Who are the 5 strongest characters of ASOIAF?
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Point is his era really didn't had that many famed warriors to begin with to even contest how good he was.
Daemon > Cole and cregan Stark was always there , One of the strongest swordsman Aemon dragon knight. He himself said he was one of the finest he ever met.
And Daemon lost due to not focussing properly in the end with cole. Also winning in jousting really doesn't mean you would win in Real fight.
He's stronger than Harwin though.
Daemon > Cole and cregan Stark was always there , One of the strongest swordsman Aemon dragon knight. He himself said he was one of the finest he ever met.
And Daemon lost due to not focussing properly in the end with cole. Also winning in jousting really doesn't mean you would win in Real fight.
He's stronger than Harwin though.
Prime for prime, I would give it to Cregan Stark over Cole (due to the crazy hype he received from the Dragonknight later in the years).
But Daemon ain't equal to Cole in a sword duel. And Harwin was considered to be the physically strongest man in his days, nicknamed "Breakbones". Imagine kicking his ass so badly that blud gets renamed "Broken bones".
Nah Cole was the real deal, lol. Few have ever gotten his level of hype.
But Daemon ain't equal to Cole in a sword duel. And Harwin was considered to be the physically strongest man in his days, nicknamed "Breakbones". Imagine kicking his ass so badly that blud gets renamed "Broken bones".
Nah Cole was the real deal, lol. Few have ever gotten his level of hype.
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Thats just the shows invention. In the book it's never implied Cole used any dirty trick to win the melee. Daemon was still someone described as a renowned warrior who got knighted at the age of 16 and was wielding valyrian steel blade. Defeating him should be considered a big deal.
Not to mention, book Criston actually rose to the position of Lord Commander thanks to his own skills when Viserys was still alive and not due to political support for the greens like in the show.
HOTD really did him dirty.
Not to mention, book Criston actually rose to the position of Lord Commander thanks to his own skills when Viserys was still alive and not due to political support for the greens like in the show.
HOTD really did him dirty.
I won't say that.
The fact we hate him (a black supporter).
He did a pretty good job.
People went as far as to give him death threats on social media. Not saying that's correct but the amount of depth and character criston cole had.
It's like akainu situation.
He definitely ain't a bad character but people hate him so much for Ace and Whitebeard moment.
These kind of characters who are antagonist to begin with , if they are hated , they did a pretty good job. Also his conversation with alicent brother was also good cinematogrpahy. A silent paced conversation of realisation.
Rest he really wasn't gonna do much fighting wise. There are dragons fighting here. He said it himself.
For the glory part yea , they did him dirty. He was shown to be nowhere near the level of Daemon/Cregan. Which wasn't right. But they know what brings in money at the end of the day.
Even the strongest fighters of westoereos were done dirty in game throne. Let that be arthur dayne , barristan of jamie. TV shows do whatever they do like.
The fact we hate him (a black supporter).
He did a pretty good job.
People went as far as to give him death threats on social media. Not saying that's correct but the amount of depth and character criston cole had.
It's like akainu situation.
He definitely ain't a bad character but people hate him so much for Ace and Whitebeard moment.
These kind of characters who are antagonist to begin with , if they are hated , they did a pretty good job. Also his conversation with alicent brother was also good cinematogrpahy. A silent paced conversation of realisation.
Rest he really wasn't gonna do much fighting wise. There are dragons fighting here. He said it himself.
For the glory part yea , they did him dirty. He was shown to be nowhere near the level of Daemon/Cregan. Which wasn't right. But they know what brings in money at the end of the day.
Even the strongest fighters of westoereos were done dirty in game throne. Let that be arthur dayne , barristan of jamie. TV shows do whatever they do like.
The portrayal of prime Jaime (timeline of Asoiaf) is absurd:
> Considered to be the best fighter in Westeros. Brienne believed no one could have stood against him at the peak of his powers.
> Jaime perfectly knows what Dayne was capable of but still believed that he would beat him. That doesn't necessarily have to be true and I'm sure Arthur would have said the same about him, but it often gets dismissed as being "just arrogance". No, it speaks on the level this man is on (absolute top tier, like Arthur).
> At the battle of the Whispering Woods, after Robb Stark completely outplayed him tactically, Jaime launches an offensive where he cuts through Robb's elite guards and almost gets him.
Give everyone equal weaponry and Jaime vs Arthur or Jaime vs Barristan etc. is a 50/50 imo.
> Considered to be the best fighter in Westeros. Brienne believed no one could have stood against him at the peak of his powers.
> Jaime perfectly knows what Dayne was capable of but still believed that he would beat him. That doesn't necessarily have to be true and I'm sure Arthur would have said the same about him, but it often gets dismissed as being "just arrogance". No, it speaks on the level this man is on (absolute top tier, like Arthur).
> At the battle of the Whispering Woods, after Robb Stark completely outplayed him tactically, Jaime launches an offensive where he cuts through Robb's elite guards and almost gets him.
Give everyone equal weaponry and Jaime vs Arthur or Jaime vs Barristan etc. is a 50/50 imo.
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One of the most monstrous men in the Asoiaf timeline is Greatjon Umber.
> He's described to be as tall as Hodor (7 feets) but twice as large.
> He comes up in Jaime's thoughts when he lists a scant few fighters, all being stronger than him physically, but who he believes could beat anyway. What I took from this is that Umber belongs in a very exclusive club.
> At the Red Wedding he drinks so much wine "to kill three men", he's utterly drunk and yet EIGHT men are needed to restrict him. In his state he had literally taken the sword of the first man to attack him, killed one, wounded two other and bite off the ear of Sir Leslyn Haigh.
Man is a freak amongst freaks lol.
> He's described to be as tall as Hodor (7 feets) but twice as large.
> He comes up in Jaime's thoughts when he lists a scant few fighters, all being stronger than him physically, but who he believes could beat anyway. What I took from this is that Umber belongs in a very exclusive club.
> At the Red Wedding he drinks so much wine "to kill three men", he's utterly drunk and yet EIGHT men are needed to restrict him. In his state he had literally taken the sword of the first man to attack him, killed one, wounded two other and bite off the ear of Sir Leslyn Haigh.
Man is a freak amongst freaks lol.
I think these nicks are what they are, we also have "Demon of the Trident" for example. Daemon for sure made a huge impression though.
That feat of defeating a member of the Kingsguard also fighting with a Valyrian blade, after 1h fight, it's really impressive. He was also the youngest to ever be knighted and could master all weapons. Definitely a legendary fighter lol.
That feat of defeating a member of the Kingsguard also fighting with a Valyrian blade, after 1h fight, it's really impressive. He was also the youngest to ever be knighted and could master all weapons. Definitely a legendary fighter lol.
Idk man, I'd have to check how long after the fact did the story get written down by the F&B maester.
I'm not downplaying their duel, just for the record. All I'm saying is that one hour is too unrealistic and probably an embelishment that was not supposed to be taken seriously but grew in the telling. Kinda like saying "I've been wqiting for you for an hour" while you've been there a few minutes but it felt really long.
And soldiers and followers like to prop up their leaders so if the fight was hard fought making it into a one hour duel makes your guy an even bigger legend for winning.
I'm not downplaying their duel, just for the record. All I'm saying is that one hour is too unrealistic and probably an embelishment that was not supposed to be taken seriously but grew in the telling. Kinda like saying "I've been wqiting for you for an hour" while you've been there a few minutes but it felt really long.
And soldiers and followers like to prop up their leaders so if the fight was hard fought making it into a one hour duel makes your guy an even bigger legend for winning.
