General & Others Who is more important to story? YONKO VS ADMIRAL

[TheAncientCenturion]

How do the admirals who have been less than. background characters that are lap dogs have more plot relevance? They're all likely going to be off paneled.

Akainu, who Sabo and Luffy have a grudge against (more so than against Blackbeard) is going to get off paneled?
Aokiji, introduced early into the NW and brought up a few times as a suspicious figure, isn't going to do anything?
Fujitora, who's been a strong opponent of Sakazuki and abolished the warlords, will get off paneled?

Completely bogus response Rossie. The World Gov. is the final opponent, and these guys will all be tied to it. Meanwhile someone like Linlin or Kaido will be defeated long before and are just obstacles in Luffy's way to being pirate king.

 

[Waldo]

Easily both are just as important both factions were already stated to need to be defeated to become PK it’s just the Yonkou are the ones being defeated now but the Admirals were the reason Luffy knew he wasn’t ready yet and had to start training... Shanks inspired Luffy sure but Who killed Luffys Brother?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Lol that’s cute.

Big Mom was the main antagonist of an entire arc, the secondary antagonist of Wano, and a minor antagonist in FMI, DR, and Zou.

She wasn't a minor antagonist in either Zou or DR. That's like saying Kaido was a minor antagonist in Zou just because Sheepshead was there. Headlining an arc doesn't make you more relevant than other EoS characters. Boa and Magellen did that and neither will have Akainu or Aokiji's importance.

Shichibukai are borderline irrelevant at this point in the story, except for Mihawk, so abolishing then isn’t really that important. Fujitora’s role in the story is objectively less important than BM’s.

So irrelevant that Law shit his pants and Kidd turned green with envy when Jinbe joined Luffy? Each member of the Shichibukai will have an important part of the story. Even Moriah, the worst of them, has been dredged up recently.

Also Shanks will not be completely off paneled. Worse case scenario it plays out like Ace vs BB

So mostly off paneled.

 

[Waldo]

Most Important

• Admiral
  • Akainu
  • Aokiji
• Emperor
  • Whitebeard
  • Blackbeard
  • Shanks

Least Important

• Admiral
  • Kizaru
  • Ryokugyu
  • Fujitora
• Emperor
  • Kaido
  • Big Mom

How Is Fuji not included tho he literally was the main reason why one of the 3 great powers is gone today that’s been in the story since Chapter 70+

 

[Shiroyru]

How Is Fuji not included tho he literally was the main reason why one of the 3 great powers is gone today that’s been in the story since Chapter 70+

Warlords are a joke compared to the other great powers. They aren’t even capable of beating 1 Yonko crew.

 

[Albino 👑]

Unlike the yonko theres s hign ass chance most if not all admiral with be taken out by side characters

 

[Finalbeta]

Definitely Admirals

They are going down at EoS and all yonko are supposed to go down before Sakazuki will do, except for Teach who is obviously an exception to the rule

But Akainu also got more plot relevance even emotional

 

[Shiroyru]

Definitely Admirals

They are going down at EoS and all yonko are supposed to go down before Sakazuki will do, except for Teach who is obviously an exception to the rule

But Akainu also got more plot relevance even emotional

Lol who cares if Ryokugyu gets taken down at EoS by Sanji

 

[L o g i a]

I’d hope that the Admirals can be more relevant than dead characters that aren’t even in the arc

I'm not sure what you're getting at or if you disagree with me

But the Yonko are arc/saga/story defining villains - the Admirals are arc defining at most right now. Plus, it can be argued they're anti-heros, not villains, so there's that lack of animosity (excluding Sakazuki) to consider as well

When Luffy topples the Yonko and becomes Pirate King, he will have to deal with the Admirals instead of the Yonko as he has to now

 

[Garp the Fist]

Fujitora's plot relevance took a massive nosedive when his character motivation was accomplished off panel.

