Speculations What would be sweet commanders bounty if they would be in the beast crew?

[Mohammad211]

These questions are almost irrelevant, Oda will always make your characters fight to the maximum limit of their strength, hurt or not. Unless he says openly or try to suggest in any way that such an injury is directly affected the performance of such a character.

This argument could easily be used as a demerit for Jack, as he in hybrid form was failing to overpower Inu Base which was brutalized much more drastically by Kaido than Jack was to the dukes, with the addition that Inu did not has an Ancestral Zoan with accelerated recovery factor.



I'm not saying that the BMP don't act like pirates outside their territory, but in the context of the BMP itself we see that Big Mom's subordinates who participate more actively in the destruction of other countries and in the practice of atrocities ended up earning greater rewards than others evidently stronger. Pekoms and Tamago have solidly higher rewards than Oven and Daifuku, even though the latter two were absurdly stronger than the former two.

To want to argue that the fact that the BPs are more violent (which directly impacts the inflation of their rewards) is just a conjecture, is basically being counter-intuitive to the BPs' fame and the way Jack himself was introduced in Zou.

if im remember correctly it was said that they both are f ed up (it was 1008 if im not wrong) also it may not impact them offensive wise but it will effect them defensive wise (how much stamina they have how much more they can endure and etc)
also perospero said he would lose to wanda and carrot if moon wasn't covers by clouds but jack destroyed an army of sulong minks witch had several people stronger than wanda and carrot

you can say that same thing is true about beast pirates jack left wano for mission of arresting samurais and momo that are related to oden some thing very important for kaido
we also don't now if king and queen would leave wano like jack or not jack was in charge of business stuff with doffy he wasn't destroying countries left and right

i honestly don't think you can get 500m+ bounty by not leaving your territory and just defending it for me it's not a good excuse
i honestly think that all stars are way stronger than bms sweet commanders (expect kata he was head and shoulder above other in bmp) but bmp has way more executives that some of them are comparable to cracker and smoothie (perospero - snack) and i don't think any of f6 are as strong as them
i personaly think that yc with 1b+ are fairly stronger than yc with bounty below 1b

 

[ShishioIsBack]

If we want to know what would be the bounties from sweet commander if they would be in the kaido crew we need calculation the difference between kaido and big mom bounties (to know this bonus of aggressivity). This bonus is 10.5% (kaido bounty is 10.5 % more than Big mom).

So the sweet commanders bounties would be and their role in the kaido crew :

1) Kata: 1.109.8500.000 berrys
2) Smoothie: 978.600.000 berrys
3) Cracker: 903.000.000 berrys

- King: Big brother and leader from all star
- Queen: Big Brother and all star
- Kata: Big little brother and all star
- Jack: Little brother and all star
- Smoothei and cracker: Between all star and tobbi roppo

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Same as their current bounty

 

[Banchi]

Probably pretty sweet

 

[Rootbeer]

About 300 Million more each..

Katakuri - 1.357 Billion
Smoothie - 1.232 Billion
Cracker - 1.160 Billion

 

[vikas]

BPs are a joke, smoothie alone would take them all under her wing and all of them would do nothing.
Meanwhile Katakuri and Cracker will be holding the reputation.

 

[Finalbeta]

I would love to find out why the Beast Pirates wield such powerful bounties and how much their crew's influence lent an hand for that in comparison to eventual atrocities they committed or level of threat felt out of other reasons.

 

[Cannibal]

if im remember correctly it was said that they both are f ed up (it was 1008 if im not wrong) also it may not impact them offensive wise but it will effect them defensive wise (how much stamina they have how much more they can endure and etc)

Okay, could you estimate to what extent this wear will affect the defensive abilities of Inu, Neko and Jack? The way you put it, it looks like Inu, Neko and Jack are at half their capabilities or less to be a totally unfair comparison between them.

also perospero said he would lose to wanda and carrot if moon wasn't covers by clouds but jack destroyed an army of sulong minks witch had several people stronger than wanda and carrot

Irrelevant in the discussion, as well as misconception. Jack never faced the entire army of sulongs alone, though he was much more damaged than Peros when focused on by a small group of minks.


