Controversial Whats a popular theory you never agreed with?

#41
Thing is, noone (or very few) said that Zoro would 1v1 Kaido and kill him; most people (including myself) though that Zoro would be the finisher after a group fight.
Somehow the crazies of WG transformed it into ''Zoro solos Kaido'' which was never in the theory in itself.
I wonder if all those who disagreed even read all the ''forshadowing'' and direct quotes from the manga...
It was not a theory out of thin air.
If the argument really was that Zoro would kill him after a group fight, then I have no qualms about that. It's a solid theory in fact.
I wasn't on any One Piece forums back when that theory was popular so I always thought it meant that Zoro would beat Kaido solo.
 
#42
Thing is, noone (or very few) said that Zoro would 1v1 Kaido and kill him; most people (including myself) thought that Zoro would be the finisher after a group fight.
Somehow the crazies of WG transformed it into ''Zoro solos Kaido'' which was never in the theory in itself.
I wonder if all those who disagreed even read all the ''forshadowing'' and direct quotes from the manga...
It was not a theory out of thin air.
It definitely had backing but the majority of the good foreshadowing got overshadowed with some of the stupid evidence and takes such as:
“Zoro sat on a tombstone”
“Zoro ate from a dragon ramen bowl”
“Luffy vs Big Mom and Zoro vs Kaido”
“Kaido will get up after Luffy fails to beat him then Zoro will kill him.”
 
#43
You're free to think that
Explain to me how Kaido, who does not have regen or immortality, could survive getting his throat slit?

Its not me "thinking" that if Zoros attack landed on his throat Kaido would die, it is what would factually happen.

I am not arguing Zoro could one shot Kaido or anything, just that if the EXACT same situation as canon happened and Zoro just happened to land his attack a couple inches higher he WOULD kill Kaido, thus debunking the idea Zoro COULDN'T kill him whatsoever.

Thats all.
 
#45
Not sure if this classifies as a theory but the take:
“Oda is adding Jinbe to the Monster Trio” was a weirdly popular take that I’m glad got debunked
 

Yoho

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#46
Explain to me how Kaido, who does not have regen or immortality, could survive getting his throat slit?

Its not me "thinking" that if Zoros attack landed on his throat Kaido would die, it is what would factually happen.

I am not arguing Zoro could one shot Kaido or anything, just that if the EXACT same situation as canon happened and Zoro just happened to land his attack a couple inches higher he WOULD kill Kaido, thus debunking the idea Zoro COULDN'T kill him whatsoever.

Thats all.
Hypothetically if all the cards where laid out perfectly he could potentially kill Kaido, but Kaido is to powerful for that 1 in 1000 chance
 

Yoho

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#47
Not sure if this classifies as a theory but the take:
“Oda is adding Jinbe to the Monster Trio” was a weirdly popular take that I’m glad got debunked
I've always been of the opinion that Luffy is now in a league of his own with Zoro, Sanji and Jinbe being his monster trio
 
#48
I've always been of the opinion that Luffy is now in a league of his own with Zoro, Sanji and Jinbe being his monster trio
Jinbe isn’t in there, Oda showed that when it’s war time, Jinbes opponent will be on the par with the Mid Trio.

The crew isn’t going to look at Jinbe like a Monster trio member it’ll always be Luffy, Zoro, Sanji. Even Oda making them the PK and his wings. Jinbe doesn’t have any space here
 
#49
Jinbe isn’t in there, Oda showed that when it’s war time, Jinbes opponent will be on the par with the Mid Trio.

The crew isn’t going to look at Jinbe like a Monster trio member it’ll always be Luffy, Zoro, Sanji. Even Oda making them the PK and his wings. Jinbe doesn’t have any space here
I respect Oda for letting Inuarashi get his clap back against Jack but Jinbe should have fought Jack tbh
 
#50
I respect Oda for letting Inuarashi get his clap back against Jack but Jinbe should have fought Jack tbh
Eh I think this was just how Oda wanted to establish Jinbes strength in the crew, he’s not going to get any power ups instead he’ll just get access to water for his next fight like on a seashore.

