Future Events Who is more likely to have CoC, Koby or Sanji?

[Peroroncino]

Name one CoC user that would be content with serving Alvida for the rest of their lives

Name one CoC user that has bent the knee to someone that doesn’t have CoC

Since this is the game you wanna play

Post automatically merged: Apr 7, 2023

This is also funny because Zeff literally tells Sanji he has the same “spear of grit” as Luffy and Zoro but every single time we have this conversation you ignore it

If you don’t want Sanji to unlock CoC, fine

Just don’t ignore every single piece of evidence that points in the opposite direction

and wtf does spear of grit even mean? Zoro had hints since east blue with people saying he should be the captain and that he doesnt follow orders, and yet no such thing was ever given to sanji.
And where does kneeling to a non user as ever said to be something a coc user wouldn't do?
In fact coc users are shown to kneel all the time roger did it luffy did it and Zoro did it.
You just gave Koby another point

 

[grey matter]

Neither would have conqueror's haki

 

[Lion of Olympus]

Koby obviously has a much higher chance than Sanji as the future leader of the marines

Some of the people here speaking on Sanji make me laugh though

The same people that shit on Sanji for telling Zoro to give up on his dream in the face of death are perfectly fine with Koby getting bitched by Alvida of all people for years

Koby at 16 couldn’t even muster up the courage to leave

Compare that to Sanji who bucked Zeff and his whole crew alone as a kid while everyone else stood back and watched

Koby has grown a lot and definitely feels like he’s worthy of CoC now but if you’re gonna bring up moments from the past for Sanji we gotta do the same for Koby

Also, even before that Sanji was also willing to fight Judge just to escape from him

 

[GoldDiamond]

the guy
destiny linked to luffy

 

[Welkin]

and wtf does spear of grit even mean? Zoro had hints since east blue with people saying he should be the captain and that he doesnt follow orders, and yet no such thing was ever given to sanji.
And where does kneeling to a non user as ever said to be something a coc user wouldn't do?
In fact coc users are shown to kneel all the time roger did it luffy did it and Zoro did it.
You just gave Koby another point

That’s literally… not what I meant at all

When I say kneel I mean serve under

Have you not noticed the running pattern

Rayleigh fell under Roger

Oden fell under Whitebeard then fell under Roger (both of his captains had CoC)

Zoro fell under Luffy

Shanks fell under Roger

Beckman (who most likely has CoC) fell under Shanks

Ace fell under Whitebeard

Yamato was under Kaido (if you wanna count that but that’s shaky cause she was born into it) and wanted to join Luffy

Katakuri fell under Big Mom

Rocks had multiple CoC users under him. How else do you think he reined them in?

Are you starting to see the pattern?

When Baroque Works agents tried to recruit Zoro what did he say?

“I’ll only join if I get to be the leader”

 

[Peroroncino]

That’s literally… not what I meant at all

When I say kneel I mean serve under

Have you not noticed the running pattern

Rayleigh fell under Roger

Oden fell under Whitebeard then fell under Roger (both of his captains had CoC)

Zoro fell under Luffy

Shanks fell under Roger

Beckman (who most likely has CoC) fell under Shanks

Ace fell under Whitebeard

Yamato was under Kaido (if you wanna count that but that’s shaky cause she was born into it) and wanted to join Luffy

Katakuri fell under Big Mom

Rocks had multiple CoC users under him. How else do you think he reined them in?

Are you starting to see the pattern?

When Baroque Works agents tried to recruit Zoro what did he say?

“I’ll only join if I get to be the leader”

And rayleigh zoro and rocks are proof coc users can serve under someone i can see Koby go either way but that future of the marines line made me think will most likely have it

 

[Welkin]

And rayleigh zoro and rocks are proof coc users can serve under someone i can see Koby go either way but that future of the marines line made me think will most likely have it

And I agree with this

I always thought it was 50/50 for Koby because of his iffy past but amazing growth

Now that it’s clear that he’s the future of the Marines, the “Hero” of the current generation, and the next Garp it’s pretty obvious that he’s gonna get CoC

He’s gonna break the mold

That’s why I voted for him in the poll

He has a higher chance than Sanji for sure but I don’t think Sanji has a 0% chance either

I’d say it’s like 90-95% for Koby after this chapter and 10-20% for Sanji

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Sanji got faster AFTER THE GENES ACTIVATED… So his speed is also Daddy genes

He also obtained "the power to disappear" but be relieved, this is something based on speed.

"Based on speed", no mention of Exoskeleton or science whatsoever.

