Character Discussion Who is a better character? Nami or Vinsmoke Sanji?
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No just *drawing" for the fun , the poneglyphs alone won't automatically give you the destination. We see it in Roger flashback. Even after getting all the road poneglyph they needed several daysto figure out the location. (as they got their last road in Zou and only finished finding the location in another island).
Tbe difference between you and me is that I read the series and ain't clouded by my bias
I know, it's my last reply anyway
Tbe difference between you and me is that I read the series and ain't clouded by my bias
I know, it's my last reply anyway
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I was Nami's fan, but after Wano it is over.
Unlike Sanji she didn't have character development. Her fights skipped in manga, also instead of normal power up she gets only asspull power. No observation haki no any other. She was important before time skip, but now we learn that Bartolomeo didn't need any normal navigator to travel New World.
So Sanji is obviosly better in everything
Unlike Sanji she didn't have character development. Her fights skipped in manga, also instead of normal power up she gets only asspull power. No observation haki no any other. She was important before time skip, but now we learn that Bartolomeo didn't need any normal navigator to travel New World.
So Sanji is obviosly better in everything
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TL; DR: Sanji with a slight edge. Nami seemed to be more important pre-TS, Sanji has always been important.
I used to love Nami, and I actually enjoyed her "smart fighting" vs Kalifa. I liked her on Punk Hazard when she was all about saving those children, and she was kinda cool on WCI, remember Luffy & Nami tag team against Cracker? I typically didn't mind her being a part of "weakling trio", because she still contributed when it counted. And then Wano... Wano really ruined a lot of One Piece to me, and I hated how Oda handled Nami in that arc. Sure, she had her amazing moment when she couldn't betray Luffy and said that he'd be Pirate King even knowing that she might die, but for the most part I couldn't bring myself to like Nami as much as I used to. I still think she's a solid character, but I wish Oda gave her more love, she deserves it.
Now Sanji is my favourite SH, so ofc I'm biased here, I used to love Sanji before TS, I like his smarts and unique fighting style, I also liked that bit of mystery surrounding him. And while I'm not entirely happy with how Oda handled Sanji post-TS (the nosebleeds, the cake and "Save me, Robin", all left a bad taste in my mouth) I'd say Sanji still has a lot of cool moments, makes me laugh and I'm genuinely interested in what comes next for him.
I used to love Nami, and I actually enjoyed her "smart fighting" vs Kalifa. I liked her on Punk Hazard when she was all about saving those children, and she was kinda cool on WCI, remember Luffy & Nami tag team against Cracker? I typically didn't mind her being a part of "weakling trio", because she still contributed when it counted. And then Wano... Wano really ruined a lot of One Piece to me, and I hated how Oda handled Nami in that arc. Sure, she had her amazing moment when she couldn't betray Luffy and said that he'd be Pirate King even knowing that she might die, but for the most part I couldn't bring myself to like Nami as much as I used to. I still think she's a solid character, but I wish Oda gave her more love, she deserves it.
Now Sanji is my favourite SH, so ofc I'm biased here, I used to love Sanji before TS, I like his smarts and unique fighting style, I also liked that bit of mystery surrounding him. And while I'm not entirely happy with how Oda handled Sanji post-TS (the nosebleeds, the cake and "Save me, Robin", all left a bad taste in my mouth) I'd say Sanji still has a lot of cool moments, makes me laugh and I'm genuinely interested in what comes next for him.
I willl just make a post about it Nami was best character of wano...
false. She had many amazing character moment and it was much better than Sanji one.
Sanji whole character arc was cringe.
Her fight was third highest in panel time after Kaido vs Luffy and Zoro vs King. Almost as much panel time as Queen vs Sanji.
These are bigger asspull than Nami getting Zeus -
Sanji getting blue flame and exoskeleton
Zoro getting magical sword and AdvCOC
Robin getting new form.
Nami power up got four years build up. Zeus even get his own character arc. You can't call it asspull power up.
You just want her to become boring and bland character. Whole one piece is filled with these characters who are there just to look cool and badass.
Powerscalers are ruining one piece. They can only see worth in character if they are stronger. Hope Nami never gets observation or armental haki.
Oda already hinted at COC , so it's cool.
The whole reason was to show that Luffy needs Nami to survive in sea. Of course people will take it in wrong way.
Of course it was much better to kill them to show , how much navigation is needed but it's shounen.
Only people who say that Navigation has not been important in Post-timeskip are people who don't read manga they just follow one piece..
1/3 of whole cake arc is Nami navigating against big mom and Big mom pirates.
In dressrosa arc , they manage to escape big mom pirates because of Nami skills
It took Nami one day to reach Zou from dressrosa.
It took Luffy and others 10 days to reach Zou from dressrosa.
