Current Events Who gave the order to the Seraphim?

[Rambles]

Well consider this a deal then.

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[Rambles]

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I don't doubt it.

 

[Paperchampion23]

This is why none of the Vegapunks are the traitor - it's Stussy.

Its not her either lol....

 

[Rambles]

Its not her either lol....

Why do you think so?

 

[Hako Sama]

Why do you think so?

Why would you try to Kill the same ppl that you "saved" from CP0.
The "traitor" was inside of the lab all the time, while Stussy was out side of it.
She's with the Sanji group while the "Traitor" is destroying those Camekos.

I mean, It can't be her.

 

[HA001]

Viz makes it sound like the vegapunks fkd up the design of the Seraphim and they are just adapting and acting on their own

 

[Paperchampion23]

Why do you think so?

Because shes literally with Sanji's group when the sillhouette is shown. She's also throwing a question mark reaction when the shields went down.

Its literally not here, and it makes even far less sense for her to be a triple agent immediately after betraying Lucci and Kaku

 

[Rambles]

Why would you try to Kill the same ppl that you "saved" from CP0.
The "traitor" was inside of the lab all the time, while Stussy was out side of it.
She's with the Sanji group while the "Traitor" is destroying those Camekos.

I mean, It can't be her.

Because she is a double agent and still with the WG.
We do not know if the traitor was outside of the Labo or inside. Fact is, she was - shortly before the shield went down - out of earshot of Lucci and Kaku and had a call with Vegapunk. Both CP0 agents didn't notice her speaking with Vegapunk at least. That means there is a short timespan in which she was unobserved by anyone. Isn't it strange?
Because Stussy is using holograms. She is projecting them to walk with the group and secretly destroying the cameras herself.

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Because shes literally with Sanji's group when the sillhouette is shown. She's also throwing a question mark reaction when the shields went down.

Its literally not here, and it makes even far less sense for her to be a triple agent immediately after betraying Lucci and Kaku

The questionmark doesn't have to be her questioning why the shield went down, It could also be a questionmark of her questioning if Lucci is going to give the ok to advance. She doesn't looka t him, but she doesn't have to. She is undercover.

A hologram could have a shadow as well.

She was betraying Kaku and Lucci. But she is with the WG still, because Lucci is not anymore with the WG - and the reason is probably Shaka - his twin-like counterpart. That guy is going to play a major role soon. I strongly assume they are related somehow and this is why Lucci questions the mission from the beginning.

 

[DarkWitch]

@Rambles
It's not Stussy, not too sure why you really want it to be Stussy and everything you are saying makes no sense and it feels forced.

It reminds me of when some people kept saying that Carrot was the traitor back during Wano, when it made no sense for her to be the traitor yet some people kept insisting it was her.

Stussy is not loyal to the WG, look back at Vegapunk's note when he created Stussy. It's obvious Stussy was raised by Vegapunk when she was young before she joined the WG, she probably views Vegapunk like a father figure.

Stussy was also confirmed to be spy for Vegapunk, so she would tell Vegapunk anything that the WG knew. In fact the main reason Vegapunk probably knew that the WG was planning to kill him was because Stussy told him, if Stussy was actually loyal towards the WG then she wouldn't have done that.

In fact she wouldn't have taken out Lucci and Kaku either, also she was with Lucci and Kaku when the dome went down. We actually see her with Lucci and Kaku when that happened.

Also she is currently with Sanji and Jinbe, so she is not the person taking out the Den Den Mushi and finally she can't control the Seraphim.

Remember that Stussy has a lower authority level than the Vegapunks and the Five Elders, if she was the one that ordered the Seraphim then the Vegapunks would have been able to stop the Seraphim.

Lastly Oda already pulled a traitor for Stussy, so I highly doubt he would do it a second time for her character again.

The only reason why a few people I've seen say it's Stussy is because they think it would be cool, all the evidence is against Stussy being the traitor not pointing her as the traitor.

The traitor at the end is either going to be one of the Satellites, Vegapunk himself, maybe Punk Records, maybe a 7th Satellite, or none of them and it's actually Saturn on the island.

 

[Geo]

From the viz translation, it is looking like the Seraphim overrode the orders on their own.

 

[Rambles]

@Rambles
It's not Stussy, not too sure why you really want it to be Stussy and everything you are saying makes no sense and it feels forced.

It reminds me of when some people kept saying that Carrot was the traitor back during Wano, when it made no sense for her to be the traitor yet some people kept insisting it was her.

Stussy is not loyal to the WG, look back at Vegapunk's note when he created Stussy. It's obvious Stussy was raised by Vegapunk when she was young before she joined the WG, she probably views Vegapunk like a father figure.

Stussy was also confirmed to be spy for Vegapunk, so she would tell Vegapunk anything that the WG knew. In fact the main reason Vegapunk probably knew that the WG was planning to kill him was because Stussy told him, if Stussy was actually loyal towards the WG then she wouldn't have done that.

In fact she wouldn't have taken out Lucci and Kaku either, also she was with Lucci and Kaku when the dome went down. We actually see her with Lucci and Kaku when that happened.

Also she is currently with Sanji and Jinbe, so she is not the person taking out the Den Den Mushi and finally she can't control the Seraphim.

Remember that Stussy has a lower authority level than the Vegapunks and the Five Elders, if she was the one that ordered the Seraphim then the Vegapunks would have been able to stop the Seraphim.

Lastly Oda already pulled a traitor for Stussy, so I highly doubt he would do it a second time for her character again.

The only reason why a few people I've seen say it's Stussy is because they think it would be cool, all the evidence is against Stussy being the traitor not pointing her as the traitor.

The traitor at the end is either going to be one of the Satellites, Vegapunk himself, maybe Punk Records, maybe a 7th Satellite, or none of them and it's actually Saturn on the island.

I strongly believe it is her - otherwise I would not insist upon it.

But we have other views about the situation - I do not want to force you to believe me. So, if it sounds forced to you, then it is time I stop insiting. You know my view now anyways and it would otherwise only make you shake your heads about my opinion - I don't want that.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Any of Stussys commands would’ve been overridden by Shaka this chapter. It literally can’t be her.

Only option is, they’re just following Edison’s original order to stop fighting by killing those who make them fight, or it’s Stella.