Controversial Who is the biggest hater/downplayer of every character?

[soupongo]

He is not evil and he hates his mother. He is just a slave of his own mother

Not really, he is mostly loyal to her. At the wedding, he was doing his best to prevent an assassination attempt

 

[Etzel Andergast]

Not really, he is mostly loyal to her. At the wedding, he was doing his best to prevent an assassination attempt

But he let luffy win the fight when he saw potential in him to defeat big mom in the future

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

But he let luffy win the fight when he saw potential in him to defeat big mom in the future

Yeah this was a dumb ass 180 on Oda's part

 

[soupongo]

But he let luffy win the fight when he saw potential in him to defeat big mom in the future

A villain changing their mind after meeting the MC doesn't mean they're not a villain lol. Otherwise, Naruto has no villains

 

[Uncle Van]

Respect the mochi man

I would if he was a better character. That honor shit came outta nowhere with no build up.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

A villain changing their mind after meeting the MC doesn't mean they're not a villain lol. Otherwise, Naruto has no villains

But naruto villains did evil things. Katakuri did nothing

 

[Ven437]

Because in this case, Tejas slandered all of them equally, and did it far more and far worse than anybody I've ever seen.
Again, do y'all not remember when he kept spamming that panel of Kizaru fighting Rakuyo and saying Kizaru = Rakuyo? That was some of the nastiest work I've ever seen when it comes to slandering a fictional character's power level.
And that's why I laughed when MarineHQ proposed that he's the biggest Kizaru hater. He has NEVER reached that level of hate towards Kizaru, and neither has anyone else here.
Tejas was the king of Admiral slander, his crown is too heavy for y'all to wear.

That doesn’t make any sense. I’ve seen posters here make threads of Greenbull being a Kingbaum victim

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/kingbaum-vs-aramaki.29551/

Or have we forgotten the infamous Greencow of the White Blade thread?

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...bout-greencow-of-the-white-blade.49706/page-2

No Admiral in a vacuum gets clowned more than GB and some actually do it extremely creatively too. Even Fujitora whose feats are subpar doesnt get nearly as much shit as GB does as a whole

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

But naruto villains did evil things. Katakuri did nothing

Katakuri killed those random bakers for looking at his mouth

 

[soupongo]

But naruto villains did evil things. Katakuri did nothing

You don't think planning a wedding that is secretly an assassination attempt is evil?

 

[Etzel Andergast]

Katakuri killed those random bakers for looking at his mouth

They were gossipers

 

[Sir Yasheen]

He's made him stronger than a few villains, for example:
Buggy
Arlong
Lucci
Moria
Hody Jones
Caesar
And I'd include Kata, but he seemed to come out of WCI equal to Kata, not above him.

Tbh even Moriah and Lucci are questionable since Luffy used nightmare Luffy on Moriah and was completely paralyzed after Lucci.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

That doesn’t make any sense. I’ve seen posters here make threads of Greenbull being a Kingbaum victim

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/kingbaum-vs-aramaki.29551/

Or have we forgotten the infamous Greencow of the White Blade thread?

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...bout-greencow-of-the-white-blade.49706/page-2

No Admiral in a vacuum gets clowned more than GB and some actually do it extremely creatively too. Even Fujitora whose feats are subpar doesnt get nearly as much shit as GB does as a whole

Seatonnes didn't commit to that though, it was a very clear joke lmao
Meanwhile Tejas seemed to legitimately believe that Rakuyo is equal to Kizaru, and he said it CONSTANTLY
That's the thing, in order for me to add someone to the list I gotta see them slandering a character consistently.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

Tbh even Moriah and Lucci are questionable since Luffy used nightmare Luffy on Moriah and was completely paralyzed after Lucci.

Because moriah needed oars powers? Without oars luffy wouldn't need use nightmere

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Because moriah needed oars powers? Without oars luffy wouldn't need use nightmere

Luffy attacked Moriah directly with nightmare Luffy not oars. Moriah took a lot of damage from that, which is why it’s questionable if Luffy can do it without nightmare.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

There's no issues in Luffy v Lucci

Luffy didnt get any help, Oda didnt nerf Lucci, etc

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Tbh even Moriah and Lucci are questionable since Luffy used nightmare Luffy on Moriah and was completely paralyzed after Lucci.

That's true, but one of them was going to straight up die if not for the help of his coworkers, while Luffy was simply paralyzed.
That's clear superiority, it's just that it was an extreme diff battle (and honestly possibly one of the best examples of an extreme diff in fiction, imo)

They were gossipers

..That's not nearly enough to justify him killing/crippling them

 

[Rumble]

But naruto villains did evil things. Katakuri did nothing

Katakuri was the #2 in a decades-long criminal enterprise that preyed on the vulnerable, innocent or otherwise. He was party to untold theft, murder, abuse, exploitation, slavery, terror - all of it. What he did as a child doesn't count, but he shares in the culpability for every crime Big Mom committed after he was old enough to know better and walk away.

That he cared for his siblings and observed combatant's honour doesn't erase any of this. I don't think Katakuri would be so deluded to deny any of this.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

That's true, but one of them was going to straight up die if not for the help of his coworkers, while Luffy was simply paralyzed.
That's clear superiority, it's just that it was an extreme diff battle (and honestly possibly one of the best examples of an extreme diff in fiction, imo)
..That's not nearly enough to justify him killing/crippling them

Imo the main question comes from Usopp somehow giving Luffy the strength to get back up after Lucci dropped him. Could Luffy have done it without him? Maybe but it’s not guaranteed. I think Luffy and Lucci were basically dead when tho.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

Katakuri was the #2 in a decades-long criminal enterprise that preyed on the vulnerable, innocent or otherwise. He was party to untold theft, murder, abuse, exploitation, slavery, terror - all of it. What he did as a child doesn't count, but he shares in the culpability for every crime Big Mom committed after he was old enough to know better and walk away.

That he cared for his siblings and observed combatant's honour doesn't erase any of this. I don't Katakuri would be so deluded to deny any of this.

So garp is also villain because he is in navy and let celestial dragons commit a genocide in god valley and he also let the navy kill newborns and pregnant women

 

[soupongo]

So garp is also villain because he is in navy and let celestial dragons commit a genocide in god valley and he also let the navy kill newborns and pregnant women

yeah