It took Big mom pirates 8 days to reach Zou from dressrosa.
Conclusion- Nami is 8 times faster than normal navigator...
Not even as relevant as Nami.
One piece panel time till ch 1067
false. She had many amazing character moment and it was much better than Sanji one.
Sanji whole character arc was cringe.
These are bigger asspull than Nami getting Zeus -
Sanji getting blue flame and exoskeleton
Zoro getting magical sword and AdvCOC
Robin getting new form.
Nami power up got four years build up. Zeus even get his own character arc. You can't call it asspull power up.
Powerscalers are ruining one piece. They can only see worth in character if they are stronger. Hope Nami never gets observation or armental haki.
Oda already hinted at COC , so it's cool.
The whole reason was to show that Luffy needs Nami to survive in sea. Of course people will take it in wrong way.
Of course it was much better to kill them to show , how much navigation is needed but it's shounen.
1/3 of whole cake arc is Nami navigating against big mom and Big mom pirates.
In dressrosa arc , they manage to escape big mom pirates because of Nami skills
It took Luffy and others 10 days to reach Zou from dressrosa.
It took Big mom pirates 8 days to reach Zou from dressrosa.
Not even as relevant as Nami.
One piece panel time till ch 1067
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I willl just make a post about it Nami was best character of wano...
false. She had many amazing character moment and it was much better than Sanji one.
Sanji whole character arc was cringe.
Her fight was third highest in panel time after Kaido vs Luffy and Zoro vs King. Almost as much panel time as Queen vs Sanji.
These are bigger asspull than Nami getting Zeus -
Sanji getting blue flame and exoskeleton
Zoro getting magical sword and AdvCOC
Robin getting new form.
Nami power up got four years build up. Zeus even get his own character arc. You can't call it asspull power up.
You just want her to become boring and bland character. Whole one piece is filled with these characters who are there just to look cool and badass.
Powerscalers are ruining one piece. They can only see worth in character if they are stronger. Hope Nami never gets observation or armental haki.
Oda already hinted at COC , so it's cool.
The whole reason was to show that Luffy needs Nami to survive in sea. Of course people will take it in wrong way.
Of course it was much better to kill them to show , how much navigation is needed but it's shounen.
Only people who say that Navigation has not been important in Post-timeskip are people who don't read manga they just follow one piece..
1/3 of whole cake arc is Nami navigating against big mom and Big mom pirates.
In dressrosa arc , they manage to escape big mom pirates because of Nami skills
It took Nami one day to reach Zou from dressrosa.
It took Luffy and others 10 days to reach Zou from dressrosa.
It took Big mom pirates 8 days to reach Zou from dressrosa.
Conclusion- Nami is 8 times faster than normal navigator...
Not even as relevant as Nami.
One piece panel time till ch 1067
false. She had many amazing character moment and it was much better than Sanji one.
Sanji whole character arc was cringe.
Her fight was third highest in panel time after Kaido vs Luffy and Zoro vs King. Almost as much panel time as Queen vs Sanji.
These are bigger asspull than Nami getting Zeus -
Sanji getting blue flame and exoskeleton
Zoro getting magical sword and AdvCOC
Robin getting new form.
Nami power up got four years build up. Zeus even get his own character arc. You can't call it asspull power up.
You just want her to become boring and bland character. Whole one piece is filled with these characters who are there just to look cool and badass.
Powerscalers are ruining one piece. They can only see worth in character if they are stronger. Hope Nami never gets observation or armental haki.
Oda already hinted at COC , so it's cool.
The whole reason was to show that Luffy needs Nami to survive in sea. Of course people will take it in wrong way.
Of course it was much better to kill them to show , how much navigation is needed but it's shounen.
Only people who say that Navigation has not been important in Post-timeskip are people who don't read manga they just follow one piece..
1/3 of whole cake arc is Nami navigating against big mom and Big mom pirates.
In dressrosa arc , they manage to escape big mom pirates because of Nami skills
It took Nami one day to reach Zou from dressrosa.
It took Luffy and others 10 days to reach Zou from dressrosa.
It took Big mom pirates 8 days to reach Zou from dressrosa.
Conclusion- Nami is 8 times faster than normal navigator...
Not even as relevant as Nami.
One piece panel time till ch 1067
most underrated Straw Hat post timeskip
has been the best Straw Hat in Egghead as well without any storylines revolving around her. Oda gave great character moments with her badmouthing Caesar to Vegapunk, Oda focusing reveal of Devil Fruits and Sun God Nika on her and the Lucci hate.
Far superior then 80% of the Straw Hats who are currently standing around like background characters at the moment
I willl just make a post about it Nami was best character of wano...
false. She had many amazing character moment and it was much better than Sanji one.
Sanji whole character arc was cringe.