Anyway, all this doesn't matter until Inu and Neko's fights are shown in parallel for a direct comparison between them.

you can say that same thing is true about beast pirates jack left wano for mission of arresting samurais and momo that are related to oden some thing very important for kaido
we also don't now if king and queen would leave wano like jack or not jack was in charge of business stuff with doffy he wasn't destroying countries left and right

Do not use contrasensos to justify things unfounded. Jack was presented as the calamity of the drought precisely for causing disasters and misfortunes wherever he goes. And we will never see any sweet commander being reckless and stupid to launch an attack on a fleet of ships escorted by two legends and an admiral.

i honestly don't think you can get 500m+ bounty by not leaving your territory and just defending it for me it's not a good excuse
i honestly think that all stars are way stronger than bms sweet commanders (expect kata he was head and shoulder above other in bmp) but bmp has way more executives that some of them are comparable to cracker and smoothie (perospero - snack) and i don't think any of f6 are as strong as them
i personaly think that yc with 1b+ are fairly stronger than yc with bounty below 1b

I repeat what I said, rewards are not given linearly with the individual's strength, as can be seen by comparing the strength and reward relationships between Peros, Sabo and Snack. There are numerous factors that can provide a good boost to your reward and, in the case of calamities, your pirate epithets tell us a lot about the origin of your inflated rewards.

And if you believe that calamities are much stronger than sweets commanders, then I close my participation in this ridiculous discussion. Especially when you forget that before the Doflamingo and his crew were part of the constituent forces of BPs, this force that can not be compensated by a dozen veterans of the BMPs.

 

[Mohammad211]

Okay, could you estimate to what extent this wear will affect the defensive abilities of Inu, Neko and Jack? The way you put it, it looks like Inu, Neko and Jack are at half their capabilities or less to be a totally unfair comparison between them.


Irrelevant in the discussion, as well as misconception. Jack never faced the entire army of sulongs alone, though he was much more damaged than Peros when focused on by a small group of minks.


Anyway, all this doesn't matter until Inu and Neko's fights are shown in parallel for a direct comparison between them.


Do not use contrasensos to justify things unfounded. Jack was presented as the calamity of the drought precisely for causing disasters and misfortunes wherever he goes. And we will never see any sweet commander being reckless and stupid to launch an attack on a fleet of ships escorted by two legends and an admiral.



I repeat what I said, rewards are not given linearly with the individual's strength, as can be seen by comparing the strength and reward relationships between Peros, Sabo and Snack. There are numerous factors that can provide a good boost to your reward and, in the case of calamities, your pirate epithets tell us a lot about the origin of your inflated rewards.

And if you believe that calamities are much stronger than sweets commanders, then I close my participation in this ridiculous discussion. Especially when you forget that before the Doflamingo and his crew were part of the constituent forces of BPs, this force that can not be compensated by a dozen veterans of the BMPs.

if you think of them like game character they are f ed up and have some what between 10-20 percent (with assumption that it didn't have any other effect on them) of they're full hp with full hp it will take at lest 1 day of fight to see the winner (they are fairly durable and can endure alot more damage if they're fine)

go check it again sulong mink destroyed all soldier expect jack even title of chapter is a lone force he did defeat a decent chunk of them and some of them are fairly stronger than like of wanda and carrot

wg won't give bounty to stupidity and recklessness if it was the case he would get another bounty increase because of that

yep Bounties aren't only base on strength alone but i personally think that stablished pirates base on their strength are in different but i don't think for people with 500m+ bounty factors like violence have that much effect in because almost all veteran pirates with bounty of 500m+ have done this type of stuff more or less honestly i don't think there is that much of difference between bmp and bp both are pretty violence and dangerous honestly amount of harm that bmp will cause for each tea party is insane

i think influence of other factor on BMP and BP executives bounty like being a top executive in a yonko crew/empire and in charge of a big army their knowledge and influence is way bigger than violence probably none of them would get bounty
probably none of them would come even close to 1B mark (maybe at beast they would get 800/900m) if they didn't have this things it seems they are more renown because of being subordinate of BM and Kaido rather than being famous individually


and yes i think all allstars are fairly stronger than smoothie and cracker (kata and king for me are very close but i have kata above king and for me queen is a little weaker than them and jack isn't that far behind them he is weaker but not that much) for me cracker and smoothie are in bottom of commanders in term of strength alongside ace, perospero and snack
basically for me 3 all stars = 3 SC + perospro and snack

i didn't forget doffy supposed to be an allie of bp but oda changed his plane so it dosen't matter he probably add bm in this arc as allie in exchange of doffy (im not comparing their power)

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I’d boost each of their bountys around 200 million.