Aside from Sakazuki, who's a special case as Fleet Admiral who has already played a massive role in the plot by killing Ace, I don't find the "Admirals are EoS" opponents particularly convincing for any of them. Even if that is the case, all they really are is glorified versions of Mr 1 and 2, Kaku and Jabra etc. Don't see how that makes them more important than Kaido and Big Mom, who've been the overarching villains for every arc since the timeskip. The only real argument for an Admiral to overcome a Yonko plotwise would be if they became WSS and were Zoro's final fight, and that's a long shot.

 

[Shiroyru]

Akainu, who Sabo and Luffy have a grudge against (more so than against Blackbeard) is going to get off paneled?
Aokiji, introduced early into the NW and brought up a few times as a suspicious figure, isn't going to do anything?
Fujitora, who's been a strong opponent of Sakazuki and abolished the warlords, will get off paneled?

Completely bogus response Rossie. The World Gov. is the final opponent, and these guys will all be tied to it. Meanwhile someone like Linlin or Kaido will be defeated long before and are just obstacles in Luffy's way to being pirate king.

Lol what’s Aokiji gonna do that’s more important than Kaido being the catalyst for a war that will make Marineford “look cute”

 

[OmegaPsyche]

Admirals are more important, there's a reason why they don't get defeated

 

[Finalbeta]

Admirals are more important, there's a reason they don't get defeated

I share the same ideology

Plot relevance is about how long one stays into the plot in such cases when opponents are technically all the same

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

It's not debatable. One Piece is a story of Luffy fighting yonkos.

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

hmmm...
I say Yonko are more important for story than normal admirals or retired ones

But Fleet admiral Akainu is equally important to Yonko in terms of story importance

And lastly, WG as a whole organization including (Imu/Gorosei) represent 800+ years as power reign over the world! And they are the HIGHEST of importance to the story
Higher than Both Yonko and Admirals who were considered but the outward face of WG by one of Gorosei

 

[Waldo]

Warlords are a joke compared to the other great powers. They aren’t even capable of beating 1 Yonko crew.

They were still relevant within the story and still are Doffy In fact is known has the best Villain by majority of the community so saying they aren’t is just lying to urself

 

[Jo_Ndule]

Admirals or Mihawk can be Zoro opponents and still not be more important than Yonko

Admirals are even WH pets, Imu and Gorosei are looking like the villains Luffy will take down
while Admirals get beaten by Sabo etc...

Kaido & BM have been the relevant top tiers since FI and PH, their defeat will impact the world way bigger than even WB!
The fact Kaido defeat is even prophesied, linked to Joyboy lol
Shanks and Teach are also very important, Teach will even more important than Rocks duo at EoS

The only admiral that is relevant and more important as or near Yonko is Akainu

 

[ranady]

Endgame wise, admirals.
For plot building to the endgame, it would be yonko, especially shanks and BB.
So i would say overall yonko is a little more important than admirals.

 

[Bogard]

Oda already replied to this

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With it being mentioned the end of story never changed since the beginning

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"The story's end hasn't changed once since the beginning. The problem is that I haven't been able to really digest all the things that are happening along the way toward the end." Inoue Takehiko Pia (2009) [Translated by gottsuiiyan]

On the other hand, the marines aren't even the main antagonists of the government factions, but more like the outward face

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With Ds and Celestial Dragons having a far deeper story comparatively to one another

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And Blackbeard(a yonko in rise) already portrayed in antagonism comparatively to the head of World Government(Imu) with Luffy, ancient weapon(s)

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[King7]

I guess Yonko are more important . but Admirals will have roles against strong characters in end of series , since they are World Government's strongest individuals
( outside IM )

IMO Strawhats and GrandFleet will face against Marines complete with SSG . Akainu and Kizaru will be present , Ryokugyu maybe . Marine HQ is the gate to Mariejois , so you want to beat IM ? you gotta beat Marines

Oda implied that Ryokugyu is actually against WG but does that mean he won't buckler for specifically the Marines ? not necessarily

Fujitora will have some roles too with his super destructive DF ( could rival Gura Gura no Mi if Oda wanted to )

i expect Aokiji will return to become FA , Fujitora will refuse promotion ( though he also looks fitting to become FA )

if Aokiji does betray Teach , not sure if he will get hypetooled too , since Teach already has Shanks in the bag .