Her fight was third highest in panel time after Kaido vs Luffy and Zoro vs King. Almost as much panel time as Queen vs Sanji.
These are bigger asspull than Nami getting Zeus -
Sanji getting blue flame and exoskeleton
Zoro getting magical sword and AdvCOC
Robin getting new form.
Nami power up got four years build up. Zeus even get his own character arc. You can't call it asspull power up.
You just want her to become boring and bland character. Whole one piece is filled with these characters who are there just to look cool and badass.
Powerscalers are ruining one piece. They can only see worth in character if they are stronger. Hope Nami never gets observation or armental haki.
Oda already hinted at COC , so it's cool.
The whole reason was to show that Luffy needs Nami to survive in sea. Of course people will take it in wrong way.
Of course it was much better to kill them to show , how much navigation is needed but it's shounen.
Only people who say that Navigation has not been important in Post-timeskip are people who don't read manga they just follow one piece..
1/3 of whole cake arc is Nami navigating against big mom and Big mom pirates.
In dressrosa arc , they manage to escape big mom pirates because of Nami skills
It took Nami one day to reach Zou from dressrosa.
It took Luffy and others 10 days to reach Zou from dressrosa.
It took Big mom pirates 8 days to reach Zou from dressrosa.
Conclusion- Nami is 8 times faster than normal navigator...
Not even as relevant as Nami.
One piece panel time till ch 1067
false. She had many amazing character moment and it was much better than Sanji one.
Sanji whole character arc was cringe.
Her fight was third highest in panel time after Kaido vs Luffy and Zoro vs King. Almost as much panel time as Queen vs Sanji.
These are bigger asspull than Nami getting Zeus -
Sanji getting blue flame and exoskeleton
Zoro getting magical sword and AdvCOC
Robin getting new form.
Nami power up got four years build up. Zeus even get his own character arc. You can't call it asspull power up.
You just want her to become boring and bland character. Whole one piece is filled with these characters who are there just to look cool and badass.
Powerscalers are ruining one piece. They can only see worth in character if they are stronger. Hope Nami never gets observation or armental haki.
Oda already hinted at COC , so it's cool.
The whole reason was to show that Luffy needs Nami to survive in sea. Of course people will take it in wrong way.
Of course it was much better to kill them to show , how much navigation is needed but it's shounen.
Only people who say that Navigation has not been important in Post-timeskip are people who don't read manga they just follow one piece..
1/3 of whole cake arc is Nami navigating against big mom and Big mom pirates.
In dressrosa arc , they manage to escape big mom pirates because of Nami skills
It took Nami one day to reach Zou from dressrosa.
It took Luffy and others 10 days to reach Zou from dressrosa.
It took Big mom pirates 8 days to reach Zou from dressrosa.
Conclusion- Nami is 8 times faster than normal navigator...
Not even as relevant as Nami.
One piece panel time till ch 1067
I willl just make a post about it Nami was best character of wano...
false. She had many amazing character moment and it was much better than Sanji one.
Sanji whole character arc was cringe.
Her fight was third highest in panel time after Kaido vs Luffy and Zoro vs King. Almost as much panel time as Queen vs Sanji.
These are bigger asspull than Nami getting Zeus -
Sanji getting blue flame and exoskeleton
Zoro getting magical sword and AdvCOC
Robin getting new form.
Nami power up got four years build up. Zeus even get his own character arc. You can't call it asspull power up.
You just want her to become boring and bland character. Whole one piece is filled with these characters who are there just to look cool and badass.
Powerscalers are ruining one piece. They can only see worth in character if they are stronger. Hope Nami never gets observation or armental haki.
Oda already hinted at COC , so it's cool.
The whole reason was to show that Luffy needs Nami to survive in sea. Of course people will take it in wrong way.
Of course it was much better to kill them to show , how much navigation is needed but it's shounen.
Only people who say that Navigation has not been important in Post-timeskip are people who don't read manga they just follow one piece..
1/3 of whole cake arc is Nami navigating against big mom and Big mom pirates.
In dressrosa arc , they manage to escape big mom pirates because of Nami skills
It took Nami one day to reach Zou from dressrosa.
It took Luffy and others 10 days to reach Zou from dressrosa.
It took Big mom pirates 8 days to reach Zou from dressrosa.
Conclusion- Nami is 8 times faster than normal navigator...
Not even as relevant as Nami.
One piece panel time till ch 1067
false. She had many amazing character moment and it was much better than Sanji one.
Sanji whole character arc was cringe.
Her fight was third highest in panel time after Kaido vs Luffy and Zoro vs King. Almost as much panel time as Queen vs Sanji.
These are bigger asspull than Nami getting Zeus -
Sanji getting blue flame and exoskeleton
Zoro getting magical sword and AdvCOC
Robin getting new form.