It establishes Jinbes power and simultaneously shows progression without having to convolute power ups for a NW veteran. While keeping him with Franky and Robin who’ll be getting power ups to continue fighting people on the level of Jinbes opponents.
 

Jiihad

Survivors Guilt
#51
ZKK if we being kompletely honest, it had reasonable and entirely plausible research and shit. But it was NEVER goin to happen, Oda will NEVER have one of his MC commit murda on panel
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#54
Kaido is one of the CQC kings of the verse
Right now only Mihawk has a chance of besting him in combat (out of the people alive, I mean)
And possibly a Gorosei member like Warcury, Nusjuro or Garling but I'm not sure about that, I need to see how they and Imu actually fight first
Zoro's CQC never changes and it is supreme since East Blue.
Alright, not East Blue but since Demon God is a thing.
So, Enies Lobby onwards, Zoro is the King of the CQC game.

And the portrayal couldn't be more clear.
Zoro and Kaido faced off 3 times, each time Kaido had a different form.
Zoro bested base, dragon and hybrid.
 
#55
Zoro's CQC never changes and it is supreme since East Blue.
Alright, not East Blue but since Demon God is a thing.
So, Enies Lobby onwards, Zoro is the King of the CQC game.

And the portrayal couldn't be more clear.
Zoro and Kaido faced off 3 times, each time Kaido had a different form.
Zoro bested base, dragon and hybrid.
If Kaido was serious, Zoro wouldn't have been able to hit him. Not in his current state. He'll be able to hold his own against Kaido for a long time when he fights Shiryu (or once Elbaf ends)
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#57
If Kaido was serious, Zoro wouldn't have been able to hit him. Not in his current state. He'll be able to hold his own against Kaido for a long time when he fights Shiryu (or once Elbaf ends)
You don't get it...
You are trying to force Zoro through Luffy's patterns...
The goal is not to hold his own for a long time against Kaido. That's the worst plan one can have.
And Zoro said this on the rooftop.

The goal is to beat Kaido. If you plan to dance with Kaido for hours, you are dead meat.
At no point was Kaido able to show anything that would prevent Zoro from besting him.
Also, if aCoC allowed Luffy to hold his own vs Kaido, guess what aCoC allowed Zoro to do...
The only difference is that Zoro is far better than Luffy, before aCoC or after.
 
#58
I don't think you can say "popular", but:

Shanks having some kind of special Power/fruit that somehow changes completely his fighting style.
We all know who pushes this theory and why, lol
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You don't get it...
You are trying to force Zoro through Luffy's patterns...
The goal is not to hold his own for a long time against Kaido. That's the worst plan one can have.
And Zoro said this on the rooftop.

The goal is to beat Kaido. If you plan to dance with Kaido for hours, you are dead meat.
At no point was Kaido able to show anything that would prevent Zoro from besting him.
Also, if aCoC allowed Luffy to hold his own vs Kaido, guess what aCoC allowed Zoro to do...
The only difference is that Zoro is far better than Luffy, before aCoC or after.
If Kaido was completely focused and used FS along with drunk modes how can current Zoro tag him, let alone beat him?
 
#60
😭 the fact Crocodile is Luffys mom theory is still going strong baffles me
i can totally understand how people get to "crocodile is secretly a woman" but never understood the luffys mom leap. thats just nonsense
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ZKK if we being kompletely honest, it had reasonable and entirely plausible research and shit. But it was NEVER goin to happen, Oda will NEVER have one of his MC commit murda on panel
zoro kills a guy on panel in the beginning of wano lol. 斬り is killing someone with a sword. zoro's crime as listed in the manga is killing the magistrate.


this guy, and a lot of other people Zoro cuts in the manga, are dead. There's only one scene where Nami tells him not to kill people specifically and he agrees and uses the back of his swords.
 
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