Who are the 5 strongest characters of ASOIAF?

#83
Poisonous coward.
He also was planning on killing the mountain and had prepared his weapon and fighting style pretty intelligently but if they ran into each other randomly on a battlefield i believe the Mountain would crush him more times than not.
Oberyn still had him beat and only lost (died) because he focused more on Tywin than Gregor.

But your second point is true - in a chance encounter always bet on Mountainkaido
 
#84
Gerold was a beast indeed.

The one Kingsguard I think is super underrated historically is Ryam Redwyne. Dude was legit one of the best tourney fighters of all time. Nobody fucked with Jahaerys so he never got to show himself in actual combat, but the dude was borderline undefeatable in tournament lol.

I remember when Ryam Redwyne and Corwyn Cobb (?) broke 30 lances against each other before Jahaerys finally ended the joust and declared them both co-champions, calling it “the finest display of jousting in history” lol
True, Ryam was basically the epitome of the knight in ASOIAF.
I hope we'll get someting someday.
 
#85
We should make a list with different era's.

Because this way no way we will be able to fit these many top tier fighters in top 5.
There will always be some counter argument.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#88
Alright so since mofos don’t realize Jahaerys I’s prowess as a fighter, get ready to have your fucking minds blown.

“Oh, Jahaerys was the Concilliator, an old wise man known for his diplomacy and not his martial prowess”

WRONG!!!

You see Fire and Blood establishes Jahaerys I as a truly awe inspiring figure who absolutely was an incredible fighter on the battlefield. He fought in two wars, both against the same Dornishmen who bodied Aegon the Conqueror and his sisters, and Jahaerys utterly humiliated the Dornish both times he warred against them. Go look up the Fourth Dornish War if you want to see the most humiliatingly overwhelming war victory in the history of Westeros, and know that was what Jahaerys was capable of at the height of his kingship.

BUT anyway. Jahaerys as a fighter. A few facts about this guy:

-Jahaerys found out that he was the next in line for the iron throne after Maegor the Cruel when he was like, 12. Jahaerys then proceeded to spend the next five ish years training both his mind and his body to ensure he would be up to the task. As the heir to the Iron Throne, he had multiple Kingsguard at his side at all times. And for hours a day, Jahaerys would proceed to let his Kingsguard knights beat the dogshit out of him in training sessions. This went on for five years straight, and by the end of Jahaerys’s training, one of Jahaerys’s Kingsguard would declare him to literally be a better warrior than Maegor the Cruel, a 6 foot five monster of a man who wielded Blackfire.

-Jahaerys would first see actual combat on the battlefield in his late 20s, when he won the Third Dornish war in humiliating fashion. In the climactic battle of the war, Jahaerys faced and slew a Baratheon male warrior, a traitor to the crown who got excited at the idea of slaying the King himself, in 1v1 combat. This wasn’t “the King killed someone in a tournament” this was a war where Jahaerys literally bested a prime Baratheon male warrior in 1v1 combat by almost beheading him during a literal war. I rest my case.

-When Jahaerys was in his 50s, a 17 year old knight had sex with one of his daughters. Jaehaerys regained her honor by challenging the knight to a 1v1 duel and killing him.

So yeah, Jaehaerys was a straight up incredible warrior. Said to be a better fighter than Maegor the cruel, bested a “purebred (not bastard)” Baratheon male 1v1, and killed a 17 year old knight when he was an old man.

The only thing you can say poorly about Jahaerys is that he, like Aegon the Conqueror, basically never fought himself, but on the occasion that he actually did fight, he was awe inspiring and he had insane portrayal as a warrior.

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#89
One thing I kinda wonder...

Does Ned have a tiny bit of a mysterious/sometimes-wondered-on reputation as a warrior on the eyes of a part of the seven kingdoms?

In the first book, some servants on the castle were talking about how the young lord (Ned) had slain Arthur Dayne in single combat. Now, Ned was never one to flaunt about deeds that he didn't do, or exaggerate them etc. In fact we never read about again on someone speculating on Ned's prowess. But the tower of Joy happened, the greatest knight of Westeros was killed there, and the details of how it went down might not be accurate to many of the "public". And obviously such things can happen without a killer of a great knight have been a fantastic knight himself lol. And yes, many would have seen/told about Ned fighting in the battles of the rebellion.

Ned isn't perceived like all that great fighter in Asoiaf, which is correct. But sometimes... even just for a moment...do you think there was a veil of suspect on this Northermen lord, known for his honor above everything else, that maybe he was really super deadly?

This is probably a non discussion. But yeah, give your thoughts

@Elder Lee Hung @Bullet @NikaInParis @KingOnizam
 
#90
Ned was a decent warrior but i never got the impression people looked at him as a menace or something. If Ned stepped up as your champion against let's say the Mountain, i think most people would just rather go ahead and kill themselves.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#91
One thing I kinda wonder...