The fact that Oda even includes "But be relieved" is basically Oda telling OP readers that, "Oh don't worry, his power doesn't come from science."

To destroys your argument even more, Sanji already show this kind of speed before the so called "Daddy's genes" coming in.

Hell Oda even said his fire is Daddy genes too

R: I have a question, Sanji’s eyebrow turned in the opposite direction in chapter 1031 of volume 102, but in chapter 1044 of volume 103 it goes back to normal. How did that happened?
O: you have keen eyes, indeed the eyebrow was changing in those chapters. It’ll take us back to WCI but, Sanji’s siblings all have their lineage factors altered and thus are born with superhuman qualities and tough skin known as “exoskeleton”. However, due to the effort of his mother, Sanji was born as a normal human being. Let’s take a look at the siblings’ eyebrows.
Like you see in Yonji’s image, their eyebrow are all opposite of Sanji’s and curved like 66. “But then, the raid suit acted as a trigger that discover the power of science inside Sanji!!” That was the gist of the fight. Even before that Sanji has this fascinating and unnatural resistance to flame. Let’s continue to watch over him

"Even before that Sanji has this fascinating and unnatural resistance to flame. Let's continue to watch over him."

"Even before that Sanji has this fascinating and unnatural resistance to flame. Let's continue to watch over him."

"Even before that Sanji has this fascinating and unnatural resistance to flame. Let's continue to watch over him."

"Even before that Sanji has this fascinating and unnatural resistance to flame. Let's continue to watch over him."

"Even before that Sanji has this fascinating and unnatural resistance to flame. Let's continue to watch over him."

"Even before that Sanji has this fascinating and unnatural resistance to flame. Let's continue to watch over him."

"Even before that Sanji has this fascinating and unnatural resistance to flame. Let's continue to watch over him."

"Even before that Sanji has this fascinating and unnatural resistance to flame. Let's continue to watch over him."

How you and Sanji haters read Oda's statements about Sanji's powers:

But don't worry, it's just a matter of time when Sanji haters like you gonna go extinct the moment Sanji unlocks CoC.:cheers:

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Based on speed", no mention of Exoskeleton or science whatsoever.

Sanji got faster AFTER THE GENES activated.

I don’t know why you think the Oven thing counts. The only people who didn’t see Sanji were Pound and that fat chick… Oven got sneak attack and knocked away before he could see what happened

are you saying Literal fodder like Pound not being able to see See Sanji moving is the same feat as Sanji vs queen

what about Whiskey Peak when 100 fodder looking directly at Zoro also failed to see him move? Is that also the same feat as Sanji vs Queen?

anyway, that’s unfair I guess, Zoro has always been faster than Sanji

point remains, Queen not seeing Sanji >>>>>>> Fodder Not seeing Sanji… The same way Kaido getting blitzed by Zoro >>>>>>>> Queen getting blitzed by Sanji

It seems you don’t understand both simple in world feat scaling… And you understand what Oda’s own words are… Oda is saying Sanji’s fire powers come from his daddy too… he says “Sanji had an unnatural fire resistance” as a way to foreshadow how his fire powers would increase when his genes activated… get it? His fire powers before the gene activation were limited because his genes were limited… Once activated the full extent of Daddy’s powers came to be

Honestly you Sanji fans should PRAY Sanji gets CoC since that’s the one thing we know for sure Judge wasn’t handing out in a bottles of his jizz

please I repeat

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Sanji got faster AFTER THE GENES activated.

I don’t know why you think the Oven thing counts. The only people who didn’t see Sanji were Pound and that fat chick… Oven got sneak attack and knocked away before he could see what happened

are you saying Literal fodder like Pound not being able to see See Sanji moving is the same feat as Sanji vs queen

what about Whiskey Peak when 100 fodder looking directly at Zoro also failed to see him move? Is that also the same feat as Sanji vs Queen?

anyway, that’s unfair I guess, Zoro has always been faster than Sanji

point remains, Queen not seeing Sanji >>>>>>> Fodder Not seeing Sanji… The same way Kaido getting blitzed by Zoro >>>>>>>> Queen getting blitzed by Sanji

It seems you don’t understand both simple in world feat scaling… And you understand what Oda’s own words are… Oda is saying Sanji’s fire powers come from his daddy too… he says “Sanji had an unnatural fire resistance” as a way to foreshadow how his fire powers would increase when his genes activated… get it? His fire powers before the gene activation were limited because his genes were limited… Once activated the full extent of Daddy’s powers came to be

Honestly you Sanji fans should PRAY Sanji gets CoC since that’s the one thing we know for sure Judge wasn’t handing out in a bottles of his jizz

please I repeat

If Sanji gets CoC, you better delete your account.

