Yeah Gojo's barrier were always broken what I actually meant was ways of countering it because after the first or second domain clash they were pretty even and the last one or 2 Gojo even won the trade making Sukuna to summoning Mahoraga. People hype the fuck out of Gojo because of his 6 eyes and limitless but in terms of geniallity Yuta and Yuji are much better.

I remember saying that Yuta had a better RCT because Gojo couldn't use it to heal others. But yes I know Yuta has more CE while Gojo have basically infinite CE because he can regen with his 6 eyes.

First of all why would Sukuna use any of them as shield for hollow purple if Sukuna is not using any of them as shield for the attacks he is receiving? Second why would them being obliterate for example at the Hollow Purple explosion if they can use RCT?

Sukuna didn't create his Domain via Heavenly Pact. What even is a Heavenly Pact?
I know heavenly pact as the thing Maki has. Unable to have CE but being gifted with a superhuman body.
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I’m interested in how the anime does Sukuna vs Gojo because that fight had constant changing back and forth between action and explanation.

I won’t be shocked if they just do voice over for the action for a big part of it rather than the full cuts
One thing I was thinking about it is that they may want to do the Kenjaku Comedy show first since it would be hell boring to watch that shit after the main fight.
 
#36
How is malevolent shrine complex bro…
Which other DE is like Malevolent Shrine?
It also would destroy any other domain expansion meaning higuruma would’ve gotten negged even harder since judgeman would’ve been destroyed, Yutas domain would be destroyed, and just about every single sorcerer would’ve been killed instantly since they can’t use Reverse Curse Technique like Gojo could to regain access to his Domain Expansion early.
Ah I get it now.
Yes, its not complex if you only think in terms of "X is stronger than Y, so X always wins by default".

Shonen Manga live off of ambiguity. If things were always clear cut then there would be no fun discussing them.
Boogie Woogie could render Malevolent Shrine void.
 
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Herrera95

#37
Can someone answer me why both sides waited 30 days to fight?

How both Gojo + allies and Sukuna + allies thought they'd had better chances if they waited for 30 days?

Maybe Gojo didn't knew she had a chance right there when they met and people didn't knew they would be able to give Sukuna extra fingers?

Also there is 1 finger left can he become even stronger with it?
 
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