Does Ned have a tiny bit of a mysterious/sometimes-wondered-on reputation as a warrior on the eyes of a part of the seven kingdoms?

In the first book, some servants on the castle were talking about how the young lord (Ned) had slain Arthur Dayne in single combat. Now, Ned was never one to flaunt about deeds that he didn't do, or exaggerate them etc. In fact we never read about again on someone speculating on Ned's prowess. But the tower of Joy happened, the greatest knight of Westeros was killed there, and the details of how it went down might not be accurate to many of the "public". And obviously such things can happen without a killer of a great knight have been a fantastic knight himself lol. And yes, many would have seen/told about Ned fighting in the battles of the rebellion.

Ned isn't perceived like all that great fighter in Asoiaf, which is correct. But sometimes... even just for a moment...do you think there was a veil of suspect on this Northermen lord, known for his honor above everything else, that maybe he was really super deadly?

This is probably a non discussion. But yeah, give your thoughts

@Elder Lee Hung @Bullet @NikaInParis @KingOnizam
I think Ned was probably decent, House Stark produced some strong fighters and Ned definitely would have been trained as a fighter but I don’t think he was supposed to be amazing. Probably just a really good fighter lol.
 
#92
Not considering magic powers, dragons, or whatever. So you can't pick characters like Euron, Daenerys, Brynden Rivers, Jaqen H'gar, or any mythical characters of the old times (like Azor Ahai, Bloodstone Emperor, Artys Arryn, and so on)

You can consider any sort of warriors or fighters. Of course you can consider a character like Daemon Targaryen (but obviously not his Dragon).





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Faceless men>>>anyone in the verse.
 
#93
Ned was a decent warrior but i never got the impression people looked at him as a menace or something. If Ned stepped up as your champion against let's say the Mountain, i think most people would just rather go ahead and kill themselves.
I think Ned was probably decent, House Stark produced some strong fighters and Ned definitely would have been trained as a fighter but I don’t think he was supposed to be amazing. Probably just a really good fighter lol.
Yeah yeah, I was just talking about reputation.
 
#94
Faceless men>>>anyone in the verse.
Faceless men doesnt count. But they arent the peak of the verse. They just make sneaky moves
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But considering magic powers, dragons and whatever I think the ranking would be something like:

S tier: Azor Ahai/Bloodstone Emperor/Night's King (the 13th commander of Night's watch)

A tier: Dragon's riders/EOS Euron???/EOS Jon Snow???/EOS Bran???/Brynden Rivers???
 
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#95
Faceless men doesnt count. But they arent the peak of the verse. They just make sneaky moves
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But considering magic powers, dragons and whatever I think the ranking would be something like:

S tier: Azor Ahai/Bloodstone Emperor/Night's King (the 13th commander of Night's watch)

A tier: Dragon's riders/EOS Euron???/EOS Jon Snow???/EOS Bran???/Brynden Rivers???
yeah,they are killers,not duelists. I get that. I believe a faceless men could kill a Dragon. Daniel(from the bible) supposedly killed a dragon by feeding it a poisoned goat. I bought into the faceless men hype. I believe they can assassinate anyone.
 
#96
One thing I kinda wonder...

Does Ned have a tiny bit of a mysterious/sometimes-wondered-on reputation as a warrior on the eyes of a part of the seven kingdoms?

In the first book, some servants on the castle were talking about how the young lord (Ned) had slain Arthur Dayne in single combat. Now, Ned was never one to flaunt about deeds that he didn't do, or exaggerate them etc. In fact we never read about again on someone speculating on Ned's prowess. But the tower of Joy happened, the greatest knight of Westeros was killed there, and the details of how it went down might not be accurate to many of the "public". And obviously such things can happen without a killer of a great knight have been a fantastic knight himself lol. And yes, many would have seen/told about Ned fighting in the battles of the rebellion.

Ned isn't perceived like all that great fighter in Asoiaf, which is correct. But sometimes... even just for a moment...do you think there was a veil of suspect on this Northermen lord, known for his honor above everything else, that maybe he was really super deadly?

This is probably a non discussion. But yeah, give your thoughts

@Elder Lee Hung @Bullet @NikaInParis @KingOnizam
He should be a complete unknown in terms of martial skill to some of them, but he fought in the war, so it's possible people saw his limitations and how good he really was. I think the fact that it was a three-vs-seven confrontation was public knowledge(?), and Ned himself tries to downplay that accomplishment would put a damper on Ned being viewed as a secret god in martial combat

It would've been interesting to see Jaime's views on how he feels about his idol being killed by Eddard Stark, though.
 
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