 

[Marco]

If Sanji gets CoC, you better delete your account.

Better people stay and live with the L

 

[grey matter]

And I agree with this

I always thought it was 50/50 for Koby because of his iffy past but amazing growth

Now that it’s clear that he’s the future of the Marines, the “Hero” of the current generation, and the next Garp it’s pretty obvious that he’s gonna get CoC

He’s gonna break the mold

That’s why I voted for him in the poll

He has a higher chance than Sanji for sure but I don’t think Sanji has a 0% chance either

I’d say it’s like 90-95% for Koby after this chapter and 10-20% for Sanji

Yeah, the narrative support is there.

But Coby was too much of a wimp, the character doesn't suit being a conqueror.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Better people stay and live with the L

Okay fine. Scratch what I said about deleting the account. People deleting their accounts is too much of a mercy.

It's better for them to be a laughing stock of the community and gets humiliated in public works better for me anyway.

And if they deleted their accounts, I wouldn't have a shot to clown at them lol.

 

[Hueconite]

People are so desperate to see sanji with conq that they literally spit headcanon

Sanji didn't choose the voice of science stop with this bullshit and reread chapter 1031... the guy literally says he's not going to become the soldier of science but some retards keep saying this nonsense...

You literally have no argument that he won't have coc

 

[Monkey D Theories]

This was Koby’s reaction to Luffy saying he’ll become the Pirate King anyway lol

People always forget this chapter ends with Koby realizing that he'd rather die than be a bitch and subsequently he's never been a coward again.

See:

• deciding to call Alvida ugly, knowing she will kill him
• standing in front of the cannon to save helmeppo
• resolving to be an admiral and one day capture Luffy
• resolving to kill Luffy in marineford
• standing up to Akainu, knowing it would be his death

 

[Senfret]

Both

 

[Hueconite]

He also obtained "the power to disappear" but be relieved, this is something based on speed.

"Based on speed", no mention of Exoskeleton or science whatsoever.

The fact that Oda even includes "But be relieved" is basically Oda telling OP readers that, "Oh don't worry, his power doesn't come from science."

To destroys your argument even more, Sanji already show this kind of speed before the so called "Daddy's genes" coming in.

"Even before that Sanji has this fascinating and unnatural resistance to flame. Let's continue to watch over him."

"Even before that Sanji has this fascinating and unnatural resistance to flame. Let's continue to watch over him."

"Even before that Sanji has this fascinating and unnatural resistance to flame. Let's continue to watch over him."

"Even before that Sanji has this fascinating and unnatural resistance to flame. Let's continue to watch over him."

"Even before that Sanji has this fascinating and unnatural resistance to flame. Let's continue to watch over him."

"Even before that Sanji has this fascinating and unnatural resistance to flame. Let's continue to watch over him."

"Even before that Sanji has this fascinating and unnatural resistance to flame. Let's continue to watch over him."

"Even before that Sanji has this fascinating and unnatural resistance to flame. Let's continue to watch over him."

How you and Sanji haters read Oda's statements about Sanji's powers:

But don't worry, it's just a matter of time when Sanji haters like you gonna go extinct the moment Sanji unlocks CoC.:à la

 

[Kishido]

Koby

 

[Welkin]

People always forget this chapter ends with Koby realizing that he'd rather die than be a bitch and subsequently he's never been a coward again.

See:

• deciding to call Alvida ugly, knowing she will kill him
• standing in front of the cannon to save helmeppo
• resolving to be an admiral and one day capture Luffy
• resolving to kill Luffy in marineford
• standing up to Akainu, knowing it would be his death

Yeah he grew

So we can acknowledge that people are allowed to grow and still have conquerors right?

 

[Marco]

People are so desperate to see sanji with conq that they literally spit headcanon

Sanji didn't choose the voice of science stop with this bullshit and reread chapter 1031... the guy literally says he's not going to become the soldier of science but some retards keep saying this nonsense...

You literally have no argument that he won't have coc

Should have seen what most Simpji fans were saying before Zoro got CoC

Despite all the hints you would see many of them saying:

It's too late for CoC now
He would have shown it already if he were to get it
It'll take away from Luffy's greatness/uniqueness
He has his own thing, aura intidimation. That's cooler and unique to him
He's a subordinate
If a SH will get it, it'll be Usopp because he lied about it

Might have missed few other BS excuses. But post ch 1010 (ch 1033 for the ones who were coping until then), overnight it felt as if majority of Simpji fans suddenly read the real OP and they said Sanji will get it too