Questions & Mysteries Who is WSM and WSC after WB and Kaido died?
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No, these titles where used just to hype those characters, they were just a device Oda used for that purpose. Now that Luffy has basically beaten the strongest creature there is no need to give that nickname to another character cause it would seem that the 2nd strongest creature has inherited the title.. and that makes 0 hype. About WB WSM title the problem is that that title also represents the strongest man alive, undisputed, as of now there is nobody worthy of it, basically the war/s we are seeing are to claim that title, the throne wars, but there is yet no winner. Luffy in the end will win but the pirate king title or whatever he aims for will obscure the WSM one.
As for guesses on who these guys should be..
Luffy gets the strongest creature since he now has the strongest zoan, proved also because he beat Kaido.
WSM.. maybe Shanks but eventually BB will best him before the end and after that Luffy will best BB. Also now there is the Im hidden card who could be the true holder of this title, maybe even while WB or even Roger where alive.
As for guesses on who these guys should be..
Luffy gets the strongest creature since he now has the strongest zoan, proved also because he beat Kaido.
WSM.. maybe Shanks but eventually BB will best him before the end and after that Luffy will best BB. Also now there is the Im hidden card who could be the true holder of this title, maybe even while WB or even Roger where alive.
It's implied in the Ace novel that Whitebeard was the WSM solely because of his devil fruit that had the power to destroy the world, so logically if anyone gained the title after his death it would be Blackbeard, but honestly, Oda doesn't care about there always being a title holder, titles are introduced in the moment for hype to a specific character, it's not something he's going to be consistent about.
Most likely not, the WSM and the WSC were used to hype the specific characters. Secondly they got these titles because of their DFs (they were top tier without the DFs too). And even though their DFs were inherited by other characters the other characters were not given the title because the other characters are just not on that level yet.
BB declared himself to be the strongest after getting WBs DF but nobody recognized him as such, the Gorosei even thought that Marco could challenge and stop him. So while the DF was a major source of them getting the titles, their individual strength and haki was also a great part of it.
Momo got Kaido's DF and he has got Oden's body genes but since he has not the individual power he is not recognized as such.
These titles are not given and earned like the WSS.
Idk if I made myself clear. WB's DF was hyped as he could destroy the world, BB declared himself the strongest after getting WB's DF. Kaido's DF was also hyped in a such a way in the GV flashback as well as BM's claim of Kaido owing her a favor because of the DF. The DF was the prize of the CDs game. See how the DFs are hyped and the worthy users of these DFs are recognized as the WSM and the WSC. BB and Momo are not worthy users of these DFs just yet and neither do they have the clout and accomplishments which are recognized as such by the public much less the readers.
WSS is completely different from the other two in this regard. People mistake WB and Roger rivalry and WB being WSM and apply the same to Mihawk and Shanks. WB was always compared to Roger and shown his equal, never above while Mihawk is compared to Shanks and explicitly shown above.
Of the people that we have currently in the series, I can somehow see maybe Fujitora getting one of the titles since he was already a monster before getting the DF before DR. His DF is pretty OP, is probably on the same level as WB's and that Fuji was already Admiral level before getting the DF. I dont think after gaining the DF, Fuji suddenly jumped tiers above like a lot of the people here theorize on power levels and increase things linearly. At the top, the DFs give you more versatility and haki is always shown superior to DF.
Roger = WB is canon fact, WB having the WSM does not put him above Roger. Anyone who says that WB and Roger fought and WB it was a draw because WB did not use his DF is just full of shit, the person is fat fucker living in a basement who never competed with another man (except in being a fat fuck). Rivalries don't have this type of shit where one party is holding back a significant part of their power. Its the same shitty train of thought that says Shanks and Mihawk had duels with their hakis turned off.
BB declared himself to be the strongest after getting WBs DF but nobody recognized him as such, the Gorosei even thought that Marco could challenge and stop him. So while the DF was a major source of them getting the titles, their individual strength and haki was also a great part of it.
Momo got Kaido's DF and he has got Oden's body genes but since he has not the individual power he is not recognized as such.
These titles are not given and earned like the WSS.
Idk if I made myself clear. WB's DF was hyped as he could destroy the world, BB declared himself the strongest after getting WB's DF. Kaido's DF was also hyped in a such a way in the GV flashback as well as BM's claim of Kaido owing her a favor because of the DF. The DF was the prize of the CDs game. See how the DFs are hyped and the worthy users of these DFs are recognized as the WSM and the WSC. BB and Momo are not worthy users of these DFs just yet and neither do they have the clout and accomplishments which are recognized as such by the public much less the readers.
WSS is completely different from the other two in this regard. People mistake WB and Roger rivalry and WB being WSM and apply the same to Mihawk and Shanks. WB was always compared to Roger and shown his equal, never above while Mihawk is compared to Shanks and explicitly shown above.
Of the people that we have currently in the series, I can somehow see maybe Fujitora getting one of the titles since he was already a monster before getting the DF before DR. His DF is pretty OP, is probably on the same level as WB's and that Fuji was already Admiral level before getting the DF. I dont think after gaining the DF, Fuji suddenly jumped tiers above like a lot of the people here theorize on power levels and increase things linearly. At the top, the DFs give you more versatility and haki is always shown superior to DF.
Roger = WB is canon fact, WB having the WSM does not put him above Roger. Anyone who says that WB and Roger fought and WB it was a draw because WB did not use his DF is just full of shit, the person is fat fucker living in a basement who never competed with another man (except in being a fat fuck). Rivalries don't have this type of shit where one party is holding back a significant part of their power. Its the same shitty train of thought that says Shanks and Mihawk had duels with their hakis turned off.