Nami power up got four years build up. Zeus even get his own character arc. You can't call it asspull power up.
You just want her to become boring and bland character. Whole one piece is filled with these characters who are there just to look cool and badass.
Powerscalers are ruining one piece. They can only see worth in character if they are stronger. Hope Nami never gets observation or armental haki.
Oda already hinted at COC , so it's cool.
The whole reason was to show that Luffy needs Nami to survive in sea. Of course people will take it in wrong way.
Of course it was much better to kill them to show , how much navigation is needed but it's shounen.
Only people who say that Navigation has not been important in Post-timeskip are people who don't read manga they just follow one piece..
1/3 of whole cake arc is Nami navigating against big mom and Big mom pirates.
In dressrosa arc , they manage to escape big mom pirates because of Nami skills
It took Nami one day to reach Zou from dressrosa.
It took Luffy and others 10 days to reach Zou from dressrosa.
It took Big mom pirates 8 days to reach Zou from dressrosa.
Conclusion- Nami is 8 times faster than normal navigator...
Not even as relevant as Nami.
One piece panel time till ch 1067
I willl just make a post about it Nami was best character of wano...
false. She had many amazing character moment and it was much better than Sanji one.
Sanji whole character arc was cringe.
Her fight was third highest in panel time after Kaido vs Luffy and Zoro vs King. Almost as much panel time as Queen vs Sanji.
These are bigger asspull than Nami getting Zeus -
Sanji getting blue flame and exoskeleton
Zoro getting magical sword and AdvCOC
Robin getting new form.
Nami power up got four years build up. Zeus even get his own character arc. You can't call it asspull power up.
You just want her to become boring and bland character. Whole one piece is filled with these characters who are there just to look cool and badass.
Powerscalers are ruining one piece. They can only see worth in character if they are stronger. Hope Nami never gets observation or armental haki.
Oda already hinted at COC , so it's cool.
The whole reason was to show that Luffy needs Nami to survive in sea. Of course people will take it in wrong way.
Of course it was much better to kill them to show , how much navigation is needed but it's shounen.
Only people who say that Navigation has not been important in Post-timeskip are people who don't read manga they just follow one piece..
1/3 of whole cake arc is Nami navigating against big mom and Big mom pirates.
In dressrosa arc , they manage to escape big mom pirates because of Nami skills
It took Nami one day to reach Zou from dressrosa.
It took Luffy and others 10 days to reach Zou from dressrosa.
It took Big mom pirates 8 days to reach Zou from dressrosa.
Conclusion- Nami is 8 times faster than normal navigator...
Not even as relevant as Nami.
One piece panel time till ch 1067
false. She had many amazing character moment and it was much better than Sanji one.
Sanji whole character arc was cringe.
Her fight was third highest in panel time after Kaido vs Luffy and Zoro vs King. Almost as much panel time as Queen vs Sanji.
These are bigger asspull than Nami getting Zeus -
Sanji getting blue flame and exoskeleton
Zoro getting magical sword and AdvCOC
Robin getting new form.
Nami power up got four years build up. Zeus even get his own character arc. You can't call it asspull power up.
You just want her to become boring and bland character. Whole one piece is filled with these characters who are there just to look cool and badass.
Powerscalers are ruining one piece. They can only see worth in character if they are stronger. Hope Nami never gets observation or armental haki.
Oda already hinted at COC , so it's cool.
The whole reason was to show that Luffy needs Nami to survive in sea. Of course people will take it in wrong way.
Of course it was much better to kill them to show , how much navigation is needed but it's shounen.
Only people who say that Navigation has not been important in Post-timeskip are people who don't read manga they just follow one piece..
1/3 of whole cake arc is Nami navigating against big mom and Big mom pirates.
In dressrosa arc , they manage to escape big mom pirates because of Nami skills
It took Nami one day to reach Zou from dressrosa.
It took Luffy and others 10 days to reach Zou from dressrosa.
It took Big mom pirates 8 days to reach Zou from dressrosa.
Conclusion- Nami is 8 times faster than normal navigator...
Not even as relevant as Nami.
One piece panel time till ch 1067
no nami hate is allowed
Nami is so fucking irrelevant that Gambias grandma could navigate the barto crew just fine in the nw, she is just the main tits of the show to sell merch
-Fighting power? Fodder
-Job relevancy? BM-tier, only good on paper, sucks by actual showings
-character? There's none, just you generic weak heroine with a strong heart who
Sanji on the other hand is also a walking catastrophe, but at least he has some relevancy despite being fucking shit
-Fighting power? Fodder
-Job relevancy? BM-tier, only good on paper, sucks by actual showings
-character? There's none, just you generic weak heroine with a strong heart who
Sanji on the other hand is also a walking catastrophe, but at least he has some relevancy despite being fucking shit