Questions & Mysteries When will Zoro use KoH

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#82
This point is already taken care of by the fact that most of the fight was off-screened.
One chapter after Zoro was in "KoH state", we see him use two swords... which was how he faced Lucci all the way until the finisher, where he pulls the third sword from the scabbard and catches the one in the air.

The fight being offscreened, doesnt mean you jump to random conclusions about Zoro using things that he never used. Lucci never faced KoH, y'all just claimed he did cuz Oda drew that one panel where they both exchanged dialogue.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
#84
Zoro was in KoH state against Lucci, he just never threw an attack so we never saw him use an actual KoH attack, if he used a named attack you would more than likely see lightning streaks in that state. Same deal against King, he wasn't constantly leaking haki, that state is a primer for KoH based attacks. Don't know what happened off panel for him to deactivate.
So, you are trying to say Zoro used KoH in the beginning and failed to put down Lucci but then at the end non KoH zoro knocked the hell out of him? Does this make any sense?
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#85
"KoH state" just sounds like some excuse at this point tbh 😂

The only thing thats present in the canon manga, is KoH 1/2/3 sword style techniques, none of which has been used in Egghead at all.
Nah it's the exact same thing he used against King. I'm not gonna lie to myself and make up these weird exceptions.

He just never threw an actual attack at Lucci on panel. There's multiple panels against King where there's no adCoC streaks, doesn't mean he wasn't using the prerequisite for KoH attacks. Until we see him use a KoH attack outside of that distinct state, I'm just gonna call it KoH state for simplicity sake. Two things can be true, he didn't use an attack but he was also in the state required for a KoH attack.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
#87
One chapter after Zoro was in "KoH state", we see him use two swords... which was how he faced Lucci all the way until the finisher, where he pulls the third sword from the scabbard and catches the one in the air.

The fight being offscreened, doesnt mean you jump to random conclusions about Zoro using things that he never used. Lucci never faced KoH, y'all just claimed he did cuz Oda drew that one panel where they both exchanged dialogue.
Welcome back conqui
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
#89
He did use it yes

Tell me how green flames and hark leaking from bis swords is t KoH

When has Zoro used that without KoH mode
No my question to you is


If zoro used his strongest form in the beginning as per you guys and still fails to put down lucci then how zoro without KoH knocked lucci out at the end? Does this make any sense from narrative point of view?

Why zoro will use his strongest form first and then oda will draw him not using Koh to beat Lucci?
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#90
Nah it's the exact same thing he used against King. I'm not gonna lie to myself and make up these weird exceptions.
You dont need to.

He used that ryou smoke thingy in one exchange. ONE. The next chapter, he's facing Lucci without the Wado in his mouth as Saturn lands & Luffy/Kizaru/Zoro/Lucci react mid exchange.

KoH attacks had both CoC, that smoke and were explicitly called "King of Hell Santoryu".

The way this sounds to me, is you guys just making up some fictional "KoH state" and then gifting feats to Lucci that he doesnt deserve.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#92
You dont need to.

He used that ryou smoke thingy in one exchange. ONE. The next chapter, he's facing Lucci without the Wado in his mouth as Saturn lands & Luffy/Kizaru/Zoro/Lucci react mid exchange.

KoH attacks had both CoC, that smoke and were explicitly called "King of Hell Santoryu".

The way this sounds to me, is you guys just making up some fictional "KoH state" and then gifting feats to Lucci that he doesnt deserve.

What Zoro had activated against Lucci was the exact same thing you see in the top and middle panels, when he goes to use an actual attack you see the streaks come out.

The minute Zoro shows a KoH attack without the aura around his blades I'll agree with your take, until then I'm not budging, there's no reason for me to believe anything else atm. The haki aura is a prerequisite to a KoH attack.
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So, he activated it but didn't use it right?

What happens off the panel is realm of speculation. I can argue the same - if Lucci can't take Non Koh Zoro then there is no way he can tank Koh zoro
Doubt he tanked any attack let alone KoH. Both of them didn't have any significant injuries.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#94
What Zoro had activated against Lucci was the exact same thing you see in top and middle panels, when he goes to use an actual attack you see the streaks come out.
Thats what I'm saying. Nobody ever called that state as "KoH".

And in your own panel, Zoro clearly calls out when he actually used a KoH Onigiri.

Against King, KoH was used & against Lucci it wasnt. Gifting consolation prizes to Lucci for having one exchange & a dialogue with "KoH state" or "precursor to KoH attacks" isnt really my style.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#98
Thats what I'm saying. Nobody ever called that state as "KoH".

And in your own panel, Zoro clearly calls out when he actually used a KoH Onigiri.

Against King, KoH was used & against Lucci it wasnt. Gifting consolation prizes to Lucci for having one exchange & a dialogue with "KoH state" or precursor to KoH attacks isnt really my style.
Gotta call that aura state something. I'm not calling it haki overflow state to avoid hurting Zoro fan feelings 😂. KoH state is the most suitable since it is an absolute necessity in using a KoH attack. Until he shows a KoH attack outside of that state I'm gonna stick to calling it KoH state, it's just easier.

I agree he never used a KoH attack, that's obvious.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Gotta call that aura state something. I'm not calling it haki overflow state to avoid hurting Zoro fan feelings 😂. KoH state is the most suitable since it is an absolute necessity in using a KoH attack. Until he shows a KoH attack outside of that state I'm gonna stick to calling it KoH state, it's just easier.

I agree he never used a KoH attack, that's obvious.
You can call it anything that you want to as long as the person you're debating with is clear about what you're referring to.

It's both easier to call that smoke as "KoH state" and more importantly, good for the Lucci agenda to do so 😂. As i said, consolation prizes.
 
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