Future Events What will happen to Kaido now if he's defeated?
- Thread starter Boiroy
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I wish to make something clear to people, even if you think ZKK is bullshit, there is no fucking way Kaido survives this arc. His dream was not to get defeated by Joyboy like some two piece readers are now trying to claim. Its to die in a glorious way. And Luffy didnt kill Kaido!
SOMEBODY has to kill Kaido before this arc ends alright? Be it CP0, Zoro, or the people of Wano wailing on his unconscious body, he has to die. Even with the newly acquired knowledge that his captures were fake, his seven defeats prior to Luffy were not. If all it took to make Kaido into a nice guy who no longer poses a threat to anybody was defeating him, the Wano arc would never have happened in the first place.
SOMEBODY has to kill Kaido before this arc ends alright? Be it CP0, Zoro, or the people of Wano wailing on his unconscious body, he has to die. Even with the newly acquired knowledge that his captures were fake, his seven defeats prior to Luffy were not. If all it took to make Kaido into a nice guy who no longer poses a threat to anybody was defeating him, the Wano arc would never have happened in the first place.
Unless you think Oda literally has memory loss, Kaidous overall dream cannot be to be "defeated" instead of killed all of a sudden. This whole scenario is obvious conflict potential. Luffy is either out for the count or won't kill Kaido judging by how their fight ended this chapter, enraging Kaido that the guy he has been waiting for to finally kill him won't finish the fucking job.
Thus leading to his death via somebody or something else doing it to stop his rampage.
And no this isnt ZKK propaganda or anything like that. Kaido can trip on a rock and fall in a big puddle and drown, or Zuinsha can step on him for all I care, all I am trying to say is there is no way Oda can just retcon the thing about Kaido that was literally his introduction motivation. Kaido is not as much of a Joyboy simp as some people try now claim. Joyboy is a means to an end. He can beat him, and thus kill him. If Luffy aint killing him its not like Kaido would just go "well damn Mister Joyboy, guess I will have to really turn my life around now!" and become a good guy!
It would only be slightly less stupid than Oda saying Zoro didnt ACTUALLY want to become the world's strongest swordsmen, he just wanted to drink the world's strongest booze.
Thus leading to his death via somebody or something else doing it to stop his rampage.
And no this isnt ZKK propaganda or anything like that. Kaido can trip on a rock and fall in a big puddle and drown, or Zuinsha can step on him for all I care, all I am trying to say is there is no way Oda can just retcon the thing about Kaido that was literally his introduction motivation. Kaido is not as much of a Joyboy simp as some people try now claim. Joyboy is a means to an end. He can beat him, and thus kill him. If Luffy aint killing him its not like Kaido would just go "well damn Mister Joyboy, guess I will have to really turn my life around now!" and become a good guy!
It would only be slightly less stupid than Oda saying Zoro didnt ACTUALLY want to become the world's strongest swordsmen, he just wanted to drink the world's strongest booze.
Nothing changed regarding Kaidou's character.
Everything that we are seeing now was one of the most predictable routes for his character. The moment you saw his introduction, the moment characters like Brago from Gash Bell!, Mewtwo from Pokémon or BlackWarGreymon from Digimon should have come to mind —incredibly powerful monsters who were villains yet grew respect for the main character to the point of ultimately losing their threat after changing their mind (plus some of them questioned their life, or developed misanthropy, or were experimented on and/or directly manmade. While people found it strange that he was laughing with Luffy and respecting him, I expected it for years. On top of it, the way some of you guys speak of Kaidou's dream make it feel like he isn't a person who can change even though his obsession with death was probably based on his boredom with the world; if anything, his defeat against the returned Joy Boy should be something with potential to change his view on life —what happened to Brago, what happened to Mewtwo, what happened to BlackWarGreymon, what happened to whatever character fitting this trope you may want to think about.
Kaidou doesn't need to die. He may die, obviously that's one of the possibilities on the table, but he doesn't "need to". His dream means shit (dreams change) and Oda has it easy if he just keeps following the same route he has been working on with the character.
Everything that we are seeing now was one of the most predictable routes for his character. The moment you saw his introduction, the moment characters like Brago from Gash Bell!, Mewtwo from Pokémon or BlackWarGreymon from Digimon should have come to mind —incredibly powerful monsters who were villains yet grew respect for the main character to the point of ultimately losing their threat after changing their mind (plus some of them questioned their life, or developed misanthropy, or were experimented on and/or directly manmade. While people found it strange that he was laughing with Luffy and respecting him, I expected it for years. On top of it, the way some of you guys speak of Kaidou's dream make it feel like he isn't a person who can change even though his obsession with death was probably based on his boredom with the world; if anything, his defeat against the returned Joy Boy should be something with potential to change his view on life —what happened to Brago, what happened to Mewtwo, what happened to BlackWarGreymon, what happened to whatever character fitting this trope you may want to think about.
Kaidou doesn't need to die. He may die, obviously that's one of the possibilities on the table, but he doesn't "need to". His dream means shit (dreams change) and Oda has it easy if he just keeps following the same route he has been working on with the character.
